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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;They have been, there done that in northern Idaho, under Janet Reno.&lt;/i&gt;

IIRC, the Weaver debacle occurred under the previous administration, when Wm. Barr was attorney general and Wm. Sessions the FBI director.  The role of Louis Freeh and Janet Reno was to see to it that the perpetrators received no punishment.  

It was absolutely madcap to a degree Waco was not.  One guy, his wife and children, and a family friend, and they have a small army there to arrest him for failure-to-appear for a hearing on a weapons charge.  The weapons offense had been generated by an &lt;i&gt;agent provacateur&lt;/i&gt; to boot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They have been, there done that in northern Idaho, under Janet Reno.</i></p>
<p>IIRC, the Weaver debacle occurred under the previous administration, when Wm. Barr was attorney general and Wm. Sessions the FBI director.  The role of Louis Freeh and Janet Reno was to see to it that the perpetrators received no punishment.  </p>
<p>It was absolutely madcap to a degree Waco was not.  One guy, his wife and children, and a family friend, and they have a small army there to arrest him for failure-to-appear for a hearing on a weapons charge.  The weapons offense had been generated by an <i>agent provacateur</i> to boot.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 12:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They have been, there done that in northern Idaho, under Janet Reno.  Although it was a sawed off shotgun not a Browning Automatic Rifle that served as the pretext.  Vicki Weaver didn&#039;t get the  joke, but neither did Ashli Babbitt. 

&quot;White supremacy&quot; is very powerful after all and no joking matter.  It must be treated by those with a &quot;Can Do!&quot; mindset. (sarc)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been, there done that in northern Idaho, under Janet Reno.  Although it was a sawed off shotgun not a Browning Automatic Rifle that served as the pretext.  Vicki Weaver didn&#8217;t get the  joke, but neither did Ashli Babbitt. </p>
<p>&#8220;White supremacy&#8221; is very powerful after all and no joking matter.  It must be treated by those with a &#8220;Can Do!&#8221; mindset. (sarc)</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 12:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have visions of clean-cut, crew-cut, gentlemen in Ford Explorers wearing brand new Hawaiian Shirts and temporary tattoos stopping at back country gas stations in the PNW and asking &#039;Which way to the Homeland, Fellow White Person?&#039; -- Cue the &#039;Walks into a BAR&#039; jokes.

Wonder how many BARs could be out there in the wild irretrievably lost in boating accidents, burgled by Bears, ripped off by kleptomaniac Rocs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have visions of clean-cut, crew-cut, gentlemen in Ford Explorers wearing brand new Hawaiian Shirts and temporary tattoos stopping at back country gas stations in the PNW and asking &#8216;Which way to the Homeland, Fellow White Person?&#8217; &#8212; Cue the &#8216;Walks into a BAR&#8217; jokes.</p>
<p>Wonder how many BARs could be out there in the wild irretrievably lost in boating accidents, burgled by Bears, ripped off by kleptomaniac Rocs?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 11:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the Homeland...&quot;

Holy Globalism!!

The irony of ironies of course being that the USA MUST be protected from the Democratic Party.

(Which is, in turn, why the Democratic Party must obliterate all those who oppose its goal of achieving total power...even while they do their best to legislate fraudulent elections forever---this after their stellar &quot;performance&quot; last November....)

Hmmm. Getting a bit circular here. (Orwellian circularity--which is perfectly par for the course as far as totalitarian constructs go.)

Now that&#039;s a nice kettle &#039;a fish.... A pickle? 

FUBAR, actually... (though, one hopes without the BAR...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the Homeland&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy Globalism!!</p>
<p>The irony of ironies of course being that the USA MUST be protected from the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>(Which is, in turn, why the Democratic Party must obliterate all those who oppose its goal of achieving total power&#8230;even while they do their best to legislate fraudulent elections forever&#8212;this after their stellar &#8220;performance&#8221; last November&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Hmmm. Getting a bit circular here. (Orwellian circularity&#8211;which is perfectly par for the course as far as totalitarian constructs go.)</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s a nice kettle &#8216;a fish&#8230;. A pickle? </p>
<p>FUBAR, actually&#8230; (though, one hopes without the BAR&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 10:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Everytime a journalist starts to tell the truth, they are smeared. And while you, me, and most of your readrs are aware of this, the problem comes when we point to their stories as something our lefty acquaintances should read, or lefty acquaintances have already mentally filed that writer under “can’t trust that nutjob’s writing; they’re a nut job.” They’ve done that to Greenwood, Atkisson, Andy Ngo, et al.

