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		By: Idaho guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idaho guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 22:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: The Turtles
There&#039;s a quirky little movie called &quot;My Dinner with Jimi&quot; that focuses on The Turtles UK tour just after &quot;Happy Together&quot; was a hit. Howard Kaylan, one of the Turtles&#039; singers, wrote the screenplay about his run-in with some of British rock royalty and his....ummmm...interesting dinner with Jimi Hendrix. Justin Henry, who I always picture in his &quot;Kramer vs. Kramer&quot; role, plays Kaylan. Definitely worth the 90 minutes to see the insecurities of these stars just as they were hitting it big.


(If you&#039;ve already mentioned the movie in a previous post, my apologies.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The Turtles<br />
There&#8217;s a quirky little movie called &#8220;My Dinner with Jimi&#8221; that focuses on The Turtles UK tour just after &#8220;Happy Together&#8221; was a hit. Howard Kaylan, one of the Turtles&#8217; singers, wrote the screenplay about his run-in with some of British rock royalty and his&#8230;.ummmm&#8230;interesting dinner with Jimi Hendrix. Justin Henry, who I always picture in his &#8220;Kramer vs. Kramer&#8221; role, plays Kaylan. Definitely worth the 90 minutes to see the insecurities of these stars just as they were hitting it big.</p>
<p>(If you&#8217;ve already mentioned the movie in a previous post, my apologies.)</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 20:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m gonna go with pure snark, and suggest &quot;I&#039;ll Wait&quot; for Valentine&#039;s Day.

:-P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegvworoMX4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m gonna go with pure snark, and suggest &#8220;I&#8217;ll Wait&#8221; for Valentine&#8217;s Day.</p>
<p>😛</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegvworoMX4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegvworoMX4</a></p>
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		By: Paul In Boston		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brenda Lee had a terrific voice.  She seems to have studied Patsy Cline’s style and makes excellent use of it in this song.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda Lee had a terrific voice.  She seems to have studied Patsy Cline’s style and makes excellent use of it in this song.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay:

I do like old B&#038;Ws, but Marilyn is holding her value on Amazon -- $4 to rent a colorized version of Niagara.

Songwriters vary in how true their songs are to material from their lives. It doesn&#039;t surprise me that Ocasek includes fantasies. 

A few nights ago I went down a rabbit hole from Leonard Cohen to Joni Mitchell and then to Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. 

With the exception of Marianne, the woman Cohen lived with on Hydra, and Janis Joplin, Cohen tended to transform personal material so it&#039;s not clear who the songs were about and how much was fiction. 

Joni Mitchell&#039;s songs were closer to her life, though usually cloaked in metaphor. According to one account, she broke up with David Crosby by singing &quot;That Song About the Midway&quot; to him. &quot;Blue Boy&quot; was about Graham Nash with whom she lived for two years. &quot;Rainy Day House&quot; and &quot;A Case of You&quot; were about Leonard Cohen.

After Mitchell broke up with Graham Nash, he wrote the most broken-hearted lover song I know -- &quot;I am a Simple Man.&quot; In sympathy Neil Young wrote &quot;Only Love Can Break Your Heart&quot; for Nash.

The LA singer-songwriter crew wrote a lot of songs for each other in the 70s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>I do like old B&amp;Ws, but Marilyn is holding her value on Amazon &#8212; $4 to rent a colorized version of Niagara.</p>
<p>Songwriters vary in how true their songs are to material from their lives. It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that Ocasek includes fantasies. </p>
<p>A few nights ago I went down a rabbit hole from Leonard Cohen to Joni Mitchell and then to Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. </p>
<p>With the exception of Marianne, the woman Cohen lived with on Hydra, and Janis Joplin, Cohen tended to transform personal material so it&#8217;s not clear who the songs were about and how much was fiction. </p>
<p>Joni Mitchell&#8217;s songs were closer to her life, though usually cloaked in metaphor. According to one account, she broke up with David Crosby by singing &#8220;That Song About the Midway&#8221; to him. &#8220;Blue Boy&#8221; was about Graham Nash with whom she lived for two years. &#8220;Rainy Day House&#8221; and &#8220;A Case of You&#8221; were about Leonard Cohen.</p>
<p>After Mitchell broke up with Graham Nash, he wrote the most broken-hearted lover song I know &#8212; &#8220;I am a Simple Man.&#8221; In sympathy Neil Young wrote &#8220;Only Love Can Break Your Heart&#8221; for Nash.</p>
<p>The LA singer-songwriter crew wrote a lot of songs for each other in the 70s.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,
The Professor of Rock video was good.  I still think the lyric is not so puzzling.  A girl is in trouble and the writer/singer wants to help her.  I guess the finer details are interesting, not terribly so for me.

