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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Barry Meislin on February 11, 2021 at 11:47 am said:	

DNW, yer most welcome.
That guy is pretty incredible. Exceptionally thorough and a genius…so it seems to me ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sometimes thoroughness and conscientiousness can make up some of the lost ground we who lack genius have to contend with.

But any of us, with even a rudimentary understanding gained from having our own websites and maybe merchant accounts, and having had to do the work of registering and searching our own domains, could have done some of the rudimentary checking that Apelbaum did. Is he correct in not only his observations, but in the surmise he has drawn from them? I do not know for sure; but it certainly raises red flags the size of main sails. 

But here is what I do know, and I think you and most here would agree: There is no god###ned excuse for a professional blogger on the right not going through the basic steps Aplebaum took before breathlessly posting up some [what may have been] click bait garbage.

There is no excuse, no excuse at all for an habitual lack of due diligence in &quot;reporting&quot; ostensible facts to others.

What possible purpose does it serve? It is in fact destructive at every turn. 

The basic principles of historical reportage are drilled into every liberal arts kid who has taken historiography 110. [ Well, maybe not exactly, since that course is often a 450 and above level course taken to qualify for the major ...] 

In any event, some level of critical ability should have by now been cultivated by every college graduate now over 40. You don&#039;t need a shelf full of logic texts, or to have made a special study of Collingwood (there you go huxley) in order to do just a little fact checking,

But apparently, as Neo notes, Andrea Mitchell, and many others supposedly on &quot;our side&quot;, just cannot pass up any chance whatsoever to excitedly j#ck o## in public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Barry Meislin on February 11, 2021 at 11:47 am said:	</p>
<p>DNW, yer most welcome.<br />
That guy is pretty incredible. Exceptionally thorough and a genius…so it seems to me &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes thoroughness and conscientiousness can make up some of the lost ground we who lack genius have to contend with.</p>
<p>But any of us, with even a rudimentary understanding gained from having our own websites and maybe merchant accounts, and having had to do the work of registering and searching our own domains, could have done some of the rudimentary checking that Apelbaum did. Is he correct in not only his observations, but in the surmise he has drawn from them? I do not know for sure; but it certainly raises red flags the size of main sails. </p>
<p>But here is what I do know, and I think you and most here would agree: There is no god###ned excuse for a professional blogger on the right not going through the basic steps Aplebaum took before breathlessly posting up some [what may have been] click bait garbage.</p>
<p>There is no excuse, no excuse at all for an habitual lack of due diligence in &#8220;reporting&#8221; ostensible facts to others.</p>
<p>What possible purpose does it serve? It is in fact destructive at every turn. </p>
<p>The basic principles of historical reportage are drilled into every liberal arts kid who has taken historiography 110. [ Well, maybe not exactly, since that course is often a 450 and above level course taken to qualify for the major &#8230;] </p>
<p>In any event, some level of critical ability should have by now been cultivated by every college graduate now over 40. You don&#8217;t need a shelf full of logic texts, or to have made a special study of Collingwood (there you go huxley) in order to do just a little fact checking,</p>
<p>But apparently, as Neo notes, Andrea Mitchell, and many others supposedly on &#8220;our side&#8221;, just cannot pass up any chance whatsoever to excitedly j#ck o## in public.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[QAnon kills, people and reputations.  Ashli Babbitt RIP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QAnon kills, people and reputations.  Ashli Babbitt RIP.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW; Barry Meislin:

That is similar to what Barnes on the Frei and Barnes podcasts that I sometimes post has been saying since months ago: that the conspiracy/Dominion stuff, especially that involving other countries was a con designed to distract and make the lawyers and others who fell for it look foolish.  Fairly early on (but not quite early enough) the actual Trump lawyers dissociated from it, although others like Powell succumbed and have been greatly damaged.  Barnes smelled a rat from the start and got some flak for it from some listeners, but he was correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW; Barry Meislin:</p>
<p>That is similar to what Barnes on the Frei and Barnes podcasts that I sometimes post has been saying since months ago: that the conspiracy/Dominion stuff, especially that involving other countries was a con designed to distract and make the lawyers and others who fell for it look foolish.  Fairly early on (but not quite early enough) the actual Trump lawyers dissociated from it, although others like Powell succumbed and have been greatly damaged.  Barnes smelled a rat from the start and got some flak for it from some listeners, but he was correct.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 17:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fredrick:

I&#039;m trolling you now with this link, here is the POF:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AB07P

But POF aside, did you ever actually wrestle, you know, the sport.  I did.  So try another line.

So you admitted that Nancy didn&#039;t sign the EOs, so &quot;we&quot; are making progress.  &quot;Long ago in legislature far away there was Nancy and her crack team that decided not to write laws but to draft Executive Orders ....&quot; Ok, that works for you.  It couldn&#039;t have been Creepy Joe&#039;s crack team, or team on crack/meth?   And who again is moving goal posts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredrick:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trolling you now with this link, here is the POF:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AB07P" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AB07P</a></p>
<p>But POF aside, did you ever actually wrestle, you know, the sport.  I did.  So try another line.</p>
<p>So you admitted that Nancy didn&#8217;t sign the EOs, so &#8220;we&#8221; are making progress.  &#8220;Long ago in legislature far away there was Nancy and her crack team that decided not to write laws but to draft Executive Orders &#8230;.&#8221; Ok, that works for you.  It couldn&#8217;t have been Creepy Joe&#8217;s crack team, or team on crack/meth?   And who again is moving goal posts?</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om:&lt;i&gt;Did she sign the EOs?&lt;/i&gt;

Presidents sign EOs, but there are whole teams involved in drafting them... so you&#039;re moving the goalposts now. Those EOs were prepared long ago and seen by a lot of people before being put in Biden&#039;s hands to sign them.