Yep. The Woke Ascendancy gets to make all the Cancellations, De-Credentializations (just made that up), Sovereign Exceptions, etc. in the West because, well, They Rule.

Forget about playing Turn-About or Speaking Truth to Power (heh). Them&#039;s not for the likes of us.

There is no debating and probably even no populist demagogue-ing a way out of this situation. Which leaves...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everytime a journalist starts to tell the truth, they are smeared. And while you, me, and most of your readrs are aware of this, the problem comes when we point to their stories as something our lefty acquaintances should read, or lefty acquaintances have already mentally filed that writer under “can’t trust that nutjob’s writing; they’re a nut job.” They’ve done that to Greenwood, Atkisson, Andy Ngo, et al.</p>
<p>Yep. The Woke Ascendancy gets to make all the Cancellations, De-Credentializations (just made that up), Sovereign Exceptions, etc. in the West because, well, They Rule.</p>
<p>Forget about playing Turn-About or Speaking Truth to Power (heh). Them&#8217;s not for the likes of us.</p>
<p>There is no debating and probably even no populist demagogue-ing a way out of this situation. Which leaves&#8230;</p>
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		By: Lee Also		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Also]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 09:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glenn Greenwood had always bothered me because he makes me think more than I want. That is very valuable in a journalist. And for that reason, I have followed him for years. 

But like other excellent journalists, and when he doesn&#039;t your the lefty line, he gets smeared:
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/corporate-medias-double-standard

Sharyl Attkison was smeared as a paranoid nut job. Andy Ngo has been smeared. 

Everytime a journalist starts to tell the truth, they are smeared. And while you, me, and most of your readrs are aware of this, the problem comes when we point to their stories as something our lefty acquaintances should read, or lefty acquaintances  have already mentally filed that writer under &quot;can&#039;t trust that nutjob&#039;s writing; they&#039;re a nut job.&quot; They&#039;ve done that to Greenwood, Atkisson, Andy Ngo, et al.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Greenwood had always bothered me because he makes me think more than I want. That is very valuable in a journalist. And for that reason, I have followed him for years. </p>
<p>But like other excellent journalists, and when he doesn&#8217;t your the lefty line, he gets smeared:<br />
<a href="https://greenwald.substack.com/p/corporate-medias-double-standard" rel="nofollow ugc">https://greenwald.substack.com/p/corporate-medias-double-standard</a></p>
<p>Sharyl Attkison was smeared as a paranoid nut job. Andy Ngo has been smeared. </p>
<p>Everytime a journalist starts to tell the truth, they are smeared. And while you, me, and most of your readrs are aware of this, the problem comes when we point to their stories as something our lefty acquaintances should read, or lefty acquaintances  have already mentally filed that writer under &#8220;can&#8217;t trust that nutjob&#8217;s writing; they&#8217;re a nut job.&#8221; They&#8217;ve done that to Greenwood, Atkisson, Andy Ngo, et al.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 21:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Telemachus,

Though not a diplomat, I worked in contact with many U.S. Embassies around the world. In general (as you say, 90%) of the Foreign Service hold ordinary Americans in disdain.

Of course, I should point out that this is mostly true of all the diplomatic services of world. This elitism is not unique to the U.S. Government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telemachus,</p>
<p>Though not a diplomat, I worked in contact with many U.S. Embassies around the world. In general (as you say, 90%) of the Foreign Service hold ordinary Americans in disdain.</p>
<p>Of course, I should point out that this is mostly true of all the diplomatic services of world. This elitism is not unique to the U.S. Government.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 18:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan, 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;“Never,” an Iraqi transcript quotes him, “has [an Arab] political regime entered into a war with Israel or the United States and lost politically.”&lt;/i&gt; 

Thats because America hasn&#039;t fought to win a war since WWII. Nor Israel since 1948. To win a war you have to utterly destroy an enemy&#039;s ability to ever wage war again.


