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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 07:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Historian David Starkey giving a presentation about what has been learned from the Year of the Plague and answering questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_ehhV3amk

I don&#039;t always agree with him (Ex Quaker, Homo, and pro-immigration, so that&#039;s unsurprising) but his description of what went wrong in the UK in the past year is incisive and to the point.

More scary than anything are some of the utterly missing the point and fatuous questions asked by his audience at the end. Jaysus wept!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historian David Starkey giving a presentation about what has been learned from the Year of the Plague and answering questions.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_ehhV3amk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_ehhV3amk</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always agree with him (Ex Quaker, Homo, and pro-immigration, so that&#8217;s unsurprising) but his description of what went wrong in the UK in the past year is incisive and to the point.</p>
<p>More scary than anything are some of the utterly missing the point and fatuous questions asked by his audience at the end. Jaysus wept!</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 03:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Rufus &#038; Jack:

It&#039;s always about your neighbours. The movie to watch is Jean de Florette :D

(As an aside, the most viciously jealous of others with even a mite more stuff person I know comes of good very current Piedmontese peasant stock.)

Now imagine what social media &#039;Influencers&#039; are doing to the happiness of the younger generations today.

Having had my racial rant for today in another thread, I&#039;m going to skip the obligatory Rene Girard Rant :D But it&#039;s relevant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rufus &amp; Jack:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always about your neighbours. The movie to watch is Jean de Florette 😀</p>
<p>(As an aside, the most viciously jealous of others with even a mite more stuff person I know comes of good very current Piedmontese peasant stock.)</p>
<p>Now imagine what social media &#8216;Influencers&#8217; are doing to the happiness of the younger generations today.</p>
<p>Having had my racial rant for today in another thread, I&#8217;m going to skip the obligatory Rene Girard Rant 😀 But it&#8217;s relevant.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 03:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It reminds of a statement from one of the characters in Herbert&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Dune&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;Mankind has only one science - the science of discontent.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It reminds of a statement from one of the characters in Herbert&#8217;s <i>Dune</i>: &#8220;Mankind has only one science &#8211; the science of discontent.&#8221;</p>
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		By: George Junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly

Thanks for the follow up. Interesting take with the childless women angle. I&#039;d hesitate to ascribe my friends&#039; attitudes and behavior to the fact that they are childless women in their late twenties. However, they are rather scathing of women their age who have children and they certainly despise the nuclear family.

I&#039;ll take a look at that documentary. Luckily, I&#039;m a generally happy individual who grew up within a happy and supportive extended family. For many of my friends, that was not the case and dealing with past family trauma is a real issue that continues to affect them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T. Firefly</p>
<p>Thanks for the follow up. Interesting take with the childless women angle. I&#8217;d hesitate to ascribe my friends&#8217; attitudes and behavior to the fact that they are childless women in their late twenties. However, they are rather scathing of women their age who have children and they certainly despise the nuclear family.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a look at that documentary. Luckily, I&#8217;m a generally happy individual who grew up within a happy and supportive extended family. For many of my friends, that was not the case and dealing with past family trauma is a real issue that continues to affect them.</p>
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		By: jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Rufus T. Firefly

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s how our income matches those around us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This I very much agree with. I&#039;ll give example. I grew up in a refinery town. In fact the whole area depended on the refineries. Your father either worked for a refinery or a business that was dependent on the refineries. The income of the whole area varied very little from family to family. Most people seemed to be happy. I was and I think most was also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rufus T. Firefly</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s how our income matches those around us.</p></blockquote>
<p>This I very much agree with. I&#8217;ll give example. I grew up in a refinery town. In fact the whole area depended on the refineries. Your father either worked for a refinery or a business that was dependent on the refineries. The income of the whole area varied very little from family to family. Most people seemed to be happy. I was and I think most was also.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/04/14/open-thread-4-14-21/#comment-2550569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 01:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Junior,

My wife and I are from fairly meager circumstances and grew up in blue collar environments but she and I were good students and studied and credentialed our ways into the white collar world. When we got to middle-age it astounded me how miserable everyone was (except us). Every party we&#039;d go to the men would cluster and complain about their jobs and/or investments and the women would cluster and complain about how unhappy they were. Most all the women openly talked about taking prescription medication for mood.

