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		By: PGP		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/06/12/why-george-w-bush-didnt-support-trump-in-2020/#comment-2576817</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 09:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[W&#039;s one conservative achievement: Sam Alito. Which is one more conservative justice than DJT (&quot;Ya gotta vote for me, &#039;cause judges&quot;) managed to appoint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W&#8217;s one conservative achievement: Sam Alito. Which is one more conservative justice than DJT (&#8220;Ya gotta vote for me, &#8217;cause judges&#8221;) managed to appoint.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who is this &quot;us&quot; you speak of.  It may not mean what you imagine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this &#8220;us&#8221; you speak of.  It may not mean what you imagine.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/06/12/why-george-w-bush-didnt-support-trump-in-2020/#comment-2559812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There aren’t any ‘frankly horrible’ regimes in the region other than the Alawite regime in Syria, which has been gelded for the time being.&quot;

Take down the Alawites and you&#039;re really going to reap the whirlwind.

By the time you geostrategic geniuses have finished us all off, we&#039;ll have to find a new quip for the poor stupid old Bourbons. The learned nothing and forgotten nothing quip applies far better to Neocons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There aren’t any ‘frankly horrible’ regimes in the region other than the Alawite regime in Syria, which has been gelded for the time being.&#8221;</p>
<p>Take down the Alawites and you&#8217;re really going to reap the whirlwind.</p>
<p>By the time you geostrategic geniuses have finished us all off, we&#8217;ll have to find a new quip for the poor stupid old Bourbons. The learned nothing and forgotten nothing quip applies far better to Neocons.</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art+Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;1 – “The human death and suffering was the work of the Iraqi insurgency and later ISIL.”The United States invaded Iraq. That makes us responsible for EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT. &lt;/i&gt;

An understanding of personal and collective agency is something that escapes you.  Cannot help you with that.  

&lt;i&gt;Seriously? Smashing Iraq did more to empower Iran in the region than anything Clinton and Obama did or Biden is likely to do. There was exactly 0% chance of any U.S/Iran military conflict before because Iraq was right there to deter any Iranian advances. Now, not only is the U.S. itself the major deterrent to Iran but it’s all but impossible to do anything to separate or distance the U.S. from the other frankly horrible regimes in the region.&lt;/i&gt;

No clue where you came by this fantastical notion of an objective alignment between the United States and Iraq, nor this notion that the United States is the only power which deters Iran.  With a 3-1 advantage in available manpower, Iran couldn&#039;t conquer one Iraqi province during the period running from 1980 to 1988.  What they can do is engage in subversion (which they&#039;ve been doing with scant interruption since 1979) and attempt to acquire weapons of mass destruction.  Well, you can see what they&#039;ve accomplished in the last 40 years.  

There aren&#039;t any &#039;frankly horrible&#039; regimes in the region other than the Alawite regime in Syria, which has been gelded for the time being.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>1 – “The human death and suffering was the work of the Iraqi insurgency and later ISIL.”The United States invaded Iraq. That makes us responsible for EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT. </i></p>
<p>An understanding of personal and collective agency is something that escapes you.  Cannot help you with that.  </p>
<p><i>Seriously? Smashing Iraq did more to empower Iran in the region than anything Clinton and Obama did or Biden is likely to do. There was exactly 0% chance of any U.S/Iran military conflict before because Iraq was right there to deter any Iranian advances. Now, not only is the U.S. itself the major deterrent to Iran but it’s all but impossible to do anything to separate or distance the U.S. from the other frankly horrible regimes in the region.</i></p>
<p>No clue where you came by this fantastical notion of an objective alignment between the United States and Iraq, nor this notion that the United States is the only power which deters Iran.  With a 3-1 advantage in available manpower, Iran couldn&#8217;t conquer one Iraqi province during the period running from 1980 to 1988.  What they can do is engage in subversion (which they&#8217;ve been doing with scant interruption since 1979) and attempt to acquire weapons of mass destruction.  Well, you can see what they&#8217;ve accomplished in the last 40 years.  </p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t any &#8216;frankly horrible&#8217; regimes in the region other than the Alawite regime in Syria, which has been gelded for the time being.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/06/12/why-george-w-bush-didnt-support-trump-in-2020/#comment-2559809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hah, Bunge and Can Do! on the same page.  

1.  GWB is responsible for Bunge&#039;s BDS too.  GWB made Trump kill that respected but severe Iranian Islamic scholar too (Solimini what&#039;s his name), and is responsible for BHO staying in Afghanistan and Trump not leaving Afghanistan either.  Where does GWB&#039;s perfidy end?  Wait for it .... it never does and never can.  LOL Bunge LOL.

2.  GWB is responsible for empowering Iran.  Pallets of cash and lifting of sanctions, who did that again?  Valerie Jared?  Who&#039;s she, one of GWB&#039;s minions?  Iranian hostage situation in 1979, must have been GWB at work?  Bombing Jews in Buenos Aries  must have been GWB at work.  Those post Shah Iranians have been just a peaceable pack of Persians for the longest time before GWB riled &#039;em up.

