Comments on: The Afghanistan bugout: the GOP “hawks” called this one https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:59:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574234 Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:59:23 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574234 More on the bus loads of students here:
https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/on-leaving-bagram-on-leaving-afghanistan/#comment-2574218

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574125 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:56:16 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574125 If true about Americans turned away, Donahue hangs unless he can show hard orders. Or should, anyway.

]]> By: jack https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574071 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 18:11:08 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574071 @geoffb

There is a link in comments at https://www.weaselzippers.us/ that says NYT (for what that’s worth) confirmed the tweet/story but it’s behind paywall and i can’t read it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/29/world/taliban-american-university-of-kabul-afghanistan.html

]]> By: geoffb https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574060 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 17:18:09 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574060 More:

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/senator-seeks-investigation-into-americans-reportedly-denied-entry-to-kabul-airport/

]]> By: geoffb https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574048 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:55:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574048 This is the report which I posted on the Kurt S. thread. h/t insty

https://twitter.com/emilymiller/status/1432179085942345730

And this.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Yon/status/1432221325439893506

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574040 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:36:44 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574040 Reports that seven busloads of US citizens,females, were turned back at KIA by US forces, MG Donahue’s order.
They were taken by Taliban.
Results?

Anybody see anything on this?

Presuming this is true and not misunderstood: Donahue, as a normal person, would not have turned them away on his own. Thus, if true, there were orders.

]]> By: F https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574037 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:03:57 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574037 Neo:

You got it. Much more succinctly.

]]> By: gmmay70 https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574024 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:05:02 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574024

“I think we can probably agree that the manner in which the Biden administration has handled this retreat is extremely costly, perhaps not so much in immediate loss of money (although if you count the weaponry we lost it is an enormous amount) but future loss of reputation and trust of the world.”

Yes, we can agree on this. 🙂

Respectfully,

]]> By: FB https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574010 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 07:46:12 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574010 https://twitter.com/ES_Nahari/status/1431923161386430468?s=20

]]> By: Xylourgos https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/28/the-afghanistan-bugout-the-gop-hawks-called-this-one/#comment-2574007 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 07:37:51 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=109950#comment-2574007 I am with Neo on this one. The US should have maintained a small footprint, as it has in recent years, in order to support and to assure that the assets given to the Afghan army were properly used. The sudden US pullout guaranteed the results we now have to live with.

When a funding agency loans money to a foreign government for an infrastructure project, it does not simply turn over the funds and “hope for the best”. The recipient country is required to employ a competent third party to oversee that the funds are properly spent. This was, in part, the role of the US military in Afghanistan, to oversee that the Afghan forces were keeping their part of the deal. The US pullout simply goes against all management principles if the goal was to keep the Taliban in check.

What actually happened leads to the question….was this the desired result?

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