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	Comments on: The tangled web: more on the Whitmer kidnapping plot, the FBI, and entrapment	</title>
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		By: sound awake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sound awake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 03:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[they were arrested in october 2020
-an election year-
remember what happened in october exactly two years prior
-another election year-
the cesar sayoc fake pipe bomb attacks
remember how the fbi caught him
not witnesses not video not cell phone data
his dna was on the packages
remember where he worked
at the same strip club stormy daniels worked
remember stormy daniels
SHE WAS THE ONLY STRIPPER IN THE WORLD AT THE TIME SUING THE PRESIDENT AND HOW EASY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN TO GET HIS DNA AT A STRIP CLUB TO PLANT ON EVIDENCE
the chances of it not being an fbi operation:
100 thousand trillion to 1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they were arrested in october 2020<br />
-an election year-<br />
remember what happened in october exactly two years prior<br />
-another election year-<br />
the cesar sayoc fake pipe bomb attacks<br />
remember how the fbi caught him<br />
not witnesses not video not cell phone data<br />
his dna was on the packages<br />
remember where he worked<br />
at the same strip club stormy daniels worked<br />
remember stormy daniels<br />
SHE WAS THE ONLY STRIPPER IN THE WORLD AT THE TIME SUING THE PRESIDENT AND HOW EASY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN TO GET HIS DNA AT A STRIP CLUB TO PLANT ON EVIDENCE<br />
the chances of it not being an fbi operation:<br />
100 thousand trillion to 1</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A dozen unemployed retards being led around and encouraged to commit crimes by half as many FBI agents and their 1099 form contract flunkies.

Anybody who even glanced at the original accusations would have immediately asked (as I and I am sure many others did as well) : what could the ostensible perpetrators of such a plot - pretending for a moment that it was real - have hoped to actually accomplish?

Are people who are so stupid as to dream of such a thing working, even intellectually capable of the marshaling of resources and the implementing of logistical programs even approximately adequate to pulling off their ludicrous day-dream on their own?

The FBI has basically just demonstrated that for the most part, leftist academics aside, they are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dozen unemployed retards being led around and encouraged to commit crimes by half as many FBI agents and their 1099 form contract flunkies.</p>
<p>Anybody who even glanced at the original accusations would have immediately asked (as I and I am sure many others did as well) : what could the ostensible perpetrators of such a plot &#8211; pretending for a moment that it was real &#8211; have hoped to actually accomplish?</p>
<p>Are people who are so stupid as to dream of such a thing working, even intellectually capable of the marshaling of resources and the implementing of logistical programs even approximately adequate to pulling off their ludicrous day-dream on their own?</p>
<p>The FBI has basically just demonstrated that for the most part, leftist academics aside, they are not.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So does this mean that when &quot;Biden&quot; warns us about White Supremacists being the NUMBER ONE SUPER DUPER threat to America, &quot;he&quot; &#039;s really warning us about the FBI---yep, THAT FBI---which is working in tandem with (i.e., under the auspices of) &quot;Biden&quot;?

Hmm. Thought so....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean that when &#8220;Biden&#8221; warns us about White Supremacists being the NUMBER ONE SUPER DUPER threat to America, &#8220;he&#8221; &#8216;s really warning us about the FBI&#8212;yep, THAT FBI&#8212;which is working in tandem with (i.e., under the auspices of) &#8220;Biden&#8221;?</p>
<p>Hmm. Thought so&#8230;.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JFM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A police officer friend of mine told me if I ever joined such a group, out of three members two would be FBI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A police officer friend of mine told me if I ever joined such a group, out of three members two would be FBI.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Entrapment was part of the plan to get the pointless Ruby Ridge crime going.
John Guilfoyle: After the trial of the wife of the Orlando night club, one of the jurors mentioned skepticism regarding FBI witnesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entrapment was part of the plan to get the pointless Ruby Ridge crime going.<br />
John Guilfoyle: After the trial of the wife of the Orlando night club, one of the jurors mentioned skepticism regarding FBI witnesses.</p>
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		By: BonHagar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BonHagar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer? Really? Sounds like it’s own punishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer? Really? Sounds like it’s own punishment.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoffb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 12:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle said:

