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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I&#039;m sure most of your &quot;liberal&quot; friends and family have an implicit, if not explicit, desire to be among the Morally Superior.
In the easiest possible way.
Which, in itself, is not evil.

But accepting evil is not good, even if it&#039;s not evil, or let&#039;s say &quot;immoral&quot;, or even &quot;against the usual principles&quot;.

Tell the Truth.  
&lt;i&gt;Live NOT by Lies&lt;/i&gt; 

Cooper calls them The Regime.  Black John McWhorter calls them The Elect.  Thomas Sowell calls the The Anointed.  Glen Loury, who I echo, calls them the Elite.


Republicans should now be pushing for Term Limitations on govt officials.  They need to leave govt &quot;semi-socialism&quot;, and get back in the real world of competition and freedom.

This thread about why Reps are angry is so good.  But also so ... &quot;whatcha gonna do about it&quot; --missing.

America loving Americans are being lied to and having their elections stolen by American haters - what are we going to do about it.

Multi-pronged effort, especially at first.

Brainstorming about possibilities, then looking at good and bad points.  But in social media practice, we get brainstorming plus evaluations at the same time, inevitably.

Trump might be the best leader of the anti-Elite we have, but he&#039;s not a great leader, despite being a great talker.

He does NOT have, nor will ever have, &quot;moral superiority&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I&#8217;m sure most of your &#8220;liberal&#8221; friends and family have an implicit, if not explicit, desire to be among the Morally Superior.<br />
In the easiest possible way.<br />
Which, in itself, is not evil.</p>
<p>But accepting evil is not good, even if it&#8217;s not evil, or let&#8217;s say &#8220;immoral&#8221;, or even &#8220;against the usual principles&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tell the Truth.<br />
<i>Live NOT by Lies</i> </p>
<p>Cooper calls them The Regime.  Black John McWhorter calls them The Elect.  Thomas Sowell calls the The Anointed.  Glen Loury, who I echo, calls them the Elite.</p>
<p>Republicans should now be pushing for Term Limitations on govt officials.  They need to leave govt &#8220;semi-socialism&#8221;, and get back in the real world of competition and freedom.</p>
<p>This thread about why Reps are angry is so good.  But also so &#8230; &#8220;whatcha gonna do about it&#8221; &#8211;missing.</p>
<p>America loving Americans are being lied to and having their elections stolen by American haters &#8211; what are we going to do about it.</p>
<p>Multi-pronged effort, especially at first.</p>
<p>Brainstorming about possibilities, then looking at good and bad points.  But in social media practice, we get brainstorming plus evaluations at the same time, inevitably.</p>
<p>Trump might be the best leader of the anti-Elite we have, but he&#8217;s not a great leader, despite being a great talker.</p>
<p>He does NOT have, nor will ever have, &#8220;moral superiority&#8221;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 05:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aggie:

Thanks for this link too. It&#039;s a keeper.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for this link too. It&#8217;s a keeper.</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This might just get buried and never read, but I thought this was a good followup to all the (well-deserved) attention this thread by MartyrMade has generated.

Darrel Cooper (MartyrMade) has written an essay on Substack under Glenn Greenwald&#039;s header to explain a bit more and expand his thinking on the same themes.  It&#039;s worth a read.

https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p/author-of-the-mega-viral-thread-on

Cooper does not define himself as a Conservative, Republican or Libertarian, but says he&#039;s &#039;conservative by temperament&#039; with all of his political friends on the Left.  He wrote the thread to communicate to the Left that he thinks this is an opportunity for them to reach out to Conservatives (&#039;once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, he says), as they are....adrift at present with their sense of political alignment.  (I snorted at this, but maybe he knows a better class of Leftists).

