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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 06:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Classical Marxism is about the state controlled economy and central planning, premised on Hegelian infused “scientific history.” Lenin dressed up economics historicism, hence communism is true socialism, and anything less isn’t.

Today’s neoMarxism or Born Again Marxism eschews historical forces and inevitability for simplistic oppositional dogma of oppressor versus oppressed.

This ludicrous presentism is what boggles my mind. Childish, infantile, and narcissistic in the extreme — it lacks any ambitions or romance formerly found attractive in classical Marxism. 

And it’s war against excellence and hierarchies is only further proof of inainity, opportunistically infusing PoMo lies into the metaphysics of pablum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classical Marxism is about the state controlled economy and central planning, premised on Hegelian infused “scientific history.” Lenin dressed up economics historicism, hence communism is true socialism, and anything less isn’t.</p>
<p>Today’s neoMarxism or Born Again Marxism eschews historical forces and inevitability for simplistic oppositional dogma of oppressor versus oppressed.</p>
<p>This ludicrous presentism is what boggles my mind. Childish, infantile, and narcissistic in the extreme — it lacks any ambitions or romance formerly found attractive in classical Marxism. </p>
<p>And it’s war against excellence and hierarchies is only further proof of inainity, opportunistically infusing PoMo lies into the metaphysics of pablum.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/17/open-thread-5-17-21/#comment-2555684</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

No, it&#039;s not the only kind of Marxism there is &lt;i&gt;today&lt;/i&gt;.  I know Marxists who call themselves Marxists (particularly in academia) who espouse various refinements on Marxism that change some of the original premises.  Just to take one example, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;there&#039;s this&lt;/a&gt;, as opposed to what might be called &lt;i&gt;orthodox&lt;/i&gt; Marxism (what I called &quot;classical Marxism&quot; in my comment).  It all falls under the general heading of &quot;Marxism,&quot; a word I actually don&#039;t prefer to use.  I prefer &quot;leftism&quot; or &quot;far-leftism&quot; because it covers a lot more.

There&#039;s a reason some of the founders of BLM called themselves &quot;trained Marxists,&quot; though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not the only kind of Marxism there is <i>today</i>.  I know Marxists who call themselves Marxists (particularly in academia) who espouse various refinements on Marxism that change some of the original premises.  Just to take one example, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism" rel="nofollow ugc">there&#8217;s this</a>, as opposed to what might be called <i>orthodox</i> Marxism (what I called &#8220;classical Marxism&#8221; in my comment).  It all falls under the general heading of &#8220;Marxism,&#8221; a word I actually don&#8217;t prefer to use.  I prefer &#8220;leftism&#8221; or &#8220;far-leftism&#8221; because it covers a lot more.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason some of the founders of BLM called themselves &#8220;trained Marxists,&#8221; though.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 13:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Art+Deco:

Still in good form, I see.

You haven&#039;t taken exception to the Slime Mold article yet:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n10/francis-gooding/from-its-myriad-tips

Go on... Be a Fun Guy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Art+Deco:</p>
<p>Still in good form, I see.</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t taken exception to the Slime Mold article yet:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n10/francis-gooding/from-its-myriad-tips" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n10/francis-gooding/from-its-myriad-tips</a></p>
<p>Go on&#8230; Be a Fun Guy!</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/17/open-thread-5-17-21/#comment-2555647</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 10:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; First of all, of course it’s not classic, historical Marxism, &lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s the only kind of Marxism there is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> First of all, of course it’s not classic, historical Marxism, </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only kind of Marxism there is.</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/17/open-thread-5-17-21/#comment-2555646</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 10:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Travis Brown views this as a poisonous cult like the Christian fundamentalism he left. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;You’ll find no greater fan of the Blame the Puritan Strain than me.&lt;/i&gt;


You people are hopeless.  You can&#039;t manage to assess this without insulting someone else, in these cases, someone quite dissimilar to the creatures under review here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Travis Brown views this as a poisonous cult like the Christian fundamentalism he left. </i></p>
<p><i>You’ll find no greater fan of the Blame the Puritan Strain than me.</i></p>
<p>You people are hopeless.  You can&#8217;t manage to assess this without insulting someone else, in these cases, someone quite dissimilar to the creatures under review here.</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 10:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Over time I adjusted, but those initial months slamming into this alternative reality was what started me down the road to biological realism. Every day I was interacting with people who lived in frosty white neighborhoods, often 100 percent white, yet they were sure that white people who lived, worked, and mingled with other races around the country were raging bigots. Their views on race was a puzzling religion that had no basis in reality.&lt;/i&gt;

