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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/12/liz-cheney-removed-from-house-gop-conference-leadership-position/#comment-2555264</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 23:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Byron York:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-the-gop-is-bigger-than-trump
&lt;blockquote&gt;Cheney is trying to jump in front of the parade and pretend she&#039;s leading it. The fact is, the world of politics is moving away from Donald Trump, not toward him. Republicans Ron DeSantis, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, Mike Pence, Kristi Noem, and many others are gearing up to run for president. They are looking ahead. They do not share Cheney&#039;s fixation with the 2020 election, which is receding into the past even if Cheney cannot stop talking about it.

Trump will certainly remain an influential figure in the Republican Party. He will spend the coming months teasing a possible third run for president in 2024, when he will be 78 years old. But there is a big battle going on in Washington right now, one that is commanding the attention of Republican leaders and voters. Joe Biden, Democratic lawmakers, and left-wing activist groups are seeking to turn the flimsiest of congressional majorities into New Deal- and Great Society-style change. Republicans are increasingly consumed with stopping them. They&#039;re moving forward, not backward. And that won&#039;t change.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron York:<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-the-gop-is-bigger-than-trump" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-the-gop-is-bigger-than-trump</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Cheney is trying to jump in front of the parade and pretend she&#8217;s leading it. The fact is, the world of politics is moving away from Donald Trump, not toward him. Republicans Ron DeSantis, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, Mike Pence, Kristi Noem, and many others are gearing up to run for president. They are looking ahead. They do not share Cheney&#8217;s fixation with the 2020 election, which is receding into the past even if Cheney cannot stop talking about it.</p>
<p>Trump will certainly remain an influential figure in the Republican Party. He will spend the coming months teasing a possible third run for president in 2024, when he will be 78 years old. But there is a big battle going on in Washington right now, one that is commanding the attention of Republican leaders and voters. Joe Biden, Democratic lawmakers, and left-wing activist groups are seeking to turn the flimsiest of congressional majorities into New Deal- and Great Society-style change. Republicans are increasingly consumed with stopping them. They&#8217;re moving forward, not backward. And that won&#8217;t change.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/12/liz-cheney-removed-from-house-gop-conference-leadership-position/#comment-2555259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For any readers not grokking my comment above:
https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/10/03/a-video-message-from-president-trump-in-walter-reed/#comment-2518040

Also:
If Dick Cheney is Darth, does that mean Liz is Leia?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any readers not grokking my comment above:<br />
<a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/10/03/a-video-message-from-president-trump-in-walter-reed/#comment-2518040" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/10/03/a-video-message-from-president-trump-in-walter-reed/#comment-2518040</a></p>
<p>Also:<br />
If Dick Cheney is Darth, does that mean Liz is Leia?</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/12/liz-cheney-removed-from-house-gop-conference-leadership-position/#comment-2555250</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 21:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;How do you win more than 50% of the vote without a unifying figure?&lt;/i&gt;

Apparently the Democrats have figured out how to do it.  There is nothing &quot;unifying&quot; about this Biden crack about &quot;Neanderthals.&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://issuesinsights.com/2021/05/11/when-will-biden-apologize-for-his-neanderthal-smear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;When Will Biden Apologize For His ‘Neanderthal’ Smear?&lt;/a&gt;   
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; “The last thing – the last thing – we need is the Neanderthal thinking that in the meantime, everything’s fine, take off your mask,” said Biden, whose cerebral activity has failed to live up to his lifetime of flap-jawed bragging about his intelligence.

“The last thing – the last thing – we need is the Neanderthal thinking that in the meantime, everything’s fine, take off your mask,” said Biden, whose cerebral activity has failed to live up to his lifetime of flap-jawed bragging about his intelligence.
  &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How do you win more than 50% of the vote without a unifying figure?</i></p>
<p>Apparently the Democrats have figured out how to do it.  There is nothing &#8220;unifying&#8221; about this Biden crack about &#8220;Neanderthals.&#8221;<a href="https://issuesinsights.com/2021/05/11/when-will-biden-apologize-for-his-neanderthal-smear/" rel="nofollow ugc">When Will Biden Apologize For His ‘Neanderthal’ Smear?</a>   </p>
<blockquote><p><i> “The last thing – the last thing – we need is the Neanderthal thinking that in the meantime, everything’s fine, take off your mask,” said Biden, whose cerebral activity has failed to live up to his lifetime of flap-jawed bragging about his intelligence.</p>
<p>“The last thing – the last thing – we need is the Neanderthal thinking that in the meantime, everything’s fine, take off your mask,” said Biden, whose cerebral activity has failed to live up to his lifetime of flap-jawed bragging about his intelligence.<br />
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The question is why you believe a second Trump presidency would leave us in any better position?&quot;


Because Trump in defeat still left us with GOP gains in the House and likely would have had a GOP-controlled Senate if McConnell didn&#039;t shoot down $2,000 stimulus checks.  And, in case you haven&#039;t noticed, we&#039;ve got a GOP that is far more willing to fight for its voters.