Some of the comments are worth reading as well, along the lines of what @Stan is referencing, above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might just get buried and never read, but I thought this was a good followup to all the (well-deserved) attention this thread by MartyrMade has generated.</p>
<p>Darrel Cooper (MartyrMade) has written an essay on Substack under Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s header to explain a bit more and expand his thinking on the same themes.  It&#8217;s worth a read.</p>
<p><a href="https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p/author-of-the-mega-viral-thread-on" rel="nofollow ugc">https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p/author-of-the-mega-viral-thread-on</a></p>
<p>Cooper does not define himself as a Conservative, Republican or Libertarian, but says he&#8217;s &#8216;conservative by temperament&#8217; with all of his political friends on the Left.  He wrote the thread to communicate to the Left that he thinks this is an opportunity for them to reach out to Conservatives (&#8216;once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, he says), as they are&#8230;.adrift at present with their sense of political alignment.  (I snorted at this, but maybe he knows a better class of Leftists).</p>
<p>Some of the comments are worth reading as well, along the lines of what @Stan is referencing, above.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, it&#039;s not evil, but it&#039;s not deserving of &quot;adult&quot; respect.
Those who don&#039;t do basic homework are *not entitled* to being heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not evil, but it&#8217;s not deserving of &#8220;adult&#8221; respect.<br />
Those who don&#8217;t do basic homework are *not entitled* to being heard.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[aNanyMouse:

I agree that &quot;it behooves them.&quot; But it&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;evil&lt;/i&gt; to not pay much attention, or (if paying attention) to think that the varied MSM sources one uses for information are mostly telling the truth.  It&#039;s naive and/or lazy or any number of things, but not evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aNanyMouse:</p>
<p>I agree that &#8220;it behooves them.&#8221; But it&#8217;s not <i>evil</i> to not pay much attention, or (if paying attention) to think that the varied MSM sources one uses for information are mostly telling the truth.  It&#8217;s naive and/or lazy or any number of things, but not evil.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, Neo, &quot;many are not very interested in politics... although some are&quot;. 
The key ones are the some who are.
I wasn&#039;t paying much attn. between, say, 2012 and 2016, but once I saw the Dems push this Russia BS, I was horrified.

It behooves folks interested in preserving peace, to look up the 1867 Luxembourg Crisis, and the Franco-Prussian War 3 years later.
War was averted in the first case, since Bismarck didn&#039;t let the German media bulldoze him, before the Russians could urge an 
int&#039;l Conference to sort it out.
War was not averted in the second case, since Napoleon&#039;s bad health sapped his will, to stop the French media from bulldozing him about the Ems Dispatch uproar, before anyone could urge another such Conf.
In 2017, Putin was able to stop the Russian media from bulldozing him about the DNC hack BS, but such a result was not guaranteed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Neo, &#8220;many are not very interested in politics&#8230; although some are&#8221;.<br />
The key ones are the some who are.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t paying much attn. between, say, 2012 and 2016, but once I saw the Dems push this Russia BS, I was horrified.</p>
<p>It behooves folks interested in preserving peace, to look up the 1867 Luxembourg Crisis, and the Franco-Prussian War 3 years later.<br />
War was averted in the first case, since Bismarck didn&#8217;t let the German media bulldoze him, before the Russians could urge an<br />
int&#8217;l Conference to sort it out.<br />
War was not averted in the second case, since Napoleon&#8217;s bad health sapped his will, to stop the French media from bulldozing him about the Ems Dispatch uproar, before anyone could urge another such Conf.<br />
In 2017, Putin was able to stop the Russian media from bulldozing him about the DNC hack BS, but such a result was not guaranteed.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stan:

Most of the people I know who are liberals bear responsiblity for gullibility and lack of interest. They do not seem to me to be morally deficient at all.  They are uncurious, they are somewhat trusting of the media, they are involved in other things, and many are not very interested in politics (or reading about it) although some are. 

