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		By: Peter Nolan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Nolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 01:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The reason the media/democrats promoted Cuomo as &quot;America&#039;s Governor&quot; last year was because they needed someone to step in in case Biden &quot;sundowned&quot; on the campaign, and it looked like he was going to lose. (See Robert Torricelli, NJ) In the end, Biden was certified as the winner.
Come mid 2021, with Cuomo the most popular governor in America, thanks to the media support, and Harris, the least popular VP in 50 years, Cuomo is now a threat. Cuomo would crush Harris (or Biden) in the 2024 primary. So he is being sidelined. The sexual harassment allegations are just the excuse, everyone involved knew about those all along.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the media/democrats promoted Cuomo as &#8220;America&#8217;s Governor&#8221; last year was because they needed someone to step in in case Biden &#8220;sundowned&#8221; on the campaign, and it looked like he was going to lose. (See Robert Torricelli, NJ) In the end, Biden was certified as the winner.<br />
Come mid 2021, with Cuomo the most popular governor in America, thanks to the media support, and Harris, the least popular VP in 50 years, Cuomo is now a threat. Cuomo would crush Harris (or Biden) in the 2024 primary. So he is being sidelined. The sexual harassment allegations are just the excuse, everyone involved knew about those all along.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 00:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I note for the record, in case anyone is wondering (as I was until yesterday), that her last name is pronounced HOKE-ull. I had thought for the longest time it was HO-shul or something like that. It&#039;s not a family name I had encountered before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note for the record, in case anyone is wondering (as I was until yesterday), that her last name is pronounced HOKE-ull. I had thought for the longest time it was HO-shul or something like that. It&#8217;s not a family name I had encountered before.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Note, the Lt. Governor&#039;s office as currently constituted is a nonsense position which should be eliminated.  Of those who have occupied the position since 1974, Mary Ann Krupsak, Mario Cuomo (at the end), and Elizabeth McCaughey each had a raucous falling out with the Governor of the day.  Alfred del Bello and Robert Duffy relinquished the position out of boredom.  David Patterson was a good-natured Albany lifer who landed in the governor&#039;s chair unexpectedly.  The people who stuck it out in the job were Stanley Lundine (a good soldier for Cuomo eventually treated quite shabbily by Downstate pols), Mary Donohue (a Rensselaer County pol who one might wager was agreeable to the job because she had little ambition and it allowed her to rack up time toward her state pension), and Hochul.  The people reconciled to the job are people who are not aggressive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note, the Lt. Governor&#8217;s office as currently constituted is a nonsense position which should be eliminated.  Of those who have occupied the position since 1974, Mary Ann Krupsak, Mario Cuomo (at the end), and Elizabeth McCaughey each had a raucous falling out with the Governor of the day.  Alfred del Bello and Robert Duffy relinquished the position out of boredom.  David Patterson was a good-natured Albany lifer who landed in the governor&#8217;s chair unexpectedly.  The people who stuck it out in the job were Stanley Lundine (a good soldier for Cuomo eventually treated quite shabbily by Downstate pols), Mary Donohue (a Rensselaer County pol who one might wager was agreeable to the job because she had little ambition and it allowed her to rack up time toward her state pension), and Hochul.  The people reconciled to the job are people who are not aggressive.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;You seem to think the “Democratic bosses” in NY still hold sway. If they did, I doubt Cuomo would be resigning right now.&lt;/i&gt;

Disagree. The Speaker of the Assembly and the President of the state senate controls which legislative process that generates the budget (and the business opportunities for insiders), not Valerie Jarrett.  Rank-and-file Democrats in the assembly (with a scatter of exceptions) do what they&#039;re told by the chamber bosses.  I&#039;m a betting those chaps are delighted to be dealing with Kathy Hochul, who has no reputation for being a battle-axe.  Now they call the plays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You seem to think the “Democratic bosses” in NY still hold sway. If they did, I doubt Cuomo would be resigning right now.</i></p>
<p>Disagree. The Speaker of the Assembly and the President of the state senate controls which legislative process that generates the budget (and the business opportunities for insiders), not Valerie Jarrett.  Rank-and-file Democrats in the assembly (with a scatter of exceptions) do what they&#8217;re told by the chamber bosses.  I&#8217;m a betting those chaps are delighted to be dealing with Kathy Hochul, who has no reputation for being a battle-axe.  Now they call the plays.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 10:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question, AesopFan, about why all these women came forward now is interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question, AesopFan, about why all these women came forward now is interesting.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 07:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AF,
Yes, of course she&#039;s delusional...(alas)...but she&#039;s OUR delusional.

