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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2541739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 20:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think this might be a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/484/text?r=12&#038;s=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;bill of attainder&lt;/a&gt;.

Doesn&#039;t punish with prison, banishment, death etc, but it is a law needing to be passed by both houses and there exists only one person on earth to whom it can apply.

An extraordinarily small-hearted waste of time, and I would want to know the name of any Republican who in any way helps move it forward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this might be a <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/484/text?r=12&amp;s=1" rel="nofollow ugc">bill of attainder</a>.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t punish with prison, banishment, death etc, but it is a law needing to be passed by both houses and there exists only one person on earth to whom it can apply.</p>
<p>An extraordinarily small-hearted waste of time, and I would want to know the name of any Republican who in any way helps move it forward.</p>
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		By: FB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting  article 


The Big Lie
Eli Zaretsky
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2021/february/the-big-lie?utm_campaign=20210216blog&#038;utm_content=20210216blog%20CID_be5157192b1a9e7db2d77dc3b188d32c&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_source=LRB%20email&#038;utm_term=The%20Big%20Lie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting  article </p>
<p>The Big Lie<br />
Eli Zaretsky<br />
<a href="https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2021/february/the-big-lie?utm_campaign=20210216blog&#038;utm_content=20210216blog%20CID_be5157192b1a9e7db2d77dc3b188d32c&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_source=LRB%20email&#038;utm_term=The%20Big%20Lie" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2021/february/the-big-lie?utm_campaign=20210216blog&#038;utm_content=20210216blog%20CID_be5157192b1a9e7db2d77dc3b188d32c&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_source=LRB%20email&#038;utm_term=The%20Big%20Lie</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’ve always thought that Sapir-Whorf made a lot of intuitive sense.&lt;/i&gt;

Snow on Pine:

Likewise. There is a weak version and strong version of Sapir-Whorf:
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&lt;i&gt;* The strong version, or linguistic determinism, says that language determines thought and that linguistic categories limit and determine cognitive categories. This version is generally agreed to be false by modern linguists.

* The weak version says that linguistic categories and usage only influence thought and decisions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity&lt;/i&gt;
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I don&#039;t see how one&#039;s language wouldn&#039;t have *some* influence over one&#039;s thoughts and decisions.

For instance, microaggression wasn&#039;t a word until a black Harvard psychiatrist, Chester Pierce, made it up in 1970. It&#039;s gradually come into common usage. Now laws and lives are changed because of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve always thought that Sapir-Whorf made a lot of intuitive sense.</i></p>
<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>Likewise. There is a weak version and strong version of Sapir-Whorf:<br />
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<p><i>* The strong version, or linguistic determinism, says that language determines thought and that linguistic categories limit and determine cognitive categories. This version is generally agreed to be false by modern linguists.</p>
<p>* The weak version says that linguistic categories and usage only influence thought and decisions.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity</a></i><br />
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<p>I don&#8217;t see how one&#8217;s language wouldn&#8217;t have *some* influence over one&#8217;s thoughts and decisions.</p>
<p>For instance, microaggression wasn&#8217;t a word until a black Harvard psychiatrist, Chester Pierce, made it up in 1970. It&#8217;s gradually come into common usage. Now laws and lives are changed because of it.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540649</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It appears that those on the Left believe that Sapir-Whorf is true, because they are trying to control and constrain language, in the belief that by doing so they can constrain and channel thought and debate and, thus, have some control--perhaps almost decisive control--over action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that those on the Left believe that Sapir-Whorf is true, because they are trying to control and constrain language, in the belief that by doing so they can constrain and channel thought and debate and, thus, have some control&#8211;perhaps almost decisive control&#8211;over action.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always thought that Sapir-Whorf made a lot of intuitive sense.

You learn your mother tongue, and are raised in a particular culture, whose particular language is preoccupied with and conveys certain cultural norms, certain preferred ways of looking at the world and describing it, and which also supplies you with a very specific group of topics of primary concern, which are usually uppermost in your culture and mind, and this particular language and culture—as opposed to all other alternative languages and their cultures--shapes and constrains how and what you routinely identify, perceive, think of, and deal with; the constituents of the world, whether the world of a herdsman outside of Ulan Bator, of an Australian Bushman, a small traditional farmer in the Italian countryside, an Eskimo, a painter in Paris, or an executive in New York. 

That language supplies you with a very specific toolkit or set of eyeglasses—some toolkits and sets of glasses much more effective than others--with which to encounter, identify, think of, and to deal with what you perceive as the world of things and people around you, and how it functions.