For me, when I was a liberal, it was all about reading just a few sources and not being all that interested in politics, which repelled and bored me in equal measure. I don&#039;t see those things as moral failures. And that&#039;s what I see with most of my friends and family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan:</p>
<p>Most of the people I know who are liberals bear responsiblity for gullibility and lack of interest. They do not seem to me to be morally deficient at all.  They are uncurious, they are somewhat trusting of the media, they are involved in other things, and many are not very interested in politics (or reading about it) although some are. </p>
<p>For me, when I was a liberal, it was all about reading just a few sources and not being all that interested in politics, which repelled and bored me in equal measure. I don&#8217;t see those things as moral failures. And that&#8217;s what I see with most of my friends and family.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I hope we can agree that people who support evil bear some responsibility for what they support. The more awareness they have, the more accountable they must be.

Now the question is how much should any reasonably intelligent liberal be expected to know?

There are dozens of subjects that they should realize are part of the big LIE because any cursory look at the reality demonstrates it (women don&#039;t lie about rape, 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted on campus, boys are girls whenever they say so, Heinz 57 varieties of sexual identity, cops who save lives by shooting attempted murderers are racist, global warming, the gender pay gap, systemic racism, $15 min wage, etc.).

But beyond the Russia collusion and stolen election realities that are discussed in this thread, there are some that are so blatant anyone with a working brain understands them:

-- They know that the BLM narrative about cops was a nasty, slanderous stereotype.  They know that the protests were violent. And they know that the insistence that they were peaceful is blatant BS.

-- They know Antifa is not simply an idea.

-- They know that censorship is wrong. And cancel culture even worse.  If they aren&#039;t appalled at Big Tech and the news media by now, they are brain dead.

-- They know that everyone who disagrees with them is not a racist, fascist, Nazi, white supremacist. And that white supremacy is not the nation&#039;s biggest threat.  That the leaders of their party insist it is should scare the hell out of them. Normal people would be upset by this.  If GOP leaders were this nasty, vicious and blatantly wrong, every conservative on this thread would be screaming bloody murder. Why aren&#039;t liberals? There is simply way too much of this garbage for any honest person to dismiss.  There is enough to presume they are on notice. Time for accountability. They know. What do they support given that knowledge?

Why are Greenwald and a very small handful of others the only liberals yelling? This is the KEY! This tells us that something seriously wrong is involved. It&#039;s psychological and moral.  The moral is what I am focused on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I hope we can agree that people who support evil bear some responsibility for what they support. The more awareness they have, the more accountable they must be.</p>
<p>Now the question is how much should any reasonably intelligent liberal be expected to know?</p>
<p>There are dozens of subjects that they should realize are part of the big LIE because any cursory look at the reality demonstrates it (women don&#8217;t lie about rape, 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted on campus, boys are girls whenever they say so, Heinz 57 varieties of sexual identity, cops who save lives by shooting attempted murderers are racist, global warming, the gender pay gap, systemic racism, $15 min wage, etc.).</p>
<p>But beyond the Russia collusion and stolen election realities that are discussed in this thread, there are some that are so blatant anyone with a working brain understands them:</p>
<p>&#8212; They know that the BLM narrative about cops was a nasty, slanderous stereotype.  They know that the protests were violent. And they know that the insistence that they were peaceful is blatant BS.</p>
<p>&#8212; They know Antifa is not simply an idea.</p>
<p>&#8212; They know that censorship is wrong. And cancel culture even worse.  If they aren&#8217;t appalled at Big Tech and the news media by now, they are brain dead.</p>
<p>&#8212; They know that everyone who disagrees with them is not a racist, fascist, Nazi, white supremacist. And that white supremacy is not the nation&#8217;s biggest threat.  That the leaders of their party insist it is should scare the hell out of them. Normal people would be upset by this.  If GOP leaders were this nasty, vicious and blatantly wrong, every conservative on this thread would be screaming bloody murder. Why aren&#8217;t liberals? There is simply way too much of this garbage for any honest person to dismiss.  There is enough to presume they are on notice. Time for accountability. They know. What do they support given that knowledge?</p>
<p>Why are Greenwald and a very small handful of others the only liberals yelling? This is the KEY! This tells us that something seriously wrong is involved. It&#8217;s psychological and moral.  The moral is what I am focused on.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stan:

