Back when the Same Sex Marriage Court Case was still undecided, I was commenting at Hot Air (under the old pre-Facebook regime). One of the SSM supporters was Jet Boy, who was generally an astute and entertaining commenter, and frequently provided insights on the SS* point of view.
His mantra was “If you don’t like gay marriages, don’t get one,” but at least he attempted to understand the opposing positions; however, he insisted that (as you say) “We just want to marry the person we love,” and all those awful things that religious conservatives were freaking out about would never happen.
After the lawsuits started taking aim at florists, bakers, wedding venues, etc. he apologized.

*As a matter of principle, I never use the debased adjective that has made it impossible to read some of the old literary classics to children, because when the stories reference happy, care-free people, the kids snicker or look embarrassed.
Sorry, not sorry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(film)

“Malik and Imani are a young black couple who move into a new house in the suburbs. When they arrive, they are greeted by a seemingly friendly white neighbor named Karen Drexler. However, this façade slowly reveals a bitter, jealous, angry, and racist woman who wants to remove the couple at any cost.”

Hilarious. Preening White Women thought they would come for them last. Well now it’s Last O’Clock.

https://gab.com/pen/posts/106542944575217868

“Whites engage in the NAXALT. They find one good example and erroneously project that onto the whole population.

Not-Whites do an opposite. They find one bad example and project that onto the whole population. But rather than being erroneous, they are malicious. As with Karen: one White woman acts inappropriately and now every White woman who speaks up is abused and silenced.”

Note for Boomers: NAXALT == Not All X Are Like That… But but but Muh Exception!

You may not be interested in Popular Culture, but Popular Culture and all those mysterious people who make all the funding and production decisions are most definitely Interested in You.

Sounds good to me!

Interesting riff on Tom and Daisy from Gatsby who hopped in their limo and left other people to deal with the problems.

I don’t worry about Techlead. His ex-wife is in the rearview. He’s made a decent bundle, if not the 5 mil he believes he needs to retire blissfully. He’s got a crazy-cool YouTube channel. Plus his parents are still alive. Not too shabby.

It’s clear he can learn, however Aspergy he may be. People will continue to be a problem, but as Tony Robbins once said about having reached a certain level of success — he can pull up to his problems in a limo, then deal with them.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/arrest-made-in-cobb-county-country-club-triple-murder

some 3$@@#^ pops a cap in you on the Back Nine.

But at least anyone can get into any country club now 😛

There goes my chance at standup season in the Catskills. Oh well.

The interesting question is has Techlead now finally Seen the Elephant or will he continue to over-analyse and focus on details rather than Big Picture? Time will tell.

The personality and skill-set which brought him wealth bears little relationship to that which is needed to manoeuvre in the world of people — many of whom are damaged, rapacious, or both. He’s got a long hard road ahead of him. The good thing is that he knows how to make money. That’s always a good start.

I had the ‘good fortune’ to go spectacularly bust in my late 20s and then painfully claw some of it back later. Seeing how the fairer sex behaved on the up, the down, and after the re-up kind of clued me in. Later on, the Big Bad Internet completed my radicalisation.

You definitely did the right thing, no matter how painful. Her having been SDS means you know she’s capable of anything so it’s best not to take a chance.

I’m not quite as autistic or as smart as Techlead, but will admit to being shall we say a Late Bloomer when it comes to self-awareness and having a clue when it comes to discussing politics (not that I display any of this newfound wisdom *here*). I think my case not helped by having lived in Asia during nearly all of the last 30 years and not having been boiled slowly in the Pot of Woke. Anyway, being a bit slow about some things… took me a long time to figure out that my mentioning of commonplace facts about the world was not welcome with relatives and that I’d indelibly blotted the good behaviour copybook with these utterances. It’s sad, but simply cannot recant. Not that that would make much difference.

Zaphod:

I’m pretty much Techlead without a stable family and perhaps not as high an IQ.

If I had looked like a better catch — taller, more confident, etc. — I would probably have been married and divorced similarly. I count that as my luck. God knows, my mother was not so kind to my father. I’ve read my share of red pill stuff. It resonates.

Today Techlead got to me viscerally.

During the Obama years I was visiting my sister for Christmas, as I had since the late 70s. During the evening news I made some mildly critical comments about Obama to my sister’s mother-in-law, who was elderly and on the way out. Still she made polite, old-school, “that’s interesting,” liberal responses. I wasn’t drunk, I wasn’t pounding the table nor pulling a revolver to punctuate what I said.

Next thing I knew my sister’s lesbian, ex-SDS partner was accusing me of endangering her mother’s life and I was required to leave the house ASAP in the middle of Christmas vacation. I retreated to the basement, but that that was not good enough either for Ms. SDS. I was required to acknowledge I needed to be punished then return chastened to the realm of Good People.

I managed a last-minute redeye ticket on New Year’s Eve and got the hell out of there. I’ve not been back since, which hurts my sister terribly, but I’m not entirely stupid.

My instinct is never to be under my sister’s partner’s roof again. Maybe I’m being paranoid, probably so. But I’m a conservative white male. Can I ever trust Ms. SDS not to wreak some Domestic Violence charge on me?

Polling data doesn’t mean anything. The UK Establishment has vast arsenal of legal and extra-legal tools for shutting down the Right for being ‘Extremists’ — as you know you can get arrested for reading excerpts from Winston Churchill in public today.

The Conservative Party of course conserves nothing. And how could it preserve Britishness. Have you seen a photo of their front bench lately?

There’s little point strategising at national election levels. People who are trying to do something like Mark Collett and Laura Towler are Unpersons in the UK and likely to end up behind bars in the near future. Current approach seems to be to try to build local communities and work from there. Very long hard slog ahead of them.

Today, however, he feels ’embarrassment and shame’ for the land of his birth [USA].

‘America used to be the ‘shining city on the hill’,’ he says ruefully. ‘I always contended that [America] was the answer. Now we are the problem.’

What worries him most is the impact of the ‘woke’ agenda and how it is promoting division, suppressing traditional liberties and undermining a shared sense of belonging which is vital for a multiracial society in the 21st century.

The resulting rise in identity politics — based on race, gender, religion or social background — makes it ‘impossible to govern and impossible to achieve a consensus’, he says.

In a landmark report for influential think- tank the Centre For Policy Studies (CPS), he has concluded that ‘wokeism’ and culture wars will, within 12 months, form the biggest dividing line in British politics and match the scale of the issue in the U.S +6

In a landmark report for influential think- tank the Centre For Policy Studies (CPS), he has concluded that ‘wokeism’ and culture wars will, within 12 months, form the biggest dividing line in British politics and match the scale of the issue in the U.S

He describes woke dogma as a modern form of ‘McCarthyism’ in the way it has ‘destroyed livelihoods, families and communities’.

And Luntz, 59, a committed Anglophile and contemporary of Boris Johnson at Oxford, warns that what is unfolding in America now is set to threaten the UK imminently.

In a landmark report for influential think- tank the Centre For Policy Studies (CPS), he has concluded that ‘wokeism’ and culture wars will, within 12 months, form the biggest dividing line in British politics and match the scale of the issue in the U.S.

‘The problem with woke and with cancel culture is that it is never done,’ he says. ‘The conflict and division never end. This is not what the people of the UK want but it’s coming anyway.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9770649/How-Left-bullied-Britain-going-woke.html

We’ve seen this, we know this. But what to do?

What I want to see disclosed and analyised are the comparative polling data, US vs UK.

Then, maybe, we can talk and strategize.
Right?