Comments on: The insurrection narrative meets the courts https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:49:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: I am Spartacus https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548356 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:49:25 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548356 Richard – one more linked article with individual state information. Another tactic is to ask her to provide data that backs up her assertions. Ie. Put up or shut up. When people actually have to look for verification information, they frequently will start finding data that contradicts their assumptions. Then cracks should start to form. Not initially at first but as time goes on then they have to fit assumptions into data. If she is a doctrinaire, don’t bother me with the facts. My mind is made up. Don’t spend much time on it. Just present and move on.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/03/30/the-latest-data-absolutely-eviscerates-the-case-for-mandatory-masking-n352629

Good luck. Change is a process and not a moment.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548332 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:09:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548332 Spartacus. Thanks for the info. For the True Believers, it’s the severity of the reaction that counts. Not the results. If there’s a conflict–as you describe–the thing is “a mess” and the lack of severity is the reason. That’s in looking at less severe states with good results.
More severe states with bad results–Michigan, NY, etc,–are doing things right. Forcing a confrontation with facts, if done with sufficient focus, results in word salad.

]]> By: Minta Marie Morze https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548325 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 05:47:37 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548325 Neo, I was madly hoping that the lawyers for Trump at the second Impeachment Senate “Trial” would spend some time right at the beginning showing videos of and describing the definitional elements of various past Insurrections around the world, and explaining how what happened on January 6th could not in any way, shape, or form, correspond to a public, as opposed to a military, uprising Insurrection. It would have helped subsequent discussions. Images of dead bodies in the streets and burning buildings, etc. No one even in their wrong mind would have tried an unarmed insurrection against the USA.

]]> By: I am Spartacus https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548310 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 03:23:55 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548310 To Richard Aubrey re: your doctrinaire SIL. I figure that you would most likely to see this post here vs. from several days ago. I wish I could send a notice. Here is a piece of evidence to give to her and ask why are masks needed and a COVID Passport when states with the most relaxed COVID rules have lower cases.

Biden issued a panicked press conference to try to make the southern states to mask up again. Why? Because the new CDC director is crying about COVID. She is very worried.

The country is in the best of hands.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=393398

Biden Demands States Reimpose COVID Mask Mandates – The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com)

Extract: Apparently the far-left have a need to reignite COVID weaponized fear. With more states dropping mask mandates and opening up their restrictions, the JoeBama administration is facing a crisis of spontaneous self-reliance breaking out. They really need the COVID fear to continue their control over all facets of society.

It’s likely they need to funnel more money into their allied corporate funders and the COVID fear is a necessary component therein. The globalist vaccination passport agenda also needs a dangerous virus in order to facilitate the control program. If states are open, masks dropped, restrictions removed and COVID is not deadly, it will be a lot harder to sell the registration program underpinning the vaccination passport agenda.

As a result, Biden is wheeled out from his walk-in-tub and told to go read the fearmongering script stat. Panic is needed quickly. Those pesky dissidents are pressuring their state and local officials to stop with the nonsense propaganda. Mr. Mumbles needs to support the fear narrative… oh and use the creepy, whisper voice.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/right-now-scared-cdc-director-warns-impending-doom-covid-case-trajectory-video/

]]> By: Art+Deco https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548295 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:45:08 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548295 Dwight Chapin was the president’s appointments secretary. He pled to having mislead a grand jury about the activities of his pal, Donald Segretti. Segretti was hired to prank the Democratic campaigns. The Democrats had on their staff a man named Dick Tuck whose job was similar (but who was never indicted). IIRC, the charges contra Richard Kleindienst concerned the Dita Beard matter, not Watergate.

]]> By: Chris B https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548292 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:55:50 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548292 Art Deco- Here are the 13 individuals I found that served jail and prison time for the Watergate scandal:

John Mitchel was convicted of perjury for his involvement in the Watergate break-in and Served 19 months in prison.

Jeb Magruder pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to the burglary and served seven months in prison.

Richard Kleindienst was convicted of contempt of court and served one month in jail.

Frederick LaRue, advisor to John Mitchell, was convicted of obstruction of justice and served four and a half months.

H. R. Haldeman, Chief of Staff for Nixon was convicted of conspiracy to the burglary, obstruction of justice, and perjury. He Served 18 months in prison.

John Erlichman, Counsel to Nixon, was convicted of conspiracy to the burglary,
obstruction of justice, and perjury. He served 18 months in prison.

John Dean, counsel to Nixon, was convicted of obstruction of justice, later reduced to felony offenses and sentenced to time already served, which totaled four months.

Dwight Chapen was counsel to Nixon. He was convicted of obstruction of justice and sentenced to time served, which totaled four months.

Charles Colson was special counsel to Nixon and was convicted of obstruction of justice. He served seven months in prison.

G Gordon Liddy was convicted of masterminding the burglary, original sentence of up to 20 years in prison. He served 4 1?2 years in federal prison.

E Howard Hunt was a security consultant who was convicted of masterminding and overseeing the burglary. He served 33 months.

James W. McCord was convicted of six charges of burglary, conspiracy and wiretapping, and served two months in prison.

Virgilio Gonzalez was convicted of burglary. His original sentence was up to 40 years in prison. He served 13 months.

My information was based on a short internet search only, and was used to illustrate my point, which is the politicization of the current DOJ. I was including anyone connected to the entire Watergate affair, not just the burglars. I will defer to you though, if you have more accurate information.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548291 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:30:31 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548291 Skip:

John Sullivan. John Solomon is the reporter.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548290 Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:26:14 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548290 Chris B:

Whatever the exact number of Watergate conspirators prosecuted and sentenced, I would wager that had a Democratic administration been the perps rather than Nixon and Republicans, very few if any would have been prosecuted. Even back then.

]]> By: J.J. https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548282 Mon, 29 Mar 2021 23:33:19 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548282 Michael Yon was there. He is convinced that the main instigators were Antifa.

Here’s an article that talks about what he’s seen here, in Hong Kong, in Japan, etc. Different places, same tactics. We call them Antifa here, but they’re actually the “Red Guards.” They are the violent vanguard of communism.
https://noqreport.com/2021/03/28/international-conflict-journalist-michael-yon-says-antifa-blm-are-clearly-cults/

Here’s another article with a video attached:
https://minuteman-militia.com/2021/01/13/michael-yon-antifa-clearly-led-attack-at-the-capitol/

Will the FBI ever figure that out? No, their mission is to find “deplorables” and put the fear of big guv’mint in them. Also to convince the LIVs and useful idiots that Jan 6th was a true attempt at sedition.

]]> By: Art+Deco https://thenewneo.com/2021/03/29/the-insurrection-narrative-meets-the-courts/#comment-2548281 Mon, 29 Mar 2021 23:30:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=105683#comment-2548281 With Watergate there were 69 government officials charged, and 48 convicted, with more than a dozen serving time in prison.

Where did you get this datum? There were eight men convicted in re the various burglaries, five who plea bargained to various charges (of whom four were sent to Fort Holabird in Maryland), and four who were convicted at trial of obstruction of justice, &c. There were several others who were shnagged for minor offenses or misleading the grand jury.

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