Do tell Bunge and zaphod.  Do tell. We can&#039;t make this up, but you can.   LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, Bunge and Can Do! on the same page.  </p>
<p>1.  GWB is responsible for Bunge&#8217;s BDS too.  GWB made Trump kill that respected but severe Iranian Islamic scholar too (Solimini what&#8217;s his name), and is responsible for BHO staying in Afghanistan and Trump not leaving Afghanistan either.  Where does GWB&#8217;s perfidy end?  Wait for it &#8230;. it never does and never can.  LOL Bunge LOL.</p>
<p>2.  GWB is responsible for empowering Iran.  Pallets of cash and lifting of sanctions, who did that again?  Valerie Jared?  Who&#8217;s she, one of GWB&#8217;s minions?  Iranian hostage situation in 1979, must have been GWB at work?  Bombing Jews in Buenos Aries  must have been GWB at work.  Those post Shah Iranians have been just a peaceable pack of Persians for the longest time before GWB riled &#8217;em up.</p>
<p>Do tell Bunge and zaphod.  Do tell. We can&#8217;t make this up, but you can.   LOL</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An Autistic Child, obviously. One accustomed to being sent to the back of the class to sit in the corner.

Meanwhile the Emperor parades again today setting ever new fashion trends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Autistic Child, obviously. One accustomed to being sent to the back of the class to sit in the corner.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Emperor parades again today setting ever new fashion trends.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/06/12/why-george-w-bush-didnt-support-trump-in-2020/#comment-2559804</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[^^ He&#039;s right. What he said.

But ignoring any moral considerations for a moment, there are two metrics for success:

(1) The USA does not benefit from endless enmeshment in nasty squabbles in a nasty part of the world full of nasty ancient hatreds.

(2) ____________________________

A child could fill in the blank. And Sesame Street has been brought to you by the Number 2 for so long now that perhaps we ought to reverse the numbering scheme.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ He&#8217;s right. What he said.</p>
<p>But ignoring any moral considerations for a moment, there are two metrics for success:</p>
<p>(1) The USA does not benefit from endless enmeshment in nasty squabbles in a nasty part of the world full of nasty ancient hatreds.</p>
<p>(2) ____________________________</p>
<p>A child could fill in the blank. And Sesame Street has been brought to you by the Number 2 for so long now that perhaps we ought to reverse the numbering scheme.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, Art, I&#039;d like to think you&#039;re smarter than this but you&#039;re working REALLY hard to convince me otherwise.


1 - &quot;The human death and suffering was the work of the Iraqi insurgency and later ISIL.&quot;

The United States invaded Iraq.  That makes us responsible for EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT.  Yes, that includes every awful thing done by insurgents and ISIL because they wouldn&#039;t have been able to do any of those things without the U.S. first smashing the existing military, political, and civic structure in Iraq.  Is the U.S. 100% responsible?  Of course not.  But you&#039;ve got to be morally and ethically retarded to believe you can invade a sovereign state, unleash mass death and destruction, and then pretend the misery and suffering which follows is someone else&#039;s fault.

2 - &quot;To just what ‘massive long-term foreign policy problems’ are you referring?&quot;

Seriously?  Smashing Iraq did more to empower Iran in the region than anything Clinton and Obama did or Biden is likely to do.  There was exactly 0% chance of any U.S/Iran military conflict before because Iraq was right there to deter any Iranian advances.  Now, not only is the U.S. itself the major deterrent to Iran but it&#039;s all but impossible to do anything to separate or distance the U.S. from the other frankly horrible regimes in the region.

There&#039;s a lot more, of course, but your obliviousness to such an obvious answer indicates there&#039;s not much use in going over it all.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Art, I&#8217;d like to think you&#8217;re smarter than this but you&#8217;re working REALLY hard to convince me otherwise.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; &#8220;The human death and suffering was the work of the Iraqi insurgency and later ISIL.&#8221;</p>
<p>The United States invaded Iraq.  That makes us responsible for EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT.  Yes, that includes every awful thing done by insurgents and ISIL because they wouldn&#8217;t have been able to do any of those things without the U.S. first smashing the existing military, political, and civic structure in Iraq.  Is the U.S. 100% responsible?  Of course not.  But you&#8217;ve got to be morally and ethically retarded to believe you can invade a sovereign state, unleash mass death and destruction, and then pretend the misery and suffering which follows is someone else&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; &#8220;To just what ‘massive long-term foreign policy problems’ are you referring?&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously?  Smashing Iraq did more to empower Iran in the region than anything Clinton and Obama did or Biden is likely to do.  There was exactly 0% chance of any U.S/Iran military conflict before because Iraq was right there to deter any Iranian advances.  Now, not only is the U.S. itself the major deterrent to Iran but it&#8217;s all but impossible to do anything to separate or distance the U.S. from the other frankly horrible regimes in the region.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more, of course, but your obliviousness to such an obvious answer indicates there&#8217;s not much use in going over it all.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@NeoConScum:

&quot;Trump, who.I voted twice for ain’t worth the manure on GWB’s boots.&quot;

Whilst your judgement appears to emanate from a point somewhat removed from the place between your ears, I&#039;m pleased to see that you at least understand the critical importance of what the Confucians call the Rectification of Names.

Carry on!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NeoConScum:</p>
<p>&#8220;Trump, who.I voted twice for ain’t worth the manure on GWB’s boots.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whilst your judgement appears to emanate from a point somewhat removed from the place between your ears, I&#8217;m pleased to see that you at least understand the critical importance of what the Confucians call the Rectification of Names.</p>
<p>Carry on!</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[McBungie: Often wrong. Never in doubt.

Po&#039;wittle twit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McBungie: Often wrong. Never in doubt.</p>
<p>Po&#8217;wittle twit.</p>
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