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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[For this smurf climbing through the window, a punch in the mouth would have been excessive.
If she&#039;d actually attacked someone, I imagine a passerby would tell the victim about it.  Courteous thing to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this smurf climbing through the window, a punch in the mouth would have been excessive.<br />
If she&#8217;d actually attacked someone, I imagine a passerby would tell the victim about it.  Courteous thing to do.</p>
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		By: buddhaha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buddhaha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lon Horiuchi is still out there and wandering around on a government pension, so Byrd probably thinks he&#039;s home free, too. Both federal officers, both minorities, both shot an unarmed woman who was committing a non-capital federal crime.

From his interview, I distinguish a few differences, mainly in native intelligence. Horiuchi was a West Point graduate, before they woke themselves down. Byrd has a high school diploma. 

Unless the FBI puts him in the witness protection program, as was effectively done for Horiuchi, he may not be as home free as he thinks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lon Horiuchi is still out there and wandering around on a government pension, so Byrd probably thinks he&#8217;s home free, too. Both federal officers, both minorities, both shot an unarmed woman who was committing a non-capital federal crime.</p>
<p>From his interview, I distinguish a few differences, mainly in native intelligence. Horiuchi was a West Point graduate, before they woke themselves down. Byrd has a high school diploma. </p>
<p>Unless the FBI puts him in the witness protection program, as was effectively done for Horiuchi, he may not be as home free as he thinks.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Sick consequence of affirmative action: I see that he’s black and can’t help wondering if he was qualified for and/or capable in that job. Especially considering that gun-in-the-bathroom incident.&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s probably fine on a routine day.  Doesn&#039;t cut it.  The man&#039;s a security guard at heart and should be patrolling the Smithsonian answering patron questions and armed with a billy club or collapsable baton.  
 
AA does this in every stratum of the public sector and in segments of the private sector addled by diversity discourse (the education sector especially).  Also, because our odious federal judiciary has insisted civil service examinations be gutted so dopey black applicants can pass them, their screening function is vitiated for all segments of the workforce.  We have public bureaucracies chock-a-block with the chronically underperforming because that&#039;s what the judges and the legislators and the public employee unions want.  Our elites are horrid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sick consequence of affirmative action: I see that he’s black and can’t help wondering if he was qualified for and/or capable in that job. Especially considering that gun-in-the-bathroom incident.</i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably fine on a routine day.  Doesn&#8217;t cut it.  The man&#8217;s a security guard at heart and should be patrolling the Smithsonian answering patron questions and armed with a billy club or collapsable baton.  </p>
<p>AA does this in every stratum of the public sector and in segments of the private sector addled by diversity discourse (the education sector especially).  Also, because our odious federal judiciary has insisted civil service examinations be gutted so dopey black applicants can pass them, their screening function is vitiated for all segments of the workforce.  We have public bureaucracies chock-a-block with the chronically underperforming because that&#8217;s what the judges and the legislators and the public employee unions want.  Our elites are horrid.</p>
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		By: William Graves		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Graves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Better to remain silent and leave your intelligence in doubt, than to speak, and to remove all doubt.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Better to remain silent and leave your intelligence in doubt, than to speak, and to remove all doubt.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As far as saving &#039;Countless Lives&#039;, well.....I guess that&#039;s a range from zero to infinity, with my emphasis on the former.  Who can listen to a man describing himself as heroic and offering this rationalization without describing who it is he thinks he actually saved?  The chamber was already mostly evacuated, and they knew exactly how many people were in it.

With the help of the Establishment, which has provided the identity-cloaking services up till now, Byrd is able to front-run the inevitable release of his identity in the Civil case that is in process, and to establish his story as the first one out there, hopefully to dominate - again, with the help of the Establishment.  This is merely cynical self-interest in the manner to which we have become familiar.  It will convince nobody of his innocence, and harden the beliefs of those who think otherwise.  They need a change of venue to West Virginia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as saving &#8216;Countless Lives&#8217;, well&#8230;..I guess that&#8217;s a range from zero to infinity, with my emphasis on the former.  Who can listen to a man describing himself as heroic and offering this rationalization without describing who it is he thinks he actually saved?  The chamber was already mostly evacuated, and they knew exactly how many people were in it.</p>
<p>With the help of the Establishment, which has provided the identity-cloaking services up till now, Byrd is able to front-run the inevitable release of his identity in the Civil case that is in process, and to establish his story as the first one out there, hopefully to dominate &#8211; again, with the help of the Establishment.  This is merely cynical self-interest in the manner to which we have become familiar.  It will convince nobody of his innocence, and harden the beliefs of those who think otherwise.  They need a change of venue to West Virginia.</p>
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		By: Mitchell Strand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitchell Strand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.&quot;

