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					<description><![CDATA[A couple of comments from CA:
- I never thought the election would succeed but knew it would throw sand in the gears, which it did.  No lockdowns,  and mask mandates only by local officials in the left big cities only.  Everyone else pretty much left alone for half a year 
- I am very conservative and well informed, but never heard of Elder before the election.  I liked what he said but felt he lacked video charisma.  
- National Republican Party stayed away from it, and recall candidates were limited on fund raising while Newsom was not.
- On the Asian vote the numbers against the recall were because of race, not politics.  There are several elected republican Asians in local, county, and in the house in SoCal, and growing in number each election.

In all, no surprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of comments from CA:<br />
&#8211; I never thought the election would succeed but knew it would throw sand in the gears, which it did.  No lockdowns,  and mask mandates only by local officials in the left big cities only.  Everyone else pretty much left alone for half a year<br />
&#8211; I am very conservative and well informed, but never heard of Elder before the election.  I liked what he said but felt he lacked video charisma.<br />
&#8211; National Republican Party stayed away from it, and recall candidates were limited on fund raising while Newsom was not.<br />
&#8211; On the Asian vote the numbers against the recall were because of race, not politics.  There are several elected republican Asians in local, county, and in the house in SoCal, and growing in number each election.</p>
<p>In all, no surprise.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; I doubt seriously that anyone not offended by Trump’s behavior had a snowball’s chance in hades of winning a general election in Maryland. &lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s a state official.  There is no need to strike stupid poses vis a vis federal officials.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> I doubt seriously that anyone not offended by Trump’s behavior had a snowball’s chance in hades of winning a general election in Maryland. </i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s a state official.  There is no need to strike stupid poses vis a vis federal officials.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In answer to a couple of comments, many Texas Hispanics (those descended from early Mexican residents of Tejas) are very different from the current majority of California Hispanics (imported relatively recently as peons). There are some old-time Hispanics in California, and recent imports in Texas, but I think the proportions are different.
At any rate, the two groups to some extent do not consider each other to be simpatico.  Bottom line is that the head-lock the Democrats used to have on this demographic is being broken, because the Hispanics are sane and the Democrats increasingly are not.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2021/09/15/national-magazine-of-texas-marvels-that-hispanic-texans-are-voting-republican-n1478962]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to a couple of comments, many Texas Hispanics (those descended from early Mexican residents of Tejas) are very different from the current majority of California Hispanics (imported relatively recently as peons). There are some old-time Hispanics in California, and recent imports in Texas, but I think the proportions are different.<br />
At any rate, the two groups to some extent do not consider each other to be simpatico.  Bottom line is that the head-lock the Democrats used to have on this demographic is being broken, because the Hispanics are sane and the Democrats increasingly are not.</p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2021/09/15/national-magazine-of-texas-marvels-that-hispanic-texans-are-voting-republican-n1478962" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2021/09/15/national-magazine-of-texas-marvels-that-hispanic-texans-are-voting-republican-n1478962</a></p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco - I doubt seriously that anyone not offended by Trump&#039;s behavior had a snowball&#039;s chance in hades of winning a general election in Maryland. If you&#039;d prefer a Democrat to Hogan, it&#039;s tough for you to criticize Republicans who couldn&#039;t stomach voting for Trump. 

To neo&#039;s point, she&#039;s right. Newsome&#039;s campaign was aimed at Elder. I even suspect that was the reason for Erwin Chemerinsky&#039;s silly argument that the recall was unconstitutional. The argument was ridiculous, but it did serve to remind people that the consequence of &quot;yes&quot; winning the recall would be Governor Elder. 