&lt;i&gt;&quot;To Neo [&#038;] everyone who comments on this blog I can assure you that 90% of my State Dept colleagues are more than happy to use their Top Secret clearances and insider knowledge to (at the least) silence you and make you understand your “place.”&lt;/i&gt;  Telemachus 

Sooner or later, fools playing with fire get burned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan, </p>
<p><i>&#8220;“Never,” an Iraqi transcript quotes him, “has [an Arab] political regime entered into a war with Israel or the United States and lost politically.”</i> </p>
<p>Thats because America hasn&#8217;t fought to win a war since WWII. Nor Israel since 1948. To win a war you have to utterly destroy an enemy&#8217;s ability to ever wage war again.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;To Neo [&amp;] everyone who comments on this blog I can assure you that 90% of my State Dept colleagues are more than happy to use their Top Secret clearances and insider knowledge to (at the least) silence you and make you understand your “place.”</i>  Telemachus </p>
<p>Sooner or later, fools playing with fire get burned.</p>
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		By: Telemachus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Telemachus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 10:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Fear is crucial for state authority. When the population is filled with it, they will acquiesce to virtually any power the government seeks to acquire in the name of keeping them safe. But when fear is lacking, citizens will crave liberty more than control, and that is when they question official claims and actions. When that starts to happen, when the public feels too secure, institutions of authority will reflexively find new ways to ensure they stay engulfed by fear and thus quiescent.&quot;

To me, this is the money quote. I work for the USG as a diplomat. I suppose one could say that I swim in the Deep State&#039;s fetid sewer, and have seen much of what Greenwald describes. To Neo everyone who comments on this blog I can assure you that 90% of my State Dept colleagues are more than happy to use their Top Secret clearances and insider knowledge to (at the least) silence you and make you understand your &quot;place.&quot; We receive cables and memos regularly meant to keep the fear (right now it&#039;s mostly covid-related) levels high. And the Dept&#039;s willingness to implement the Biden (Mal)Administration&#039;s lies grows stronger, not weaker, the longer it is power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fear is crucial for state authority. When the population is filled with it, they will acquiesce to virtually any power the government seeks to acquire in the name of keeping them safe. But when fear is lacking, citizens will crave liberty more than control, and that is when they question official claims and actions. When that starts to happen, when the public feels too secure, institutions of authority will reflexively find new ways to ensure they stay engulfed by fear and thus quiescent.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me, this is the money quote. I work for the USG as a diplomat. I suppose one could say that I swim in the Deep State&#8217;s fetid sewer, and have seen much of what Greenwald describes. To Neo everyone who comments on this blog I can assure you that 90% of my State Dept colleagues are more than happy to use their Top Secret clearances and insider knowledge to (at the least) silence you and make you understand your &#8220;place.&#8221; We receive cables and memos regularly meant to keep the fear (right now it&#8217;s mostly covid-related) levels high. And the Dept&#8217;s willingness to implement the Biden (Mal)Administration&#8217;s lies grows stronger, not weaker, the longer it is power.</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 08:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The term &quot;war on terror&quot; has become thoroughly Orwellian, as those prosecuting it are acting as enemies of the United States in undermining fundamental freedoms in their aggressive pursuit of American patriots. 

How vast are the legions of enemy agents in our government? They appear to be well over half of the federal bureaucracy. At this moment, the Pentagon is aggressively purging itself of those committed to defending the nation and its founding values. Having successfully defrauded a national election, the pretenders are hastily consolidating their conquest via greater and greater amplifications of dishonesty.

All of which has a negative karmic structure pointing in a negative direction. How negative? If the fraudsters had an inkling of where their chosen path leads, they would pray for forensic audits across the country to save them from their misdeeds. Regrettably, they are oversupplied with hatred, uninterested in truth, infatuated with the spoils of their deceit, and excited by what further theft will bring them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;war on terror&#8221; has become thoroughly Orwellian, as those prosecuting it are acting as enemies of the United States in undermining fundamental freedoms in their aggressive pursuit of American patriots. </p>
<p>How vast are the legions of enemy agents in our government? They appear to be well over half of the federal bureaucracy. At this moment, the Pentagon is aggressively purging itself of those committed to defending the nation and its founding values. Having successfully defrauded a national election, the pretenders are hastily consolidating their conquest via greater and greater amplifications of dishonesty.</p>
<p>All of which has a negative karmic structure pointing in a negative direction. How negative? If the fraudsters had an inkling of where their chosen path leads, they would pray for forensic audits across the country to save them from their misdeeds. Regrettably, they are oversupplied with hatred, uninterested in truth, infatuated with the spoils of their deceit, and excited by what further theft will bring them.</p>
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