I really recommend this documentary, &quot;Happy.&quot; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613092

neo is the family psychology expert here, and she&#039;s likely to swoop in and correct all the ways I am about to completely botch this description, but the documentary tries to determine why some people (primarily family groups) are happy and others are not. One of the premises backed up by evidence is that we humans tend to judge our situation based on our surroundings. It&#039;s not specific, quantifiable things. It&#039;s not a specific income. It&#039;s how our income matches those around us. It&#039;s not a certain square foot home, or apartment, or yurt, it&#039;s how our housing compares with those around us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Junior,</p>
<p>My wife and I are from fairly meager circumstances and grew up in blue collar environments but she and I were good students and studied and credentialed our ways into the white collar world. When we got to middle-age it astounded me how miserable everyone was (except us). Every party we&#8217;d go to the men would cluster and complain about their jobs and/or investments and the women would cluster and complain about how unhappy they were. Most all the women openly talked about taking prescription medication for mood.</p>
<p>I really recommend this documentary, &#8220;Happy.&#8221; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613092" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613092</a></p>
<p>neo is the family psychology expert here, and she&#8217;s likely to swoop in and correct all the ways I am about to completely botch this description, but the documentary tries to determine why some people (primarily family groups) are happy and others are not. One of the premises backed up by evidence is that we humans tend to judge our situation based on our surroundings. It&#8217;s not specific, quantifiable things. It&#8217;s not a specific income. It&#8217;s how our income matches those around us. It&#8217;s not a certain square foot home, or apartment, or yurt, it&#8217;s how our housing compares with those around us.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/04/14/open-thread-4-14-21/#comment-2550568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 01:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Junior,

About two years ago I saw a comedian do a routine on crazy, childless, middle-aged women. His premise was they had missed the step in life where they were supposed to have children and so all that maternal instinct has to go somewhere and the environment, or feminism, or veganism or all of the above becomes their children. Instead of annoying moms boring you with stories about how brilliant their children are they are annoying non-moms boring you with stories about climate change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Junior,</p>
<p>About two years ago I saw a comedian do a routine on crazy, childless, middle-aged women. His premise was they had missed the step in life where they were supposed to have children and so all that maternal instinct has to go somewhere and the environment, or feminism, or veganism or all of the above becomes their children. Instead of annoying moms boring you with stories about how brilliant their children are they are annoying non-moms boring you with stories about climate change.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Add me to the list of neo readers who is awakened (way too early) each morning by a cat mimicking the video&#039;d lamb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add me to the list of neo readers who is awakened (way too early) each morning by a cat mimicking the video&#8217;d lamb.</p>
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		By: jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[woo hoo ... got a check from Uncle Joe today. Did taxes yesterday.

It&#039;s pretty much a wash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woo hoo &#8230; got a check from Uncle Joe today. Did taxes yesterday.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty much a wash.</p>
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		By: George Junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just saw a reference to a study from Pew Research which suggested &quot;Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue&quot;. I&#039;m still looking for the original study but in my friends group the percentage is much higher.
I&#039;m the only cisgendered, straight, white male in my circle which is composed largely of radical socialists of one type or another (btw I am not now nor have I ever been a socialist). Doing the math, about 80% of my close friends who are women suffer from some sort of anxiety disorder. I&#039;m not making that assessment, my friends talk openly about their diagnoses and the very real difficulties they face.
I&#039;ve always imagined my experience was unusual in this regard but the report on the Pew survey suggests I might be error. Food for thought, in any case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw a reference to a study from Pew Research which suggested &#8220;Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue&#8221;. I&#8217;m still looking for the original study but in my friends group the percentage is much higher.<br />
I&#8217;m the only cisgendered, straight, white male in my circle which is composed largely of radical socialists of one type or another (btw I am not now nor have I ever been a socialist). Doing the math, about 80% of my close friends who are women suffer from some sort of anxiety disorder. I&#8217;m not making that assessment, my friends talk openly about their diagnoses and the very real difficulties they face.<br />
I&#8217;ve always imagined my experience was unusual in this regard but the report on the Pew survey suggests I might be error. Food for thought, in any case.</p>
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