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		By: John Fisher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Fisher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 19:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grandpagrumble,

Reasonable people can disagree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grandpagrumble,</p>
<p>Reasonable people can disagree.</p>
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		By: Richard+Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard+Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 19:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was FB&quot;wrong&quot;?  Or did they know better but lied for political reasons?  There were too many pieces of evidence piling up that should have meant the subject should be, at least, open. No. They knew they were covering up the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was FB&#8221;wrong&#8221;?  Or did they know better but lied for political reasons?  There were too many pieces of evidence piling up that should have meant the subject should be, at least, open. No. They knew they were covering up the truth.</p>
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		By: I am Spartacus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I am Spartacus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 15:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oceania is at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. &quot;

Our Ministry of Truth has spoken.  That is all.  Chilling how apropos Orwell was in &quot;1984&quot;.

&quot;A large part of the political literature of five years was now completely obsolete. Reports and records of all kinds, newspapers, books, pamphlets, films, sound tracks, photographs—all had to be rectified at lightning speed. Although no directive was ever issued, it was known that the chiefs of the Department intended that within one week no reference to the war with Eurasia, or the alliance with Eastasia, should remain in existence anywhere. The work was overwhelming, all the more so because the processes that it involved could not be called by their true names. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oceania is at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. &#8221;</p>
<p>Our Ministry of Truth has spoken.  That is all.  Chilling how apropos Orwell was in &#8220;1984&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;A large part of the political literature of five years was now completely obsolete. Reports and records of all kinds, newspapers, books, pamphlets, films, sound tracks, photographs—all had to be rectified at lightning speed. Although no directive was ever issued, it was known that the chiefs of the Department intended that within one week no reference to the war with Eurasia, or the alliance with Eastasia, should remain in existence anywhere. The work was overwhelming, all the more so because the processes that it involved could not be called by their true names. &#8220;</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are two stories in Neo&#039;s post, one of which is the behavior of Facebook and their ilk.

Boatbuilder on May 27, 2021 at 4:20 pm said:

&lt;i&gt;Has it occurred to the Facebookers that they were wrong then, they could be wrong now, there might be a few other major issues they are being lied to about, so maybe censorship is the wrong policy?
I know, stupid question.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s an obvious question Boatbuilder, not stupid, and it crystallizes the issue for me.  It&#039;s the arrogance of their ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two stories in Neo&#8217;s post, one of which is the behavior of Facebook and their ilk.</p>
<p>Boatbuilder on May 27, 2021 at 4:20 pm said:</p>
<p><i>Has it occurred to the Facebookers that they were wrong then, they could be wrong now, there might be a few other major issues they are being lied to about, so maybe censorship is the wrong policy?<br />
I know, stupid question.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s an obvious question Boatbuilder, not stupid, and it crystallizes the issue for me.  It&#8217;s the arrogance of their ignorance.</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 11:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll differ from our chorus of agreement.

The WHI report flagrant window dressing added nothing. This teen up Nicholas Wade to pounce.

Wade has a wide NYTimes Ruling Class base of readers from his long tenure there,  despite having been fired for his politically incorrect book on race, &quot;A Troublesome Inheritance.&quot;

Then the Leftist Bulletin of Atomic Scientists ran with it. And finally, the Leftist news dude at the WSJ last Monday added facts to the story by documenting the Wuhan Virology Lab&#039;s three scientists hospitalized in November, 2919 with flu like symptoms.

Then the narrative route began, and as mentioned here, the news could ignore Xiden&#039;s crises and failures.

It all makes sense. It&#039;s fortuitous narrative management, as usual with the Left.

Facts and real leadership be damned.

But I followed it&#039;s genesis, and saw it unfold conveniently as Zaphod does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll differ from our chorus of agreement.</p>
<p>The WHI report flagrant window dressing added nothing. This teen up Nicholas Wade to pounce.</p>
<p>Wade has a wide NYTimes Ruling Class base of readers from his long tenure there,  despite having been fired for his politically incorrect book on race, &#8220;A Troublesome Inheritance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then the Leftist Bulletin of Atomic Scientists ran with it. And finally, the Leftist news dude at the WSJ last Monday added facts to the story by documenting the Wuhan Virology Lab&#8217;s three scientists hospitalized in November, 2919 with flu like symptoms.</p>
<p>Then the narrative route began, and as mentioned here, the news could ignore Xiden&#8217;s crises and failures.</p>
<p>It all makes sense. It&#8217;s fortuitous narrative management, as usual with the Left.</p>
<p>Facts and real leadership be damned.</p>
<p>But I followed it&#8217;s genesis, and saw it unfold conveniently as Zaphod does.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 05:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Accidental lab leak smells of limited-modified-hangout.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accidental lab leak smells of limited-modified-hangout.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 05:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curtis Yarvin has just posted his thoughts on this subject:

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-self-licking-napalm-ice-cream

“Chernobyl goes straight to the top. If I wink and nod and tell little Johnny to carry on with his arson experiments, maybe even bringing him a plate of mac-and-cheese while he works out the worst place someone could just leave a magnifying glass lying around, isn’t it I too who am the arsonist?

When we let virology be managed by the virologists, it’s obvious why these three types of dysfunctional science prosper in the virology marketplace of ideas. Stamp collecting creates work for scientists. A self-licking ice-cream cone rationalizes its own funding. And playing with fire gets everyone’s attention.

But who else would manage the virologists—or could?

If you’re a thoughtful person, as I’m sure you are, your favorite kind of question is the question for which you have no answer. Thinking about such questions is thinking. Thinking about any other kind of question is not thinking, just shouting at yourself.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis Yarvin has just posted his thoughts on this subject:</p>
<p><a href="https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-self-licking-napalm-ice-cream" rel="nofollow ugc">https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-self-licking-napalm-ice-cream</a></p>
<p>“Chernobyl goes straight to the top. If I wink and nod and tell little Johnny to carry on with his arson experiments, maybe even bringing him a plate of mac-and-cheese while he works out the worst place someone could just leave a magnifying glass lying around, isn’t it I too who am the arsonist?</p>
<p>When we let virology be managed by the virologists, it’s obvious why these three types of dysfunctional science prosper in the virology marketplace of ideas. Stamp collecting creates work for scientists. A self-licking ice-cream cone rationalizes its own funding. And playing with fire gets everyone’s attention.</p>
<p>But who else would manage the virologists—or could?</p>
<p>If you’re a thoughtful person, as I’m sure you are, your favorite kind of question is the question for which you have no answer. Thinking about such questions is thinking. Thinking about any other kind of question is not thinking, just shouting at yourself.”</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 02:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod:

Such an expansive mental picture for such a small insult, much less a &quot;joke.&quot;  It was another example of a &quot;Zaphod point.&quot;  Can Do, Zaphod, Can Do.  Shill for the CCP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod:</p>
<p>Such an expansive mental picture for such a small insult, much less a &#8220;joke.&#8221;  It was another example of a &#8220;Zaphod point.&#8221;  Can Do, Zaphod, Can Do.  Shill for the CCP.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 01:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s all just a giant gas light.&quot;

They&#039;re pushing the UFO Revelations thing recently, too. Keep the Proles riled up, distracted, and paying no attention to US/Western Elite Malfeasance and Incompetence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s all just a giant gas light.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re pushing the UFO Revelations thing recently, too. Keep the Proles riled up, distracted, and paying no attention to US/Western Elite Malfeasance and Incompetence.</p>
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		By: Josh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s all just a giant gas light.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s all just a giant gas light.</p>
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