It thus seems very reasonable to believe that that particular shaping, those specific categories, and those specific constraints—that toolkit and that particular set of eye glasses--has a decisive effect on what you primarily perceive, (even on what you can perceive) and how you think about and deal with what you perceive; your habitual categories and patterns of thought, your view of the world, and how you focus on and apply the specific tools that your language supplies to deal with that world that you perceive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that Sapir-Whorf made a lot of intuitive sense.</p>
<p>You learn your mother tongue, and are raised in a particular culture, whose particular language is preoccupied with and conveys certain cultural norms, certain preferred ways of looking at the world and describing it, and which also supplies you with a very specific group of topics of primary concern, which are usually uppermost in your culture and mind, and this particular language and culture—as opposed to all other alternative languages and their cultures&#8211;shapes and constrains how and what you routinely identify, perceive, think of, and deal with; the constituents of the world, whether the world of a herdsman outside of Ulan Bator, of an Australian Bushman, a small traditional farmer in the Italian countryside, an Eskimo, a painter in Paris, or an executive in New York. </p>
<p>That language supplies you with a very specific toolkit or set of eyeglasses—some toolkits and sets of glasses much more effective than others&#8211;with which to encounter, identify, think of, and to deal with what you perceive as the world of things and people around you, and how it functions.</p>
<p>It thus seems very reasonable to believe that that particular shaping, those specific categories, and those specific constraints—that toolkit and that particular set of eye glasses&#8211;has a decisive effect on what you primarily perceive, (even on what you can perceive) and how you think about and deal with what you perceive; your habitual categories and patterns of thought, your view of the world, and how you focus on and apply the specific tools that your language supplies to deal with that world that you perceive.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOAF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Going off only slightly on a tangent to the constitutionality of impeaching/trying a President or other official no longer in office:  one of the justifications for doing so has been, &quot;He can get out of it by resigning, not fair!&quot;.  However Nixon resigned when it looked like he was destined for impeachment and conviction, and everyone thought that was the proper outcome at the time.  Not even Democrats were screaming, &quot;NO, WE HAVE TO IMPEACH AND CONVICT HIM #&#038;%^&#038;#!!!&quot;  I do not recall anyone even bringing that up.  In short I believe the current arguments attempting to justify the trial of Trump after he left office are partisan sophistry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going off only slightly on a tangent to the constitutionality of impeaching/trying a President or other official no longer in office:  one of the justifications for doing so has been, &#8220;He can get out of it by resigning, not fair!&#8221;.  However Nixon resigned when it looked like he was destined for impeachment and conviction, and everyone thought that was the proper outcome at the time.  Not even Democrats were screaming, &#8220;NO, WE HAVE TO IMPEACH AND CONVICT HIM #&amp;%^&amp;#!!!&#8221;  I do not recall anyone even bringing that up.  In short I believe the current arguments attempting to justify the trial of Trump after he left office are partisan sophistry.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 00:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A more recent take on the &quot;science&quot; of phrenology was &quot;The Mismeasure of Man&quot; by Stephen Jay Gould, made famous for the theory of puncuated equilibrium (don&#039;t recall his coauthor).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A more recent take on the &#8220;science&#8221; of phrenology was &#8220;The Mismeasure of Man&#8221; by Stephen Jay Gould, made famous for the theory of puncuated equilibrium (don&#8217;t recall his coauthor).</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 00:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yammer the clown takes off the makeup, orange hair,  and red nose.  He&#039;s serious now!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yammer the clown takes off the makeup, orange hair,  and red nose.  He&#8217;s serious now!  🙂</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of humans thought I was clowning around in 2012, 2015, 2017, 2019, when I told them that if they kept up their human shenanigans with me, I would &quot;up the difficulty&quot; on them.

Enjoy 2020 and 2021 while it lasts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of humans thought I was clowning around in 2012, 2015, 2017, 2019, when I told them that if they kept up their human shenanigans with me, I would &#8220;up the difficulty&#8221; on them.</p>
<p>Enjoy 2020 and 2021 while it lasts.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/#comment-2540398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 00:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;... like when the characters in Jane Eyre keep talking about phrenology.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You got an audible chuckle from me with that one, Frederick. I will, of course, steal that line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; like when the characters in Jane Eyre keep talking about phrenology.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You got an audible chuckle from me with that one, Frederick. I will, of course, steal that line.</p>
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