(Though she really OUGHT TO BE the country&#039;s delusional...)

Poor Tara, maybe you will get justice...one day. (What say you OH YOU oh-so-virtuous METOO-ers, ALL YOU oh-so-principled feminists??!!)

IOW, who knows how long Joe Biden will continue to be protected by &quot;Biden&quot; and the corrupt media/info-tech monkeys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AF,<br />
Yes, of course she&#8217;s delusional&#8230;(alas)&#8230;but she&#8217;s OUR delusional.</p>
<p>(Though she really OUGHT TO BE the country&#8217;s delusional&#8230;)</p>
<p>Poor Tara, maybe you will get justice&#8230;one day. (What say you OH YOU oh-so-virtuous METOO-ers, ALL YOU oh-so-principled feminists??!!)</p>
<p>IOW, who knows how long Joe Biden will continue to be protected by &#8220;Biden&#8221; and the corrupt media/info-tech monkeys.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco @ 10:24,

Yes, I know James doesn&#039;t get installed if Cuomo is recalled I&#039;m referring to the next election. My point is that the Old party bosses in NY have lost their clout and Obama and others now have it. You seem to think the &quot;Democratic bosses&quot; in NY still hold sway. If they did, I doubt Cuomo would be resigning right now.

It will be very hard for another Democrat to beat James if she runs (she holds two cards in the intersectional olympics), and she&#039;s already stated her electoral goal is to be Governor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco @ 10:24,</p>
<p>Yes, I know James doesn&#8217;t get installed if Cuomo is recalled I&#8217;m referring to the next election. My point is that the Old party bosses in NY have lost their clout and Obama and others now have it. You seem to think the &#8220;Democratic bosses&#8221; in NY still hold sway. If they did, I doubt Cuomo would be resigning right now.</p>
<p>It will be very hard for another Democrat to beat James if she runs (she holds two cards in the intersectional olympics), and she&#8217;s already stated her electoral goal is to be Governor.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/10/andrew-cuomo-resigns-effective-in-14-days/#comment-2569617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 06:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ben Shapiro: &quot;In order for true justice to be done, Cuomo ought to have to resign alone in a hospital room without any access to family.&quot;
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1425136837710942208]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Shapiro: &#8220;In order for true justice to be done, Cuomo ought to have to resign alone in a hospital room without any access to family.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1425136837710942208" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1425136837710942208</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/08/10/andrew-cuomo-resigns-effective-in-14-days/#comment-2569615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 05:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael Tracey has some thoughts, which have probably occurred to more than one pundit, but he&#039;s putting them on record in the first &quot;mainish stream&quot; post* I&#039;ve read to do so.

His account, taken from James&#039;s report, lends some credence to the Governor&#039;s complaint that the red line of acceptable behavior moved (although as noted above, he shouldn&#039;t have assumed it would never change because of Who He Was), and still raises the question of who and what convinced all of his formerly happy campers to turn on the Senior Camper.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/cuomo-michael-tracey

Headline: &quot;What Exactly Is Andrew Cuomo Guilty Of? - Aside from killing thousands of old people in nursing homes, of course&quot;
&lt;blockquote&gt;In the 165-page report issued last week by New York State Attorney General Letitia James, there is a curious incongruity that few seem to have noticed in their furor to denounce Gov. Andrew Cuomo. &lt;b&gt;(How many journalists bothered to read the report before commenting, one wonders?) &lt;/b&gt;While press accounts have near-uniformly declared the allegations set forth to be supremely “damning,” a closer examination of the report itself, as well as the peculiar surrounding details, leaves room for a bit more ambiguity.