(FWIW - I don&#039;t have anything against Elder, I just don&#039;t think he&#039;s a great candidate for CA.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco &#8211; I doubt seriously that anyone not offended by Trump&#8217;s behavior had a snowball&#8217;s chance in hades of winning a general election in Maryland. If you&#8217;d prefer a Democrat to Hogan, it&#8217;s tough for you to criticize Republicans who couldn&#8217;t stomach voting for Trump. </p>
<p>To neo&#8217;s point, she&#8217;s right. Newsome&#8217;s campaign was aimed at Elder. I even suspect that was the reason for Erwin Chemerinsky&#8217;s silly argument that the recall was unconstitutional. The argument was ridiculous, but it did serve to remind people that the consequence of &#8220;yes&#8221; winning the recall would be Governor Elder. </p>
<p>(FWIW &#8211; I don&#8217;t have anything against Elder, I just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a great candidate for CA.)</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

Are you assuming that in their minds people separate the recall vote from the vote for someone to replace?  Although you are technically correct that the two are separate, they take place in the same election and I believe that one influences the other.  In other words, if people are attracted to one of the replacement candidates, they are more likely to vote to get rid of Newsom, and then vote for the replacement candidate they prefer.  If they don&#039;t like any of the replacements, they are probably more likely to keep Newsom in place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>Are you assuming that in their minds people separate the recall vote from the vote for someone to replace?  Although you are technically correct that the two are separate, they take place in the same election and I believe that one influences the other.  In other words, if people are attracted to one of the replacement candidates, they are more likely to vote to get rid of Newsom, and then vote for the replacement candidate they prefer.  If they don&#8217;t like any of the replacements, they are probably more likely to keep Newsom in place.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art Deco – Hogan caters to street level Democrats because he runs in Maryland, for pity’s sake. If he doesn’t win votes from street level Democrats, he doesn’t win. If he doesn’t win, Marylanders get whatever uber-woke idealogue the Ds put up.&lt;/i&gt;

Robert Ehrlich managed to function as Governor without making himself an antagonist of the Republican president.  As for uber-woke ideologues, the Maryland Democratic Party has nominated precisely one, who won the primary on a plurality vote after another candidate died of a heart attack in mid-campaign.  


&lt;i&gt;Let me know what you mean about the mechanics of the CA recall.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a conjoined referendum and competitive contest.  The contestants are the aspirant replacements, not Newsom, who is subject to the referendum only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art Deco – Hogan caters to street level Democrats because he runs in Maryland, for pity’s sake. If he doesn’t win votes from street level Democrats, he doesn’t win. If he doesn’t win, Marylanders get whatever uber-woke idealogue the Ds put up.</i></p>
<p>Robert Ehrlich managed to function as Governor without making himself an antagonist of the Republican president.  As for uber-woke ideologues, the Maryland Democratic Party has nominated precisely one, who won the primary on a plurality vote after another candidate died of a heart attack in mid-campaign.  </p>
<p><i>Let me know what you mean about the mechanics of the CA recall.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a conjoined referendum and competitive contest.  The contestants are the aspirant replacements, not Newsom, who is subject to the referendum only.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Newsom victory is now seen as total victory for Democrats to do whatever they want since only a sick, perverted, 1/3 of the country oppose them.&quot;


Thus hastening the inevitable backlash.  For all the attention the crazy Leftist stuff gets, what ultimately matters is that the &quot;mainstream&quot; of the Democratic party is held prisoner by economic and foreign policy thinking that is not just wrong but literally disconnected from reality.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Newsom victory is now seen as total victory for Democrats to do whatever they want since only a sick, perverted, 1/3 of the country oppose them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus hastening the inevitable backlash.  For all the attention the crazy Leftist stuff gets, what ultimately matters is that the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; of the Democratic party is held prisoner by economic and foreign policy thinking that is not just wrong but literally disconnected from reality.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 16:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco - Hogan caters to street level Democrats because he runs in Maryland, for pity&#039;s sake. If he doesn&#039;t win votes from street level Democrats, he doesn&#039;t win. If he doesn&#039;t win, Marylanders get whatever uber-woke idealogue the Ds put up.

