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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2542011</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Art+Deco - You&#039;re nitpicking. The trend is nationwide. The counties where Trump did considerably worse are mostly red and mostly suburban. That holds generally across swing states and red states. In most of those counties, Trump&#039;s percentage went down, so the effect is unlikely to be caused by Gary Johnson voters switching to Biden. Even if you can attribute some of it to Johnson, you can&#039;t count on a strong libertarian candidate every year. (Also, FWIW, it would surprise most folks in Butler County PA to learn that they aren&#039;t living in a suburban county around Pittsburgh.)

om - Are you suggesting that mail-in voting/integrity problems made a difference in red suburban counties but not  in deep blue urban areas or red rural areas? I can&#039;t rule that out, but it sounds pretty far fetched to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art+Deco &#8211; You&#8217;re nitpicking. The trend is nationwide. The counties where Trump did considerably worse are mostly red and mostly suburban. That holds generally across swing states and red states. In most of those counties, Trump&#8217;s percentage went down, so the effect is unlikely to be caused by Gary Johnson voters switching to Biden. Even if you can attribute some of it to Johnson, you can&#8217;t count on a strong libertarian candidate every year. (Also, FWIW, it would surprise most folks in Butler County PA to learn that they aren&#8217;t living in a suburban county around Pittsburgh.)</p>
<p>om &#8211; Are you suggesting that mail-in voting/integrity problems made a difference in red suburban counties but not  in deep blue urban areas or red rural areas? I can&#8217;t rule that out, but it sounds pretty far fetched to me.</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541968</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Check out all the red suburban counties around Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Detroit, and Milwaukee. &lt;/i&gt;

1. The closest thing to a &#039;suburban county&#039; around Milwaukee is Waukesha County.  Biden did do better there than Clinton did, but that could have a half-dozen different explanations, starting with how the Gary Johnson vote sorted out. 

2. Harrisburg has no &#039;suburban counties&#039;.  The tract development begins at the intersection of Cumberland and Dauphin Counties and spreads outward.  The same observation applies as that to Milwaukee.

3. The suburban counties around Pittsburgh are Beaver and Westmoreland.  Biden added about 2-3% in these counties.  Same observation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Check out all the red suburban counties around Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Detroit, and Milwaukee. </i></p>
<p>1. The closest thing to a &#8216;suburban county&#8217; around Milwaukee is Waukesha County.  Biden did do better there than Clinton did, but that could have a half-dozen different explanations, starting with how the Gary Johnson vote sorted out. </p>
<p>2. Harrisburg has no &#8216;suburban counties&#8217;.  The tract development begins at the intersection of Cumberland and Dauphin Counties and spreads outward.  The same observation applies as that to Milwaukee.</p>
<p>3. The suburban counties around Pittsburgh are Beaver and Westmoreland.  Biden added about 2-3% in these counties.  Same observation.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who knew a Turtle could sulk?

“McConnell has not spoken with Trump since Dec. 14 — the day McConnell acknowledged President Biden won the November election — and he does not plan to ever speak with him again, people close to him say,” the Washington Post reported. “Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal details. Even the back channel the two men once had — between McConnell’s former top aide Josh Holmes and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner — is now cold.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mcconnell-speaking-trump-again]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knew a Turtle could sulk?</p>
<p>“McConnell has not spoken with Trump since Dec. 14 — the day McConnell acknowledged President Biden won the November election — and he does not plan to ever speak with him again, people close to him say,” the Washington Post reported. “Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal details. Even the back channel the two men once had — between McConnell’s former top aide Josh Holmes and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner — is now cold.”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mcconnell-speaking-trump-again" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mcconnell-speaking-trump-again</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541932</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What changed between 2016 and 2020?  Mail in voting, no effective vote security/integrity?  Voting after election day?  Nothing to see, it&#039;s all Orange Man Bad, to be followed by DeSantis (or whomever) is Satan in the future.  

Follow the Turtle, GOPextinct.  Go team Turtle!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What changed between 2016 and 2020?  Mail in voting, no effective vote security/integrity?  Voting after election day?  Nothing to see, it&#8217;s all Orange Man Bad, to be followed by DeSantis (or whomever) is Satan in the future.  </p>
<p>Follow the Turtle, GOPextinct.  Go team Turtle!</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541923</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://data.rgj.com/presidential-election-results-compare-2016-2020/

Art+Deco and om - Click the link and select Dem Overperform to show counties where the Democratic candidate gained 3% or more between 2016 and 2020. Most of those counties are red. Philadelphia County is the only swing state city center. Check out all the red suburban counties around Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Detroit, and Milwaukee. 