As I&#039;ve noted before - some on the left are evil, some are misguided and naive idealists, and many (the great majority of the non-activist non-leftists who enable and vote for the left in the guise of the Democratic Party) are &quot;useful idiots&quot; or simply kneejerk Democrat voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan:</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve noted before &#8211; some on the left are evil, some are misguided and naive idealists, and many (the great majority of the non-activist non-leftists who enable and vote for the left in the guise of the Democratic Party) are &#8220;useful idiots&#8221; or simply kneejerk Democrat voters.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That the Left is evil is a discussion I&#039;ve tried to have with Neo several times over the years. I agree with David Horowitz that you can&#039;t give liberals a pass. They are headed in the same direction and are motivated by the same instincts. They just want to get there a little slower. Those instincts are the source of the evil. It&#039;s the hubris. It&#039;s their belief that they are better, more deserving, smarter, entitled, anointed. Thomas Sowell has banged this drum for decades.

The twitter thread is bare bones. The rampant and relentless dishonesty of liberals goes way back. He could have added the lies underpinning Obamacare. Or the all-encompassing lies of Covid that shocked and appalled us leading up to the November election. Add Climategate -- global warming is a scam, the elites know it, but the opportunity for graft is too great to be honest. And another biggie -- the astonishing slanders and ugly stereotyping of BLM and riots. The elites/deep state/liberal machine lies about EVERYTHING!

The one thing about the stolen election which puzzles me is how little reference we see to the Democrats&#039; long sordid history of election fraud. They stole the presidency in 1960. They tried mightily again in Florida in 2000. For a good look at rampant, over-the-top fraud read the third volume of Caro&#039;s bio of LBJ about his 1948 theft of the senate seat.

We know that in 2020 federal indictments cited election fraud by four different election judges in Philly. And yet, we are supposed to believe that the fraudsters running that cess pool didn&#039;t cheat Trump. Yeah, sure. Democrats gave us four years of an obsessive campaign of insanity, corruption, slander, and criminality regarding DJT, but we are supposed to believe that they suddenly got scrupulously honest (for the first time in their history) in the election that gave them a chance to get rid of the hated Trump.  Sorry, but my understanding of human nature won&#039;t bend into a pretzel that tight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the Left is evil is a discussion I&#8217;ve tried to have with Neo several times over the years. I agree with David Horowitz that you can&#8217;t give liberals a pass. They are headed in the same direction and are motivated by the same instincts. They just want to get there a little slower. Those instincts are the source of the evil. It&#8217;s the hubris. It&#8217;s their belief that they are better, more deserving, smarter, entitled, anointed. Thomas Sowell has banged this drum for decades.</p>
<p>The twitter thread is bare bones. The rampant and relentless dishonesty of liberals goes way back. He could have added the lies underpinning Obamacare. Or the all-encompassing lies of Covid that shocked and appalled us leading up to the November election. Add Climategate &#8212; global warming is a scam, the elites know it, but the opportunity for graft is too great to be honest. And another biggie &#8212; the astonishing slanders and ugly stereotyping of BLM and riots. The elites/deep state/liberal machine lies about EVERYTHING!</p>
<p>The one thing about the stolen election which puzzles me is how little reference we see to the Democrats&#8217; long sordid history of election fraud. They stole the presidency in 1960. They tried mightily again in Florida in 2000. For a good look at rampant, over-the-top fraud read the third volume of Caro&#8217;s bio of LBJ about his 1948 theft of the senate seat.</p>
<p>We know that in 2020 federal indictments cited election fraud by four different election judges in Philly. And yet, we are supposed to believe that the fraudsters running that cess pool didn&#8217;t cheat Trump. Yeah, sure. Democrats gave us four years of an obsessive campaign of insanity, corruption, slander, and criminality regarding DJT, but we are supposed to believe that they suddenly got scrupulously honest (for the first time in their history) in the election that gave them a chance to get rid of the hated Trump.  Sorry, but my understanding of human nature won&#8217;t bend into a pretzel that tight.</p>
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