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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 08:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ultimately, it would all come out of the US treasury, but at least individual taxpayers might not feel the sting and &lt;b&gt;not be made to feel individually responsible for slavery.&lt;/b&gt;&quot; - Lovernios

That would totally defeat the Left&#039;s purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ultimately, it would all come out of the US treasury, but at least individual taxpayers might not feel the sting and <b>not be made to feel individually responsible for slavery.</b>&#8221; &#8211; Lovernios</p>
<p>That would totally defeat the Left&#8217;s purpose.</p>
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		By: Lovernios		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lovernios]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure that reparations can be fairly done, or that it is a good idea at all.  Many of the other posters have shown some of the difficulties that would entail.

However, if reparations were necessary, I would think the best way to fund them would be through federal land sales, or oil, gas, and mineral rights rather than directly through taxes.  Ultimately, it would all come out of the US treasury, but at least individual taxpayers might not feel the sting and not be made to feel individually responsible for slavery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that reparations can be fairly done, or that it is a good idea at all.  Many of the other posters have shown some of the difficulties that would entail.</p>
<p>However, if reparations were necessary, I would think the best way to fund them would be through federal land sales, or oil, gas, and mineral rights rather than directly through taxes.  Ultimately, it would all come out of the US treasury, but at least individual taxpayers might not feel the sting and not be made to feel individually responsible for slavery.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi baldilocks.  Nice to see you again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi baldilocks.  Nice to see you again.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, baldilocks! Nice to see you here. That&#039;s an interesting point about the Luo and the Kenyan scene in general. It&#039;s funny you mention that since I&#039;m just this week going through a chapter on Kenyan history in the first part of the twentieth century (up to about the advent of Kenyatta so far). It&#039;s Robert July&#039;s book; I like his writing and this was one of the old texts from my African-history course in college.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, baldilocks! Nice to see you here. That&#8217;s an interesting point about the Luo and the Kenyan scene in general. It&#8217;s funny you mention that since I&#8217;m just this week going through a chapter on Kenyan history in the first part of the twentieth century (up to about the advent of Kenyatta so far). It&#8217;s Robert July&#8217;s book; I like his writing and this was one of the old texts from my African-history course in college.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[baldilocks,

I really enjoy your blog. Thanks for all you do!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baldilocks,</p>
<p>I really enjoy your blog. Thanks for all you do!</p>
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		By: baldilocks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baldilocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey says:

“Barack Obama’s father’s ancestors were almost certainly slave OWNERS, as well as SLAVERS – those who capture and make slaves out of people captured. He wasn’t descended from any US slaves.”

In spite of the widely spread idea that the Luo tribe of East Africa — Obama’s tribe — were slave owners, there is no historical evidence of this. The notion got to accepted as true because the Kenyan Obamas are Muslims and Islamic entities are mostly responsible for the millennium-long ravaging of the continent to this very day. 

But the Obamas are coverts (from BHO’s grandfather) and around 90% of the Luo tribe are Christians. Before colonialism, most of the tribe followed tribal spiritual practices with Islam not being one of them. 

It is, true, of course, that BHO is not descended from American slaves — unless one subscribes to the notion that Frank Marshall Davis is his true bio father. But that’s a whole other can of worms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey says:</p>
<p>“Barack Obama’s father’s ancestors were almost certainly slave OWNERS, as well as SLAVERS – those who capture and make slaves out of people captured. He wasn’t descended from any US slaves.”</p>
<p>In spite of the widely spread idea that the Luo tribe of East Africa — Obama’s tribe — were slave owners, there is no historical evidence of this. The notion got to accepted as true because the Kenyan Obamas are Muslims and Islamic entities are mostly responsible for the millennium-long ravaging of the continent to this very day. </p>
<p>But the Obamas are coverts (from BHO’s grandfather) and around 90% of the Luo tribe are Christians. Before colonialism, most of the tribe followed tribal spiritual practices with Islam not being one of them. </p>
<p>It is, true, of course, that BHO is not descended from American slaves — unless one subscribes to the notion that Frank Marshall Davis is his true bio father. But that’s a whole other can of worms.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

Spotted Owl and Marbled Murelett policies decimated the timber industries in the NW starting in the early 80s IIRC.  But Portland, although weird, wasn&#039;t full on anarchy until say 2016 or so IMO.  See the show &quot;Portlandia&quot; as a satire of the vibe?  Its not a very big city, but the left can make even a small place their own little inferno.

Worked at the Hanford site with a GeoProbe subcontractor from Portland in 2009 who from his tats and his talk was a Neo-Nazi, so yes those bozos (killer clowns) were out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>Spotted Owl and Marbled Murelett policies decimated the timber industries in the NW starting in the early 80s IIRC.  But Portland, although weird, wasn&#8217;t full on anarchy until say 2016 or so IMO.  See the show &#8220;Portlandia&#8221; as a satire of the vibe?  Its not a very big city, but the left can make even a small place their own little inferno.</p>
<p>Worked at the Hanford site with a GeoProbe subcontractor from Portland in 2009 who from his tats and his talk was a Neo-Nazi, so yes those bozos (killer clowns) were out there.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Portland OR...

M Williams, om: 

According to Totten&#039;s article Portland had a history of political violence:
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&lt;i&gt;Portland was a grim and gritty place in the 1970s and the early 1980s, weighed down by hard luck and decay. The local resource extraction industries, timber in particular, were in decline. Drug dealers and prostitutes set up shop on the street corners. Eruptions of far-Right and far-Left violence garnered the city nicknames like “Skinhead City” and “Little Beirut.”

--Michael Totten, &quot;Leaving Portland&quot;
https://quillette.com/2021/03/14/leaving-portland/&lt;/i&gt;
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This helps explain Portland&#039;s current unhappy state. I&#039;ve been wondering this past year, &quot;Why Portland?&quot; Why not Oakland or Memphis or Chicago? 

I&#039;ve had a few friends move from San Francisco to Portland and it seemed they had found a nice, less expensive place to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Portland OR&#8230;</p>
<p>M Williams, om: </p>
<p>According to Totten&#8217;s article Portland had a history of political violence:<br />
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<p><i>Portland was a grim and gritty place in the 1970s and the early 1980s, weighed down by hard luck and decay. The local resource extraction industries, timber in particular, were in decline. Drug dealers and prostitutes set up shop on the street corners. Eruptions of far-Right and far-Left violence garnered the city nicknames like “Skinhead City” and “Little Beirut.”</p>
<p>&#8211;Michael Totten, &#8220;Leaving Portland&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://quillette.com/2021/03/14/leaving-portland/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quillette.com/2021/03/14/leaving-portland/</a></i><br />
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<p>This helps explain Portland&#8217;s current unhappy state. I&#8217;ve been wondering this past year, &#8220;Why Portland?&#8221; Why not Oakland or Memphis or Chicago? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a few friends move from San Francisco to Portland and it seemed they had found a nice, less expensive place to live.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.quillette.com

The for the article about Portland  OR.

Thanks M Williams!]]></description>
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<p>The for the article about Portland  OR.</p>
<p>Thanks M Williams!</p>
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		By: M Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Quillette article about Portland, OR by Michael Totten makes for interesting reading, particularly the comment section.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Quillette article about Portland, OR by Michael Totten makes for interesting reading, particularly the comment section.</p>
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