When George W. Bush left office, we had Democrats gaining 21 seats to keep control of the House, gaining 8 seats to keep control of the Senate, and Barack Obama in the White House.  And that was facing not-even half the opposition Trump had to battle.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The question is why you believe a second Trump presidency would leave us in any better position?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because Trump in defeat still left us with GOP gains in the House and likely would have had a GOP-controlled Senate if McConnell didn&#8217;t shoot down $2,000 stimulus checks.  And, in case you haven&#8217;t noticed, we&#8217;ve got a GOP that is far more willing to fight for its voters.</p>
<p>When George W. Bush left office, we had Democrats gaining 21 seats to keep control of the House, gaining 8 seats to keep control of the Senate, and Barack Obama in the White House.  And that was facing not-even half the opposition Trump had to battle.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art+Deco – Your argument also works just as well to justify running a Bush/Romney/McCain figure again. &lt;/i&gt;

When you can state my argument accurately, get back to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art+Deco – Your argument also works just as well to justify running a Bush/Romney/McCain figure again. </i></p>
<p>When you can state my argument accurately, get back to me.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 13:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is Bauxite insane? Fixated? Mittens and The Maverick were loosers, and one is a dead man walking politically; sort of like Liz.  Or does the GOPe(extinct) have end stage political syphilis; insane too? Spent too much time in bed with the K Street and Chamber of Commerce harlots.  

Insane or not, bless Bauxite, such a sweet child.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Bauxite insane? Fixated? Mittens and The Maverick were loosers, and one is a dead man walking politically; sort of like Liz.  Or does the GOPe(extinct) have end stage political syphilis; insane too? Spent too much time in bed with the K Street and Chamber of Commerce harlots.  </p>
<p>Insane or not, bless Bauxite, such a sweet child.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 12:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art+Deco - Your argument also works just as well to justify running a Bush/Romney/McCain figure again. We&#039;ve tried honorable gentleman candidates, and that didn&#039;t work. Now we&#039;ve tried a boorish fighter, and aside from a fluke in 2016, that didn&#039;t work either. 

A popular definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art+Deco &#8211; Your argument also works just as well to justify running a Bush/Romney/McCain figure again. We&#8217;ve tried honorable gentleman candidates, and that didn&#8217;t work. Now we&#8217;ve tried a boorish fighter, and aside from a fluke in 2016, that didn&#8217;t work either. </p>
<p>A popular definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/12/liz-cheney-removed-from-house-gop-conference-leadership-position/#comment-2555175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 06:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The story isn&#039;t as good as some at the Bee, but the headline is priceless.
https://babylonbee.com/news/dick-cheney-invites-trump-on-reconciliatory-hunting-trip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story isn&#8217;t as good as some at the Bee, but the headline is priceless.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/dick-cheney-invites-trump-on-reconciliatory-hunting-trip" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/dick-cheney-invites-trump-on-reconciliatory-hunting-trip</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/05/12/liz-cheney-removed-from-house-gop-conference-leadership-position/#comment-2555131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2021 23:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although I have read most of Lewis&#039;s books multiple time, I only made it through Pilgrim once, and so I didn&#039;t recognize the quote and had to go looking.
But it is good to go on back in time to the insights of Mr. Lewis, who saw what was further along the road the Western Humanists were trudging down with mad abandon.

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/975268-the-pilgrim-s-regress-an-allegorical-apology-for-christianity-reason-an]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I have read most of Lewis&#8217;s books multiple time, I only made it through Pilgrim once, and so I didn&#8217;t recognize the quote and had to go looking.<br />
But it is good to go on back in time to the insights of Mr. Lewis, who saw what was further along the road the Western Humanists were trudging down with mad abandon.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/975268-the-pilgrim-s-regress-an-allegorical-apology-for-christianity-reason-an" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/975268-the-pilgrim-s-regress-an-allegorical-apology-for-christianity-reason-an</a></p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2021 23:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan on May 13, 2021 at 6:16 pm said:	

&lt;blockquote&gt;DNW’s literary quotation sent me on a Hunt, which became quite extended, and that is why I am up until the wee hours every night, chasing Rabbits through the Internet Warrens.

That one was from CS Lewis, The Pilgrim’s Regress.
Which DNW quoted in the comments here:
https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2016/10/goodbye-scp.html&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I had first come across Lewis during an argument which I as a college age kid, was having with a Protestant Evangelical. I don&#039;t recall the specific dispute, but as a long lapsed congregant myself, I was probably challenging him to provide a coherent doctrine of essential Christianity. He recommended some book or another. Probably, &quot;Mere Christianity&quot;

I have to admit that as with most of his works what appeals to me is his reasoning; and in fiction, his ability to draw impressive crystalline sketches, of people, their psychologies, and environments. His poetry is as dead to me as any other poet&#039;s.

Not that I had a substitute belief system at that time. And certainly not either socialism or atheistic humanism, both of which struck me as beneath contempt and fit only for emotion driven lower forms of human-like life incapable of logical analysis. I had read Marx extensively and recognized that his anti-metaphysical metaphysics contained nothing in it that would lead one to assume that there was any characteristic of the consciousness of the inorganic body, that immunized any example of it being cut down for convenience any more than it did an offending tree, or shrub.