--Ralph Waldo Emerson]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Ralph Waldo Emerson</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having read the link posted by geoffb, it looks to me like Byrd is repeating his lawyer&#039;s narrative, which is what obedient clients do.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/08/05/lawyer_capitol_cop_who_shot_ashli_babbitt_ambushed_her_on_jan_6_without_warning_788569.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;He was acting within his training,” Schamel said. &quot;Lethal force is appropriate if the situation puts you or others in fear of imminent bodily harm.”

Added Schamel: &quot;There should be a training video on how he handled that situation. What he did was unbelievable heroism.&quot; 
[Babbitt family attorney] Roberts argued that he could have retreated if he feared for his life, as other officers did that day — and later received medals for heroism — but Schamel countered that he was guarding a critical chokepoint and saved a &quot;potential massacre of lawmakers and staff” by the mob.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The first thought I had reading Byrd&#039;s assertions was that he sounded exactly like LTC Vindman of Impeachment 1.0 fame, who was also a Hero in his own estimation.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-lt-col-vindman-returns
&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, Vindman has written a book, Here, Right Matters , about his experience. And in one recent publicity interview, with the Lawfare podcast , he said that if there had been no whistleblower complaint against Trump, Vindman would not have &quot;let things stand.&quot; Instead, Vindman said, he would have devised some other tactic to protect Joe Biden, Trump&#039;s Democratic rival for the presidency, from harm by Trump&#039;s actions.
...
 His work, Vindman said, combined with the strain of the Covid pandemic and last year&#039;s racial unrest, &quot;came together to allow President Biden to defeat President Trump.&quot;

&quot;We contributed to that,&quot; Vindman said, with a touch of pride. &quot;We public servants, the antibodies against corruption, contributed to that. And then the public, the United States citizenry, held the president accountable ultimately where the Senate failed. And that, I think, is a success.&quot;

Vindman was asked whether that attitude confirms what Trump and his supporters have long said about the &quot;deep state&quot; -- that there were nameless, faceless functionaries, deep inside the bureaucracy, trying to influence the political process to defeat a president who had been elected by tens of millions American voters.

Not true, Vindman insisted. &quot;The judgments that come in and would label me as a deep stater are partisan, political judgments,&quot; Vindman explained, &quot;when an impartial, fair assessment would suggest that all I did was do my duty.&quot; 
In short: My critics are partisan, but I am not.
...
To this day, Vindman, who says he discussed the Trump-Zelensky call with six people, will identify five of them but has steadfastly refused to reveal the sixth. That person, Republicans believe, became the whistleblower.

