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		By: Molly+Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly+Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Dave @11:03.  Eliminate the control group.*
When my vaxxed friends and family say; &#039;Being vaxxed will lower the severity of the disease if you have a breakthrough case.&#039; All I can say is; &#039;Who told you that?  That nice man who was shooting at you?&#039;
*Did 15 years on the birth control pill cause my breast cancer?  No way to know.  Tens of millions of women taking a myriad of different brands and formulations.  
No control group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Dave @11:03.  Eliminate the control group.*<br />
When my vaxxed friends and family say; &#8216;Being vaxxed will lower the severity of the disease if you have a breakthrough case.&#8217; All I can say is; &#8216;Who told you that?  That nice man who was shooting at you?&#8217;<br />
*Did 15 years on the birth control pill cause my breast cancer?  No way to know.  Tens of millions of women taking a myriad of different brands and formulations.<br />
No control group.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NewYorkCentral and Bryan L. make great points.

My feeling is that there are three main motivations for the political vaccine push.  1) I think NIH, NIAID and other political types have connections to Pfizer and they are fattening the corp. bottom line.

2) The vast majority of these political elites hop on a commercial plane (OK maybe they are semi-elites) a several times a month.  &lt;b&gt;They&lt;/b&gt; don&#039;t want to get infected by some unvaccinated bubba or his kid from fly-over country flying in coach.

The point from NYCentral is correct.  They are telling the masses to vaccinate because it is a moral good for the whole community, but in reality the ones doing the coercion are just looking out for themselves.  That is why they don&#039;t really care about serious vaccine side effects with children.

3)  Bryan&#039;s point.  It&#039;s divisive political class warfare.  Elections can be won this way.  I expect Gavin Newsome to win his no-on-recall effort, not because he isn&#039;t an horrible governor, but because they made it all about stopping those evil Republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NewYorkCentral and Bryan L. make great points.</p>
<p>My feeling is that there are three main motivations for the political vaccine push.  1) I think NIH, NIAID and other political types have connections to Pfizer and they are fattening the corp. bottom line.</p>
<p>2) The vast majority of these political elites hop on a commercial plane (OK maybe they are semi-elites) a several times a month.  <b>They</b> don&#8217;t want to get infected by some unvaccinated bubba or his kid from fly-over country flying in coach.</p>
<p>The point from NYCentral is correct.  They are telling the masses to vaccinate because it is a moral good for the whole community, but in reality the ones doing the coercion are just looking out for themselves.  That is why they don&#8217;t really care about serious vaccine side effects with children.</p>
<p>3)  Bryan&#8217;s point.  It&#8217;s divisive political class warfare.  Elections can be won this way.  I expect Gavin Newsome to win his no-on-recall effort, not because he isn&#8217;t an horrible governor, but because they made it all about stopping those evil Republicans.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As others have pointed out, the obvious and inescapable result of refusing to medically treat the unvaccinated is at minimum onerous lawsuits and at maximum murderous retaliation. How sheltered an existence have these people lived to not understand that?&lt;/i&gt;

Family vendettas never cross their mind.  As for the lawsuits, they expect our garbage judiciary to protect them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As others have pointed out, the obvious and inescapable result of refusing to medically treat the unvaccinated is at minimum onerous lawsuits and at maximum murderous retaliation. How sheltered an existence have these people lived to not understand that?</i></p>
<p>Family vendettas never cross their mind.  As for the lawsuits, they expect our garbage judiciary to protect them.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K,  Great point about Obamacare.

My local paper had an editorial (actually an author listed op-ed printed in the editorial column; weird) written by a school admin. and a doctor about getting everyone vaccinated.

One of their points was that we need to get the kids vaccinated down to age 12 now, and probably down to age 5 soon.  (The financial news today says that Pfizer is working on vaccinations down to age 6 months.)