Let me know what you mean about the mechanics of the CA recall. It looked to me as though Newsome was in trouble early when the primary issue was a referendum on his performance, and then ended up winning the state by the same margin as Biden once people realized it was becoming a binary choice between Newsome and Elder. 

I understand that there wasn&#039;t a primary so there wasn&#039;t a great way for the party to pick candidates. For a state with jungle primaries, like CA, that&#039;s just how it is though. The R team needs to find a way to get it&#039;s best candidates before the electorate one way or another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco &#8211; Hogan caters to street level Democrats because he runs in Maryland, for pity&#8217;s sake. If he doesn&#8217;t win votes from street level Democrats, he doesn&#8217;t win. If he doesn&#8217;t win, Marylanders get whatever uber-woke idealogue the Ds put up.</p>
<p>Let me know what you mean about the mechanics of the CA recall. It looked to me as though Newsome was in trouble early when the primary issue was a referendum on his performance, and then ended up winning the state by the same margin as Biden once people realized it was becoming a binary choice between Newsome and Elder. </p>
<p>I understand that there wasn&#8217;t a primary so there wasn&#8217;t a great way for the party to pick candidates. For a state with jungle primaries, like CA, that&#8217;s just how it is though. The R team needs to find a way to get it&#8217;s best candidates before the electorate one way or another.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Newsom victory is now seen as total victory for Democrats to do whatever they want since only a sick, perverted, 1/3 of the country oppose them. The quadruple down begins.

David Plouffe speaking to Joy Reid;
 
 “I think these governors, legislative leaders who have stood in the way of vaccinations, who belittled COVID, who don’t want masks in school — here’s the thing, we’re basically two-thirds of the country in support of mask mandates in schools. So again, they’re speaking to their sick, perverted one-third of the country, you know that gets injected by Fox News and Sinclair and Breitbart, all the stuff. Listen, I believe today, Joy, the only country that has a worse COVID outbreak than the United States is Mongolia. So if you can’t make something of that politically as tragic as that is, maybe you don’t deserve to be in politics. I think one thing, Newsom made this campaign about COVID.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/plouffe-republicans-speaking-to-their-sick-perverted-one-third-of-the-country-injected-by-fox-news-breitbart/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Newsom victory is now seen as total victory for Democrats to do whatever they want since only a sick, perverted, 1/3 of the country oppose them. The quadruple down begins.</p>
<p>David Plouffe speaking to Joy Reid;</p>
<p> “I think these governors, legislative leaders who have stood in the way of vaccinations, who belittled COVID, who don’t want masks in school — here’s the thing, we’re basically two-thirds of the country in support of mask mandates in schools. So again, they’re speaking to their sick, perverted one-third of the country, you know that gets injected by Fox News and Sinclair and Breitbart, all the stuff. Listen, I believe today, Joy, the only country that has a worse COVID outbreak than the United States is Mongolia. So if you can’t make something of that politically as tragic as that is, maybe you don’t deserve to be in politics. I think one thing, Newsom made this campaign about COVID.”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/plouffe-republicans-speaking-to-their-sick-perverted-one-third-of-the-country-injected-by-fox-news-breitbart/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/plouffe-republicans-speaking-to-their-sick-perverted-one-third-of-the-country-injected-by-fox-news-breitbart/</a></p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; that many moderate Democrats left too, and that they were the ones that had kept the Democratic Party in California in check to a certain degree. Their departure is part of what enabled the California Democratic Party to make its hard-left turn&lt;/i&gt;

The “purple” voters who are certain, now that they’re in Tennessee, Colorado, Texas, Idaho… that this time the same voting will produce a different outcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> that many moderate Democrats left too, and that they were the ones that had kept the Democratic Party in California in check to a certain degree. Their departure is part of what enabled the California Democratic Party to make its hard-left turn</i></p>
<p>The “purple” voters who are certain, now that they’re in Tennessee, Colorado, Texas, Idaho… that this time the same voting will produce a different outcome.</p>
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