The report concludes that “under the totality of the circumstances,” Cuomo’s conduct “created a hostile work environment” and therefore constituted a violation—or multiple violations—of the law. “Even the Governor’s less overtly sexual comments that were nonetheless gender-based” contributed to this allegedly unlawful dynamic, the report opines.

&lt;b&gt;“Opines” is an operative word here. Despite accusations leveled by James at her TV press conference that Cuomo “violated federal and state law,” no charges of any kind were brought against the governor, which makes this episode an extreme rarity in the annals of American due process.&lt;/b&gt;** “For a prosecutor to say the things she did ... would be a violation of the code of ethics,” Bennett Gershman, a law professor at Pace University, told me. “In New York state, I can’t think of another situation where an attorney general went so far,” he added. “A lot of her statements were quite inflammatory, and highly prejudicial.”
...
But parsed out elsewhere in the report—evidently causing it to be missed by frenetic pundits—is the revelation that &lt;b&gt;“none” of the staff involved in the lap-sitting activity “reported feeling uncomfortable with this behavior.”&lt;/b&gt;

In fact, the report’s authors concede, “a number of witnesses we spoke to informed us that all of this behavior led to a sense among staff members in the Executive Chamber that personal attention from the Governor, even if flirtatious … was not only normal, but to be valued.” This would seem to be exculpatory information of a kind—but a search across Google and Twitter suggests it’s been omitted almost entirely from the ensuing press coverage. Instead, these exculpatory testaments were somehow reconfigured by the report’s authors as evidence of Cuomo’s guilt. In the rush to axe Cuomo, media accounts appear to have wholly glossed over this discrepancy.
...
...&lt;b&gt;the attorney general’s standard of “belief” seems to involve explicitly accusing public officials of lawbreaking, while forsaking any obligation to actually prove those accusations in court.&lt;/b&gt;

As a three-term governor and product of a family dynasty—which includes a brother who functions as his personal PR flack on CNN prime time—Cuomo has a well-established record of megalomania and brute force political maneuvering. So the hostility he’s now engulfed by has been building for years.

Still, prior grudges should in theory have no bearing on whether it’s sound public policy to idly “believe,” [everybody, apparently.]
...
Surely the truth of the matter could be ascertained in an appropriately adversarial legal setting. However, by Letitia James’ own admission, ascertaining truth seems not to have been the purpose of this particular investigation.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*There ought to be a name for the collective conservative electronic media that would formerly have been considered main stream, except that now applies only to Democrat operatives with by-lines.