The phenomenon he&#039;s describing has zip to do with biology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Over time I adjusted, but those initial months slamming into this alternative reality was what started me down the road to biological realism. Every day I was interacting with people who lived in frosty white neighborhoods, often 100 percent white, yet they were sure that white people who lived, worked, and mingled with other races around the country were raging bigots. Their views on race was a puzzling religion that had no basis in reality.</i></p>
<p>The phenomenon he&#8217;s describing has zip to do with biology.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/17/open-thread-5-17-21/#comment-2555632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 04:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, Thank for the correction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, Thank for the correction.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/17/open-thread-5-17-21/#comment-2555624</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 03:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is way cool. We can replace most of our Credentialed Elites with Slime Mold:

https://twitter.com/AlampayDavis/status/1394067139947081736

Follow the Twitter excerpt through to the original article. It&#039;s fascinating.

All part of the service, Folks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way cool. We can replace most of our Credentialed Elites with Slime Mold:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/AlampayDavis/status/1394067139947081736" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/AlampayDavis/status/1394067139947081736</a></p>
<p>Follow the Twitter excerpt through to the original article. It&#8217;s fascinating.</p>
<p>All part of the service, Folks.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 02:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stolen from a comment thread elsewhere:

&quot;...can we all agree that the official state religion of America In Name Only should be called “Dinduism”? It’s got a caste system and everything — we’re the Dalits.&quot;

For any Normies of Good Will present here today, a &#039;Dindu&#039; is one of your Magical Black Shamans. Named thusly because are often heard to utter the word &#039;Dindu&#039; when approached by the Polizei: &quot;I dindu that!&quot;

And sure enough, turns out that they Dindu That, and even if they Done Did Du That, it&#039;s your fault anyway, you Horrid Bad White (tm) Untouchable!

Description of the remainder of the Caste System as currently instituted is left as an Exercise for the Reader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stolen from a comment thread elsewhere:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;can we all agree that the official state religion of America In Name Only should be called “Dinduism”? It’s got a caste system and everything — we’re the Dalits.&#8221;</p>
<p>For any Normies of Good Will present here today, a &#8216;Dindu&#8217; is one of your Magical Black Shamans. Named thusly because are often heard to utter the word &#8216;Dindu&#8217; when approached by the Polizei: &#8220;I dindu that!&#8221;</p>
<p>And sure enough, turns out that they Dindu That, and even if they Done Did Du That, it&#8217;s your fault anyway, you Horrid Bad White &#8482; Untouchable!</p>
<p>Description of the remainder of the Caste System as currently instituted is left as an Exercise for the Reader.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 02:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The US Supreme Court reached a decision today, Caniglia v. Strom.  It is such an important decision, that almost no one reported on it.  The crux of it is that the police may manage the safety and proper functioning of things like cars and freeways, without warrants, but may not act similarly (confiscating firearms) with regard to a person&#039;s home.  Warrantless searches and seizures are still forbidden, in the home.

So what?  Well, the SCOTUS held that Mr. Caniglia&#039;s rights were violated, by a vote of 9 - 0; but only after two other courts found in favor of the police.  Should we feel good that the SCOTUS is still capable of doing the right thing, or depressed that two other courts could not figure that out?

While police departments vary, many have no mechanism for returning confiscated firearms without the owner filing a lawsuit in court.

https://www.streetlaw.org/scotus-in-the-classroom/caniglia-v-strom
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-157_8mjp.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Supreme Court reached a decision today, Caniglia v. Strom.  It is such an important decision, that almost no one reported on it.  The crux of it is that the police may manage the safety and proper functioning of things like cars and freeways, without warrants, but may not act similarly (confiscating firearms) with regard to a person&#8217;s home.  Warrantless searches and seizures are still forbidden, in the home.</p>
<p>So what?  Well, the SCOTUS held that Mr. Caniglia&#8217;s rights were violated, by a vote of 9 &#8211; 0; but only after two other courts found in favor of the police.  Should we feel good that the SCOTUS is still capable of doing the right thing, or depressed that two other courts could not figure that out?</p>
<p>While police departments vary, many have no mechanism for returning confiscated firearms without the owner filing a lawsuit in court.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.streetlaw.org/scotus-in-the-classroom/caniglia-v-strom" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.streetlaw.org/scotus-in-the-classroom/caniglia-v-strom</a><br />
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-157_8mjp.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-157_8mjp.pdf</a></p>
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