I commented before about how a U.K. health authority has collected the data and done the math and claimed that boys aged 15 to 18 are much more likely to suffer heart problems from a full Pfizer vax than they are to suffer problems from unvaxxed covid.  They recommend to &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; vaccinate boys in this age range. (The Epoch Times online has an extensive section of vaccine news articles.)

Then days later, the same U.K. agency said they &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; recommend vaccination for these boys, but only one dose of the Pfizer vax.  You see, all the heart complications come after the second dose.  And obviously, from the beginning we&#039;ve known that the risk from covid is very low for teenagers.

Ooohh.  Isn&#039;t it a pity that U.S. citizens don&#039;t get the benefit of advanced medical statistics analysis and genuine understanding of the Hippocratic oath?  Do no harm.

Parents take note.  One dose only for your teen boys.  Of course, the odds are very good that the second dose won&#039;t hurt, ... if you like to roll the dice.

PS: None of the more serious heart problems resulted in death.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K,  Great point about Obamacare.</p>
<p>My local paper had an editorial (actually an author listed op-ed printed in the editorial column; weird) written by a school admin. and a doctor about getting everyone vaccinated.</p>
<p>One of their points was that we need to get the kids vaccinated down to age 12 now, and probably down to age 5 soon.  (The financial news today says that Pfizer is working on vaccinations down to age 6 months.)</p>
<p>I commented before about how a U.K. health authority has collected the data and done the math and claimed that boys aged 15 to 18 are much more likely to suffer heart problems from a full Pfizer vax than they are to suffer problems from unvaxxed covid.  They recommend to <b>not</b> vaccinate boys in this age range. (The Epoch Times online has an extensive section of vaccine news articles.)</p>
<p>Then days later, the same U.K. agency said they <b>do</b> recommend vaccination for these boys, but only one dose of the Pfizer vax.  You see, all the heart complications come after the second dose.  And obviously, from the beginning we&#8217;ve known that the risk from covid is very low for teenagers.</p>
<p>Ooohh.  Isn&#8217;t it a pity that U.S. citizens don&#8217;t get the benefit of advanced medical statistics analysis and genuine understanding of the Hippocratic oath?  Do no harm.</p>
<p>Parents take note.  One dose only for your teen boys.  Of course, the odds are very good that the second dose won&#8217;t hurt, &#8230; if you like to roll the dice.</p>
<p>PS: None of the more serious heart problems resulted in death.</p>
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		By: MBunge@mail.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I get older, I find myself more and more interesting in the underlying factors that produce problems.  Stuff like this seems to stem from too many people growing up with lives that are way, way, WAAAAAAY too soft.

As others have pointed out, the obvious and inescapable result of refusing to medically treat the unvaccinated is at minimum onerous lawsuits and at maximum murderous retaliation.  How sheltered an existence have these people lived to not understand that?

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I get older, I find myself more and more interesting in the underlying factors that produce problems.  Stuff like this seems to stem from too many people growing up with lives that are way, way, WAAAAAAY too soft.</p>
<p>As others have pointed out, the obvious and inescapable result of refusing to medically treat the unvaccinated is at minimum onerous lawsuits and at maximum murderous retaliation.  How sheltered an existence have these people lived to not understand that?</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s another indication, in case we needed one, of what the content of portside politics actually is.  It is socially-sanctioned aggression.  Full stop.  Almost nothing else to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s another indication, in case we needed one, of what the content of portside politics actually is.  It is socially-sanctioned aggression.  Full stop.  Almost nothing else to it.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first commenter mentioned the leftward shift of physicians in recent years. Much of this shift can be attributed to Obamacare which created a huge incentive for physicians to become employees rather than small business types.  The new generation are mostly employees of big corporations with employee mentality and voting  patterns.  When I began, most doctors were small business people and were used to signing the front of paychecks. The change has been profound, not just in politics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first commenter mentioned the leftward shift of physicians in recent years. Much of this shift can be attributed to Obamacare which created a huge incentive for physicians to become employees rather than small business types.  The new generation are mostly employees of big corporations with employee mentality and voting  patterns.  When I began, most doctors were small business people and were used to signing the front of paychecks. The change has been profound, not just in politics.</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry, Dave, NYCentral, et al.: Here is a lengthy (takes about half an hour to read) and detailed post regarding mass vaccination against COVID: The author&#039;s conclusion is that 