If Trump hadn&#039;t underperformed in the suburbs, he would have won, even with the other shenanigans that went on.

If you want a look at the future, check out the red suburban counties in safe (for now) red states where Biden gained 3% or more relative to Hillary: Cincinnati, Raleigh, Columbia SC, Charleston WV, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, New Orleans, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://data.rgj.com/presidential-election-results-compare-2016-2020/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://data.rgj.com/presidential-election-results-compare-2016-2020/</a></p>
<p>Art+Deco and om &#8211; Click the link and select Dem Overperform to show counties where the Democratic candidate gained 3% or more between 2016 and 2020. Most of those counties are red. Philadelphia County is the only swing state city center. Check out all the red suburban counties around Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Detroit, and Milwaukee. </p>
<p>If Trump hadn&#8217;t underperformed in the suburbs, he would have won, even with the other shenanigans that went on.</p>
<p>If you want a look at the future, check out the red suburban counties in safe (for now) red states where Biden gained 3% or more relative to Hillary: Cincinnati, Raleigh, Columbia SC, Charleston WV, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, New Orleans, etc.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those suburbs called &quot;Atlanta,&quot; &quot;Philadelphia,&quot; &quot;Detroit,&quot; &quot;Milwaukee.&quot;  Those typical corrupt Democrat machine run &quot;suburbs.&quot;  Now we get it.  The GOPextinct has a strategy!   :)  Don&#039;t tell the left!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those suburbs called &#8220;Atlanta,&#8221; &#8220;Philadelphia,&#8221; &#8220;Detroit,&#8221; &#8220;Milwaukee.&#8221;  Those typical corrupt Democrat machine run &#8220;suburbs.&#8221;  Now we get it.  The GOPextinct has a strategy!   🙂  Don&#8217;t tell the left!  🙂</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art+Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The GOP can’t win without the Trump voters and it can’t win without the formerly red suburbs that Trump turned blue. &lt;/i&gt;

Which suburbs?  And how has their change in disposition differed from the backround noise of political life - where party fortunes rise and decline in a particular locale according to a dozen different vectors.  While we&#039;re at it, where did you ever get the idea you were Frank Luntz?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The GOP can’t win without the Trump voters and it can’t win without the formerly red suburbs that Trump turned blue. </i></p>
<p>Which suburbs?  And how has their change in disposition differed from the backround noise of political life &#8211; where party fortunes rise and decline in a particular locale according to a dozen different vectors.  While we&#8217;re at it, where did you ever get the idea you were Frank Luntz?</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art+Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Whatever happened to the 11th Commandment? See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)&lt;/i&gt;

Reagan challenged Gerald Ford for the Republican presidential nomination in 1975 and 1976, so he didn&#039;t always adhere to it.  Reagan&#039;s disputes with Ford were over substantive policy, of course, and Reagan wasn&#039;t given to recycling Democratic talking points (much less vicious and mendacious talking points).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whatever happened to the 11th Commandment? See <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)</a></i></p>
<p>Reagan challenged Gerald Ford for the Republican presidential nomination in 1975 and 1976, so he didn&#8217;t always adhere to it.  Reagan&#8217;s disputes with Ford were over substantive policy, of course, and Reagan wasn&#8217;t given to recycling Democratic talking points (much less vicious and mendacious talking points).</p>
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		By: LAURENCE JARVIK		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541899</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LAURENCE JARVIK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever happened to the 11th Commandment? See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to the 11th Commandment? See <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)</a></p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/17/mcconnell-vs-trump/#comment-2541898</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 12:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GOP can&#039;t win without the Trump voters and it can&#039;t win without the formerly red suburbs that Trump turned blue. That means that unless somebody gives, the GOP can&#039;t win. Hello President Kamala.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP can&#8217;t win without the Trump voters and it can&#8217;t win without the formerly red suburbs that Trump turned blue. That means that unless somebody gives, the GOP can&#8217;t win. Hello President Kamala.</p>
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