Comments on: Here’s one good thing that happened as a result of 9/11

By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup » Pirate's Cove

Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup » Pirate's Cove — Sun, 12 Sep 2021 14:02:14 +0000

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By: sonny wayz

sonny wayz — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 18:19:00 +0000

@PA+Cat;

Thanks for that link. Gotta be thinking they used up their lifetime supply of adrenaline in those 4 hours.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:40:37 +0000

@Yawrate given my penchant for history, science, etc… I had already known, but the knowing was more complicated by my wife being Indonesian – I learned and realized a lot more then… IF you look at it more nuanced (not the best word i know) you will see different functional groups of the whole… the leaders, the malcontents, the sinful earning a place they feel they could never have, the general public funding… much the same as government, military, operatives, and public paying taxes to fund the the first… which pays the others..

By: Yawrate

Yawrate — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 13:10:49 +0000

Geoffrey.

Same thing with me. I started to learn about Islam and what its more strident adherents are capable of. For instance the word Islam means submission. Specifically, submission to Allah. But (there’s always a but), what submission means in this context is submission to Muhammad’s vision of what Allah wants as found in Koran and the Hadith.

The most recent thing I’ve learned about Islam is that it likely led to what we call the dark ages of Europe. In the process of conquering the Mediterranean basin, the final chapters closed on the western Roman empire. The coastlines were abandoned in favor of well fortified castles. The great estates were left to ruin because of Muslim slavers continuous raids. Most trade from the east was cut off.

The Vandals and Goths that had earlier conquered Rome saw western civilization as good thing and saw themselves as Roman. They merely took over as the new ruling class leaving the infrastructure, laws, and trade much the same for 300 years or so. Then the Muslims showed up.

By: CV

CV — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 12:28:35 +0000

If you have AppleTV+ (free trial offer) you can see the original Broadway cast production of Come From Away. Premiered yesterday, Sept. 10. It’s a fantastic show and I can’t recommend it highly enough. Seeing it in person is even better. Somehow manages to be heartbreaking and uplifting at the same time.

By: PA+Cat

PA+Cat — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 04:13:01 +0000

For anyone who hasn’t seen it: Cleared for Chaos is a Canadian-made 45-minute documentary about the small group of ATCs at Gander, Newfoundland, who were suddenly tasked on 9/11 with landing over 200 planes bound for North America that were too far across the Atlantic to return to Europe when American airspace was suddenly closed.

You can watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqf1mSuyd9w&ab_channel=SycTech

By: Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 04:07:14 +0000

Chris B,

The article states specifically it was one of the flights the musical is based on and the couple’s story features prominently in the musical. They’ve seen it over 100 times!

By: JimNorCal

JimNorCal — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 03:11:16 +0000

Chris B, sorry. I switched topics on you.
The school’s 9/11 video is unrelated to the show in Detroit about Canadian kindness to stranded American travelers.
They are trying to stop Americans from having any feeling of anger or distrust towards Muslims. Because if only American hatred and American intolerance were suppressed the world would be calm and peaceful. This is what they believe.

By: Zaphod

Zaphod — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 01:13:19 +0000

@JimNorCal:

“Confederate General statues should be tolerated as well”

Tolerated? They should be garlanded, Sir!

By: Chris B

Chris B — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 01:09:33 +0000

@JimNorCal

All of those discussion questions about the video (if it’s a video of the musical) have no relation to the video and are stupid except the last one. I have no idea what the “Pyramid of Hate” is.

The musical was in my view mostly non-political and dealt with “the acts of kindness and compassion that occurred” among ordinary people in an extraordinary situation. I don’t think there was anything more to take from it than that.