So Timothy Hutton directed that video for Drive, which made watch it again carefully.  I was fascinated by the fact that the only real people in it are Orr, Porizkova and Ocasek.  Some scenes have rooms full of people who are mannequins or automatons, except for the three persons.

It reminds me of the film noir classic &quot;Niagara&quot; with M. Monroe, Joseph Cotton and Jean Peters.  I like it better every time I watch it.  It was conceived as big budget trash by the studio, but the screenwriter Charles Brackett could not resist making it into a good movie.  Except viewers don&#039;t seem to get it.

Everybody in the film is either a jerk or a automaton or a non-entity, except for Jean Peters and Joseph Cotton who are married to other people.  It is a commentary on society in the 50&#039;s, IMO.  
_____

I found the Prof. of Rock&#039;s comment that Ocasek said that his song writing is sometimes an expression of his fantasies very interesting.  If that applies to &quot;It&#039;s All I Can Do&quot; it suggests that it is an entirely imagined romance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,<br />
The Professor of Rock video was good.  I still think the lyric is not so puzzling.  A girl is in trouble and the writer/singer wants to help her.  I guess the finer details are interesting, not terribly so for me.</p>
<p>So Timothy Hutton directed that video for Drive, which made watch it again carefully.  I was fascinated by the fact that the only real people in it are Orr, Porizkova and Ocasek.  Some scenes have rooms full of people who are mannequins or automatons, except for the three persons.</p>
<p>It reminds me of the film noir classic &#8220;Niagara&#8221; with M. Monroe, Joseph Cotton and Jean Peters.  I like it better every time I watch it.  It was conceived as big budget trash by the studio, but the screenwriter Charles Brackett could not resist making it into a good movie.  Except viewers don&#8217;t seem to get it.</p>
<p>Everybody in the film is either a jerk or a automaton or a non-entity, except for Jean Peters and Joseph Cotton who are married to other people.  It is a commentary on society in the 50&#8217;s, IMO.<br />
_____</p>
<p>I found the Prof. of Rock&#8217;s comment that Ocasek said that his song writing is sometimes an expression of his fantasies very interesting.  If that applies to &#8220;It&#8217;s All I Can Do&#8221; it suggests that it is an entirely imagined romance.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay:

Prof of Rock has an episode on the Cars&#039; &quot;Drive&quot; with an interesting exploration of the lyrics:

--&quot;This 80s Hit by The Cars Should&#039;ve Been A #1 &#124; Professor of Rock&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfA2Q1GFKiE&#038;t=15s

I hadn&#039;t considered it, but there&#039;s a lot of Buddy Holly in Ric Ocasek. The skinny guy in glasses, still sexy, with a truck load of talent, an eye for boy-girl pop songs and a slightly nasal voice. Both wizards in the studio.

Thanks for considering my &quot;Dangerous Type&quot; riff. I may get carried away at times, but I don&#039;t think song lyrics are as arbitrary as people tend to assume.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>Prof of Rock has an episode on the Cars&#8217; &#8220;Drive&#8221; with an interesting exploration of the lyrics:</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;This 80s Hit by The Cars Should&#8217;ve Been A #1 | Professor of Rock&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfA2Q1GFKiE&#038;t=15s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfA2Q1GFKiE&#038;t=15s</a></p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t considered it, but there&#8217;s a lot of Buddy Holly in Ric Ocasek. The skinny guy in glasses, still sexy, with a truck load of talent, an eye for boy-girl pop songs and a slightly nasal voice. Both wizards in the studio.</p>
<p>Thanks for considering my &#8220;Dangerous Type&#8221; riff. I may get carried away at times, but I don&#8217;t think song lyrics are as arbitrary as people tend to assume.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,
I never attempted to understand the lyrics in The Dangerous Type.  I always assumed some modern girlfriend topic.  That&#039;s an interesting take.  I&#039;ve got that album on CD, and I believe I had the first album on vinyl and transferred it to cassette for driving music, in the day.