And of course, that is just how communists have in fact acted.

Anyway, although Lewis&#039; critical insights on ethics didn&#039;t do me much good in real philosophy class, his main critical point concerning the habit of progressives&#039; studiously ignoring the redounding effects of their announced premisses on their own value statements, resonated with what I had already perceived. Some simply call it &quot;hypocrisy&quot;; but, there is a philosophico-psychological phenomenon there which is anthropologically interesting, and perhaps indicative as well, there too.

So, years after having left school and digested what appeared to me the complete Lewis corpus, minus the children&#039;s stories and his main academic opus, I stumbled upon &quot;A Pilgrim&#039;s Regress&quot; while on an AMTDA-NTMA business trip to San Fran.

It was in a book shop window, an aging and sun scorched paperback laying there flat as I was passing by coffee in hand sweet rolls in a bag, back to the Fairmont, that Sunday morning.

My current understanding is that it is considered to be one of his lesser works by a considerable margin. But what grabbed me, was that half the theme - and for me the main interest - is concerned with precisely the self-de-legitimizing or antinomy problems I just mentioned.

Some liberals, like my favorite target Richard Rorty, are willing to admit that their theories of meaning and truth have undercut any principled imperative claims which they themselves might make of the tolerance or forbearance of others.

Rorty admits that he really can offer up no metaphysically commanding reason why you should not just kill him if you feel like it. He admits that progressive &quot;democracy&quot; is just a taste with him.

But most liberals are not quite there yet. They still rely on the rhetorical deployment of general principles which they have otherwise &quot;debunked&quot;, for their own protection.

It is probably the great theme of our age.

https://archive.org/stream/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis_djvu.txt

http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/Pilgrims_Regress_CSL.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan on May 13, 2021 at 6:16 pm said:	</p>
<blockquote><p>DNW’s literary quotation sent me on a Hunt, which became quite extended, and that is why I am up until the wee hours every night, chasing Rabbits through the Internet Warrens.</p>
<p>That one was from CS Lewis, The Pilgrim’s Regress.<br />
Which DNW quoted in the comments here:<br />
<a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2016/10/goodbye-scp.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2016/10/goodbye-scp.html</a>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>I had first come across Lewis during an argument which I as a college age kid, was having with a Protestant Evangelical. I don&#8217;t recall the specific dispute, but as a long lapsed congregant myself, I was probably challenging him to provide a coherent doctrine of essential Christianity. He recommended some book or another. Probably, &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to admit that as with most of his works what appeals to me is his reasoning; and in fiction, his ability to draw impressive crystalline sketches, of people, their psychologies, and environments. His poetry is as dead to me as any other poet&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Not that I had a substitute belief system at that time. And certainly not either socialism or atheistic humanism, both of which struck me as beneath contempt and fit only for emotion driven lower forms of human-like life incapable of logical analysis. I had read Marx extensively and recognized that his anti-metaphysical metaphysics contained nothing in it that would lead one to assume that there was any characteristic of the consciousness of the inorganic body, that immunized any example of it being cut down for convenience any more than it did an offending tree, or shrub.</p>
<p>And of course, that is just how communists have in fact acted.</p>
<p>Anyway, although Lewis&#8217; critical insights on ethics didn&#8217;t do me much good in real philosophy class, his main critical point concerning the habit of progressives&#8217; studiously ignoring the redounding effects of their announced premisses on their own value statements, resonated with what I had already perceived. Some simply call it &#8220;hypocrisy&#8221;; but, there is a philosophico-psychological phenomenon there which is anthropologically interesting, and perhaps indicative as well, there too.</p>
<p>So, years after having left school and digested what appeared to me the complete Lewis corpus, minus the children&#8217;s stories and his main academic opus, I stumbled upon &#8220;A Pilgrim&#8217;s Regress&#8221; while on an AMTDA-NTMA business trip to San Fran.</p>
<p>It was in a book shop window, an aging and sun scorched paperback laying there flat as I was passing by coffee in hand sweet rolls in a bag, back to the Fairmont, that Sunday morning.</p>
<p>My current understanding is that it is considered to be one of his lesser works by a considerable margin. But what grabbed me, was that half the theme &#8211; and for me the main interest &#8211; is concerned with precisely the self-de-legitimizing or antinomy problems I just mentioned.</p>
<p>Some liberals, like my favorite target Richard Rorty, are willing to admit that their theories of meaning and truth have undercut any principled imperative claims which they themselves might make of the tolerance or forbearance of others.</p>
<p>Rorty admits that he really can offer up no metaphysically commanding reason why you should not just kill him if you feel like it. He admits that progressive &#8220;democracy&#8221; is just a taste with him.</p>
<p>But most liberals are not quite there yet. They still rely on the rhetorical deployment of general principles which they have otherwise &#8220;debunked&#8221;, for their own protection.</p>
<p>It is probably the great theme of our age.</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/stream/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis_djvu.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.org/stream/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis/pilgrims-regress-cs-lewis_djvu.txt</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/Pilgrims_Regress_CSL.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/Pilgrims_Regress_CSL.pdf</a></p>
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