**Comey explaining how Hillary Clinton did all the illegal things she was accused of, but that no reasonable prosecutor would charge her with the crimes she committed, somehow springs to mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Tracey has some thoughts, which have probably occurred to more than one pundit, but he&#8217;s putting them on record in the first &#8220;mainish stream&#8221; post* I&#8217;ve read to do so.</p>
<p>His account, taken from James&#8217;s report, lends some credence to the Governor&#8217;s complaint that the red line of acceptable behavior moved (although as noted above, he shouldn&#8217;t have assumed it would never change because of Who He Was), and still raises the question of who and what convinced all of his formerly happy campers to turn on the Senior Camper.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/cuomo-michael-tracey" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/cuomo-michael-tracey</a></p>
<p>Headline: &#8220;What Exactly Is Andrew Cuomo Guilty Of? &#8211; Aside from killing thousands of old people in nursing homes, of course&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>In the 165-page report issued last week by New York State Attorney General Letitia James, there is a curious incongruity that few seem to have noticed in their furor to denounce Gov. Andrew Cuomo. <b>(How many journalists bothered to read the report before commenting, one wonders?) </b>While press accounts have near-uniformly declared the allegations set forth to be supremely “damning,” a closer examination of the report itself, as well as the peculiar surrounding details, leaves room for a bit more ambiguity.</p>
<p>The report concludes that “under the totality of the circumstances,” Cuomo’s conduct “created a hostile work environment” and therefore constituted a violation—or multiple violations—of the law. “Even the Governor’s less overtly sexual comments that were nonetheless gender-based” contributed to this allegedly unlawful dynamic, the report opines.</p>
<p><b>“Opines” is an operative word here. Despite accusations leveled by James at her TV press conference that Cuomo “violated federal and state law,” no charges of any kind were brought against the governor, which makes this episode an extreme rarity in the annals of American due process.</b>** “For a prosecutor to say the things she did &#8230; would be a violation of the code of ethics,” Bennett Gershman, a law professor at Pace University, told me. “In New York state, I can’t think of another situation where an attorney general went so far,” he added. “A lot of her statements were quite inflammatory, and highly prejudicial.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
But parsed out elsewhere in the report—evidently causing it to be missed by frenetic pundits—is the revelation that <b>“none” of the staff involved in the lap-sitting activity “reported feeling uncomfortable with this behavior.”</b></p>
<p>In fact, the report’s authors concede, “a number of witnesses we spoke to informed us that all of this behavior led to a sense among staff members in the Executive Chamber that personal attention from the Governor, even if flirtatious … was not only normal, but to be valued.” This would seem to be exculpatory information of a kind—but a search across Google and Twitter suggests it’s been omitted almost entirely from the ensuing press coverage. Instead, these exculpatory testaments were somehow reconfigured by the report’s authors as evidence of Cuomo’s guilt. In the rush to axe Cuomo, media accounts appear to have wholly glossed over this discrepancy.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<b>the attorney general’s standard of “belief” seems to involve explicitly accusing public officials of lawbreaking, while forsaking any obligation to actually prove those accusations in court.</b></p>
<p>As a three-term governor and product of a family dynasty—which includes a brother who functions as his personal PR flack on CNN prime time—Cuomo has a well-established record of megalomania and brute force political maneuvering. So the hostility he’s now engulfed by has been building for years.</p>
<p>Still, prior grudges should in theory have no bearing on whether it’s sound public policy to idly “believe,” [everybody, apparently.]<br />
&#8230;<br />
Surely the truth of the matter could be ascertained in an appropriately adversarial legal setting. However, by Letitia James’ own admission, ascertaining truth seems not to have been the purpose of this particular investigation.
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<p>*There ought to be a name for the collective conservative electronic media that would formerly have been considered main stream, except that now applies only to Democrat operatives with by-lines.</p>
<p>**Comey explaining how Hillary Clinton did all the illegal things she was accused of, but that no reasonable prosecutor would charge her with the crimes she committed, somehow springs to mind.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 04:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Barry - I&#039;m glad Tara is still pursuing justice from Biden (Nevertheless, she persisted, somebody once said), but she is delusional about why Cuomo got the ax. 

&quot;The revelations and Cuomo&#039;s resignation is a signal to the powerful men with nasty behavior that survivors&#039; voices will be heard and their behavior no longer rewarded. Not from a governor and not from the president of the United States,&quot; Reade said. 

Their behavior will continue and be rewarded (or at least accepted and covered up), unless they become a danger to other powerful men (and women), for whatever reason having nothing to do with survivors&#039; voices.

I would like to know who went around convincing the women it would be safe to come forward NOW, as opposed to when the abuses actually happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry &#8211; I&#8217;m glad Tara is still pursuing justice from Biden (Nevertheless, she persisted, somebody once said), but she is delusional about why Cuomo got the ax. </p>
<p>&#8220;The revelations and Cuomo&#8217;s resignation is a signal to the powerful men with nasty behavior that survivors&#8217; voices will be heard and their behavior no longer rewarded. Not from a governor and not from the president of the United States,&#8221; Reade said. </p>
<p>Their behavior will continue and be rewarded (or at least accepted and covered up), unless they become a danger to other powerful men (and women), for whatever reason having nothing to do with survivors&#8217; voices.</p>
<p>I would like to know who went around convincing the women it would be safe to come forward NOW, as opposed to when the abuses actually happened.</p>
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