This may somewhat obvious, but I wasn&#039;t to me.  I was listening to &quot;My Best Friends Girl&quot; yesterday (I&#039;ve heard it a great many times) and it struck me.  It&#039;s very derivative of Buddy Holly; a post modern Buddy Holly perhaps.  And I think Ocasek&#039;s unusual vocal style is at least a little bit derivative of Holly.  The song has some more of the powerful modern guitar cords and fuller vocal choruses than Holly, and it tricks you into hearing it as modern era rock and roll.  Strip out those cords and a couple voices, and it is Holly.  I&#039;ll intentionally skip the lyrics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,<br />
I never attempted to understand the lyrics in The Dangerous Type.  I always assumed some modern girlfriend topic.  That&#8217;s an interesting take.  I&#8217;ve got that album on CD, and I believe I had the first album on vinyl and transferred it to cassette for driving music, in the day.</p>
<p>This may somewhat obvious, but I wasn&#8217;t to me.  I was listening to &#8220;My Best Friends Girl&#8221; yesterday (I&#8217;ve heard it a great many times) and it struck me.  It&#8217;s very derivative of Buddy Holly; a post modern Buddy Holly perhaps.  And I think Ocasek&#8217;s unusual vocal style is at least a little bit derivative of Holly.  The song has some more of the powerful modern guitar cords and fuller vocal choruses than Holly, and it tricks you into hearing it as modern era rock and roll.  Strip out those cords and a couple voices, and it is Holly.  I&#8217;ll intentionally skip the lyrics.</p>
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		By: Wild, wild west		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wild, wild west]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: Brenda Lee

Golden Earing: &quot;Radio plays that forgotten song&quot; etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Brenda Lee</p>
<p>Golden Earing: &#8220;Radio plays that forgotten song&#8221; etc.</p>
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		By: jack		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 05:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK ... got Mrs jack some candy. Also slipped into box a bunch $5 scratch offs.

I&#039;ll get some of the candy but I won&#039;t get any of the scratch offs! forgetaboutit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8230; got Mrs jack some candy. Also slipped into box a bunch $5 scratch offs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get some of the candy but I won&#8217;t get any of the scratch offs! forgetaboutit</p>
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		By: Le Mot Juste		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 04:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Happy Together was for a while the opening number for The Lords of T.O.N.K., our Philly-area 60s group.  We worked all the time, made good $$, even cut a couple 45s. The chords of the song come easily to mind...Am, G, F, E7, etc. Next up was Lady Jane, featuring a recorder solo by our drummer Murphy.  Another Murphy, our rhythm guitar, introduced me thus: &quot;And on keyboard, good buddy Frank, who has a 42 pound organ.....&quot; Which I did, a so-called Farfisa mini compact that folded up like a suitcase.  We played Margate, NJ all summer long, in a club flush by Lucy, the well-known house-size elephant landmark, and my droll internist father, between sips of scotch and soda, enjoyed summoning me onto the summer house patio and announcing to his fellow tipplers, &quot;Here&#039;s my son Frank, currently pursuing his career under the anus of the elephant in Margate.&quot;  A dad&#039;s support is so crucial.  Anyhow, good times in a vanished world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Together was for a while the opening number for The Lords of T.O.N.K., our Philly-area 60s group.  We worked all the time, made good $$, even cut a couple 45s. The chords of the song come easily to mind&#8230;Am, G, F, E7, etc. Next up was Lady Jane, featuring a recorder solo by our drummer Murphy.  Another Murphy, our rhythm guitar, introduced me thus: &#8220;And on keyboard, good buddy Frank, who has a 42 pound organ&#8230;..&#8221; Which I did, a so-called Farfisa mini compact that folded up like a suitcase.  We played Margate, NJ all summer long, in a club flush by Lucy, the well-known house-size elephant landmark, and my droll internist father, between sips of scotch and soda, enjoyed summoning me onto the summer house patio and announcing to his fellow tipplers, &#8220;Here&#8217;s my son Frank, currently pursuing his career under the anus of the elephant in Margate.&#8221;  A dad&#8217;s support is so crucial.  Anyhow, good times in a vanished world.</p>
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