&quot;The mass vaccination hype will undoubtedly enter history as the most reckless experiment in the history of medicine. It will be cited as the unequivocal proof of how overuse or misuse of man-made antimicrobials leads to antimicrobial resistance, regardless of whether the antimicrobial is an antibiotic or an antibody administered through passive immunization or elicited via active immunization. Mass vaccination campaigns conducted in the middle of a viral pandemic will, for generations to come, become the most sobering example of the boundaries of human intervention in nature in general and of the boundaries of conventional vaccinology in particular. This irrational experiment will unambiguously highlight the clear-cut limitations of conventional vaccine approaches. It will convincingly illustrate that – unlike natural acute self-limiting infection or disease – ‘modern’ technologies alone do not suffice to develop vaccines that are capable of preventing viral transmission or immune escape.&quot;

The post is highly technical as well as long, but well worth reading:
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/the-last-post

The author is a Belgian vaccinologist who &quot;received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&#038;D as well as in late vaccine development. . . . &quot;

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, Dave, NYCentral, et al.: Here is a lengthy (takes about half an hour to read) and detailed post regarding mass vaccination against COVID: The author&#8217;s conclusion is that </p>
<p>&#8220;The mass vaccination hype will undoubtedly enter history as the most reckless experiment in the history of medicine. It will be cited as the unequivocal proof of how overuse or misuse of man-made antimicrobials leads to antimicrobial resistance, regardless of whether the antimicrobial is an antibiotic or an antibody administered through passive immunization or elicited via active immunization. Mass vaccination campaigns conducted in the middle of a viral pandemic will, for generations to come, become the most sobering example of the boundaries of human intervention in nature in general and of the boundaries of conventional vaccinology in particular. This irrational experiment will unambiguously highlight the clear-cut limitations of conventional vaccine approaches. It will convincingly illustrate that – unlike natural acute self-limiting infection or disease – ‘modern’ technologies alone do not suffice to develop vaccines that are capable of preventing viral transmission or immune escape.&#8221;</p>
<p>The post is highly technical as well as long, but well worth reading:<br />
<a href="https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/the-last-post" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/the-last-post</a></p>
<p>The author is a Belgian vaccinologist who &#8220;received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&amp;D as well as in late vaccine development. . . . &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/</a></p>
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		By: david foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 15:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave...&quot;by eliminating the unvaccinated group it effectively eliminate any possible proof that any mass health issues arise in the future could be caused by vaccine as there would be no unvaccinated group to compare to.&quot;

Well, there are other countries...as well as historical comparisons to the numbers within the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8230;&#8221;by eliminating the unvaccinated group it effectively eliminate any possible proof that any mass health issues arise in the future could be caused by vaccine as there would be no unvaccinated group to compare to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, there are other countries&#8230;as well as historical comparisons to the numbers within the US.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 15:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[O/T (or maybe not, actually):
Here&#039;s several barnyard animals that show more heroism than the entire &quot;Biden&quot; administration... (OTOH, that&#039;s not all that difficult....)
https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/hero-farm-animals-rescue-chicken-pal-from-hawk-in-wild-video/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O/T (or maybe not, actually):<br />
Here&#8217;s several barnyard animals that show more heroism than the entire &#8220;Biden&#8221; administration&#8230; (OTOH, that&#8217;s not all that difficult&#8230;.)<br />
<a href="https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/hero-farm-animals-rescue-chicken-pal-from-hawk-in-wild-video/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/hero-farm-animals-rescue-chicken-pal-from-hawk-in-wild-video/</a></p>
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