&quot;Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.&quot;

But if you let on any of that in the juror questioning as they select jurors you will be kicked off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Guilfoyle said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.&#8221;</p>
<p>But if you let on any of that in the juror questioning as they select jurors you will be kicked off.</p>
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		By: Brett Bellmore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett Bellmore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 10:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;When I first read about the Michigan plot the strong possibility of entrapment occurred to me, probably because of my legal training in the 70s.&quot;

I was tangentially involved with the Michigan Militia back in the 90&#039;s, attended some rallies. Mostly the Brass Roots rallies in conjunction with the LP and gun rights organizations. It&#039;s really trippy seeing a peaceful political protest being watched by cops from surrounding roof tops through rifle scopes, by the way.

It was commonly said at the time that if anybody in a group started talking about committing serious crimes, you&#039;d identified your FBI infiltrator, and you needed to throw them out immediately.

I guess the FBI have solve the problem of their infiltrators being tossed out, by getting them to work their way into leadership positions before proposing crimes? Sounds like it.

At this point, when I read of some plot being foiled by the FBI, my default assumption is that it was entrapment, though I&#039;m open to having that disproved. And the events of Jan. 6th sure look like a typical &quot;FBI fails to swoop in in time.&quot; screwup, especially given how incredibly rapidly they had all that information on the key participants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I first read about the Michigan plot the strong possibility of entrapment occurred to me, probably because of my legal training in the 70s.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was tangentially involved with the Michigan Militia back in the 90&#8217;s, attended some rallies. Mostly the Brass Roots rallies in conjunction with the LP and gun rights organizations. It&#8217;s really trippy seeing a peaceful political protest being watched by cops from surrounding roof tops through rifle scopes, by the way.</p>
<p>It was commonly said at the time that if anybody in a group started talking about committing serious crimes, you&#8217;d identified your FBI infiltrator, and you needed to throw them out immediately.</p>
<p>I guess the FBI have solve the problem of their infiltrators being tossed out, by getting them to work their way into leadership positions before proposing crimes? Sounds like it.</p>
<p>At this point, when I read of some plot being foiled by the FBI, my default assumption is that it was entrapment, though I&#8217;m open to having that disproved. And the events of Jan. 6th sure look like a typical &#8220;FBI fails to swoop in in time.&#8221; screwup, especially given how incredibly rapidly they had all that information on the key participants.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 06:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.
They appear more &#038; more corrupt to the core.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.<br />
They appear more &amp; more corrupt to the core.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 04:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When the  incursion into the Capitol occurred, it just didn&#039;t make sense to me. The Trump rally was going  to be yuuge. The  security  should have been massive.  The National Guard was offered and refused.  The  security arrangements were not much  more than for a normal day in D.C. 

The  thing that  ticked me off was that Hawley  and Cruz were going to  offer evidence as to why there  should be a short delay in the certification of Biden while an audit was done in  the swing states. That never happened because the House and Senate were evacuated. At least  the MSM would have had  to report the evidence they presented. No more brushing it off as &quot;baseless.&quot;

In many videos I saw there were intruders who were kitted up just like ANTIFA rioters that we saw last summer.  There weren&#039;t huge numbers of them, but it appeared they were provocateurs.  Were these some of the unindicted co-conspirators?  

It&#039;s all very smelly and smacks of a entrapment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the  incursion into the Capitol occurred, it just didn&#8217;t make sense to me. The Trump rally was going  to be yuuge. The  security  should have been massive.  The National Guard was offered and refused.  The  security arrangements were not much  more than for a normal day in D.C. </p>
<p>The  thing that  ticked me off was that Hawley  and Cruz were going to  offer evidence as to why there  should be a short delay in the certification of Biden while an audit was done in  the swing states. That never happened because the House and Senate were evacuated. At least  the MSM would have had  to report the evidence they presented. No more brushing it off as &#8220;baseless.&#8221;</p>
<p>In many videos I saw there were intruders who were kitted up just like ANTIFA rioters that we saw last summer.  There weren&#8217;t huge numbers of them, but it appeared they were provocateurs.  Were these some of the unindicted co-conspirators?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very smelly and smacks of a entrapment.</p>
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