It sure doesn&#039;t sound apolitical. Yet Vindman told the Lawfare podcast, &quot;I still consider myself apolitical.&quot; In fact, he took part in one of the most political exercises one could imagine -- and still won&#039;t reveal his entire role in it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the link posted by geoffb, it looks to me like Byrd is repeating his lawyer&#8217;s narrative, which is what obedient clients do.<br />
<a href="https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/08/05/lawyer_capitol_cop_who_shot_ashli_babbitt_ambushed_her_on_jan_6_without_warning_788569.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/08/05/lawyer_capitol_cop_who_shot_ashli_babbitt_ambushed_her_on_jan_6_without_warning_788569.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He was acting within his training,” Schamel said. &#8220;Lethal force is appropriate if the situation puts you or others in fear of imminent bodily harm.”</p>
<p>Added Schamel: &#8220;There should be a training video on how he handled that situation. What he did was unbelievable heroism.&#8221;<br />
[Babbitt family attorney] Roberts argued that he could have retreated if he feared for his life, as other officers did that day — and later received medals for heroism — but Schamel countered that he was guarding a critical chokepoint and saved a &#8220;potential massacre of lawmakers and staff” by the mob.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The first thought I had reading Byrd&#8217;s assertions was that he sounded exactly like LTC Vindman of Impeachment 1.0 fame, who was also a Hero in his own estimation.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-lt-col-vindman-returns" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-lt-col-vindman-returns</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Now, Vindman has written a book, Here, Right Matters , about his experience. And in one recent publicity interview, with the Lawfare podcast , he said that if there had been no whistleblower complaint against Trump, Vindman would not have &#8220;let things stand.&#8221; Instead, Vindman said, he would have devised some other tactic to protect Joe Biden, Trump&#8217;s Democratic rival for the presidency, from harm by Trump&#8217;s actions.<br />
&#8230;<br />
 His work, Vindman said, combined with the strain of the Covid pandemic and last year&#8217;s racial unrest, &#8220;came together to allow President Biden to defeat President Trump.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We contributed to that,&#8221; Vindman said, with a touch of pride. &#8220;We public servants, the antibodies against corruption, contributed to that. And then the public, the United States citizenry, held the president accountable ultimately where the Senate failed. And that, I think, is a success.&#8221;</p>
<p>Vindman was asked whether that attitude confirms what Trump and his supporters have long said about the &#8220;deep state&#8221; &#8212; that there were nameless, faceless functionaries, deep inside the bureaucracy, trying to influence the political process to defeat a president who had been elected by tens of millions American voters.</p>
<p>Not true, Vindman insisted. &#8220;The judgments that come in and would label me as a deep stater are partisan, political judgments,&#8221; Vindman explained, &#8220;when an impartial, fair assessment would suggest that all I did was do my duty.&#8221;<br />
In short: My critics are partisan, but I am not.<br />
&#8230;<br />
To this day, Vindman, who says he discussed the Trump-Zelensky call with six people, will identify five of them but has steadfastly refused to reveal the sixth. That person, Republicans believe, became the whistleblower.</p>
<p>It sure doesn&#8217;t sound apolitical. Yet Vindman told the Lawfare podcast, &#8220;I still consider myself apolitical.&#8221; In fact, he took part in one of the most political exercises one could imagine &#8212; and still won&#8217;t reveal his entire role in it.
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 02:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Erasmus, 7:33pm: not sure if you intended it to be or not but that is very grimly funny. Or grimly very funny.

Sick consequence of affirmative action: I see that he&#039;s black and can&#039;t help wondering if he was qualified for and/or capable in that job. Especially considering that gun-in-the-bathroom incident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erasmus, 7:33pm: not sure if you intended it to be or not but that is very grimly funny. Or grimly very funny.</p>
<p>Sick consequence of affirmative action: I see that he&#8217;s black and can&#8217;t help wondering if he was qualified for and/or capable in that job. Especially considering that gun-in-the-bathroom incident.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely,
I looked at an NBC video several times.  I&#039;d say you are correct.  Although, the real time video shows the gun jerk a little about 1/2 second before the firing.  The slo-mo clip starts just after the jerk.  Not sure what to make of it, though it looks to be a minor detail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan Lovely,<br />
I looked at an NBC video several times.  I&#8217;d say you are correct.  Although, the real time video shows the gun jerk a little about 1/2 second before the firing.  The slo-mo clip starts just after the jerk.  Not sure what to make of it, though it looks to be a minor detail.</p>
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		By: roy in nipomo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roy in nipomo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 00:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wow – the utmost courage. I have actually never heard a hero say something like that of himself or herself; it’s rather odd and uncharacteristic and unheroic. Heroes are almost always humble and downplaying their actions...&quot;

MOH winner, Maynard &quot;Snuffy&quot; Smith (a real eight ball) comes to mind.  He was a &quot;hero&quot; and everyone should wait on him and be grateful that they could just be around him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow – the utmost courage. I have actually never heard a hero say something like that of himself or herself; it’s rather odd and uncharacteristic and unheroic. Heroes are almost always humble and downplaying their actions&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>MOH winner, Maynard &#8220;Snuffy&#8221; Smith (a real eight ball) comes to mind.  He was a &#8220;hero&#8221; and everyone should wait on him and be grateful that they could just be around him.</p>
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