&lt;i&gt;Indeed POF is trolling you&lt;/i&gt;

Well, good of you to come out and say it.  Keep believing that WWE smackdown is real and go on letting them pick your pockets I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om:<i>Did she sign the EOs?</i></p>
<p>Presidents sign EOs, but there are whole teams involved in drafting them&#8230; so you&#8217;re moving the goalposts now. Those EOs were prepared long ago and seen by a lot of people before being put in Biden&#8217;s hands to sign them.</p>
<p><i>Indeed POF is trolling you</i></p>
<p>Well, good of you to come out and say it.  Keep believing that WWE smackdown is real and go on letting them pick your pockets I guess.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW, yer most welcome.
That guy is pretty incredible. Exceptionally thorough and a genius...so it seems to me.
(Fortunately, he&#039;s on the side of good...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW, yer most welcome.<br />
That guy is pretty incredible. Exceptionally thorough and a genius&#8230;so it seems to me.<br />
(Fortunately, he&#8217;s on the side of good&#8230;)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK Fredrick prove the negative about Nancy Pelosi.  Did she sign the EOs? It could have been the work of Lyn Cheney after all. It&#039;s put up or shut up time.

Indeed POF is trolling you, you are quick today.  But the POF is truly a sham.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Fredrick prove the negative about Nancy Pelosi.  Did she sign the EOs? It could have been the work of Lyn Cheney after all. It&#8217;s put up or shut up time.</p>
<p>Indeed POF is trolling you, you are quick today.  But the POF is truly a sham.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om:&lt;i&gt;those EOs that Creepy Jo signed didn’t go through Nancy Pelosi&lt;/i&gt;

How do you know they didn&#039;t? They went through someone, they didn&#039;t come out of Biden&#039;s head.

&lt;i&gt;who is in charge after all. LOL&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;People like Nancy Pelosi&quot;, &quot;the people who do the paying&quot;. She&#039;s not the only one, obviously.

&lt;i&gt;that’s why we need the Party Of Fredrick (POF)&lt;/i&gt;

Is today Opposite Day?  A sham national party system is not fixed by more parties, and these aren&#039;t my words so I assume you&#039;re just trying to troll.  

A sham national party system is fixed by waking up to the reality of where the power is, and by whom and for whom that power is exercised, instead of being distracted by a theater presented to you by people that you know for a fact have been trying to deceive you for decades. 

Power has to be opposed by other power, and I keep recommending that you find that in your state and local officials. Their party labels might be more or less meaningful but I guarantee that they have more in common with you than the swamp denizens in Washington DC, and they are a lot easier to get rid of when they won&#039;t listen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om:<i>those EOs that Creepy Jo signed didn’t go through Nancy Pelosi</i></p>
<p>How do you know they didn&#8217;t? They went through someone, they didn&#8217;t come out of Biden&#8217;s head.</p>
<p><i>who is in charge after all. LOL</i></p>
<p>&#8220;People like Nancy Pelosi&#8221;, &#8220;the people who do the paying&#8221;. She&#8217;s not the only one, obviously.</p>
<p><i>that’s why we need the Party Of Fredrick (POF)</i></p>
<p>Is today Opposite Day?  A sham national party system is not fixed by more parties, and these aren&#8217;t my words so I assume you&#8217;re just trying to troll.  </p>
<p>A sham national party system is fixed by waking up to the reality of where the power is, and by whom and for whom that power is exercised, instead of being distracted by a theater presented to you by people that you know for a fact have been trying to deceive you for decades. </p>
<p>Power has to be opposed by other power, and I keep recommending that you find that in your state and local officials. Their party labels might be more or less meaningful but I guarantee that they have more in common with you than the swamp denizens in Washington DC, and they are a lot easier to get rid of when they won&#8217;t listen.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fredrick:

I&#039;m very skeptical about what you write.
  
Funny that those EOs that Creepy Jo signed didn&#039;t go through Nancy Pelosi, who is in charge after all.  LOL

Those who ride the tiger often find they are not really in charge of where the tiger takes them.  

But the Democrats and Republicans are just the same, that&#039;s why we need the Party Of Fredrick (POF).  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredrick:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very skeptical about what you write.</p>
<p>Funny that those EOs that Creepy Jo signed didn&#8217;t go through Nancy Pelosi, who is in charge after all.  LOL</p>
<p>Those who ride the tiger often find they are not really in charge of where the tiger takes them.  </p>
<p>But the Democrats and Republicans are just the same, that&#8217;s why we need the Party Of Fredrick (POF).  🙂</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om:&lt;i&gt;Foot soldiers in the world of Fredrick&lt;/i&gt;

All the people you listed are people to whom bones are thrown. Kendi is a professor who gets paid a lot to say little, he holds no office. AOC, Omar, Tlaib are backbench Congressmen who make a lot of noise and get a lot of press; like Bernie Sanders they are there to keep the progressives voting Dem. 

I suggest you look up &quot;kayfabe&quot;. Your list of heels and faces that you seem to think are in charge reads to me as though you&#039;re saying that Roman Reigns and Drew Macintyre are feared through the WWE.

Aren&#039;t you skeptical at all about what you read?  Why are these the faces plastered all over the news? Who wants you to believe that and why?

&lt;i&gt;Who again is in charge of the Democrats (aka the same as the Republicans)?&lt;/i&gt;

People like Nancy Pelosi who have the power to direct tax money, and the &quot;oligarchs and globalists&quot; to whom she and the others like her direct that money. Pay attention to the people who get paid, and the people who do the paying, and not the heels and faces in the latest smackdown.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om:<i>Foot soldiers in the world of Fredrick</i></p>
<p>All the people you listed are people to whom bones are thrown. Kendi is a professor who gets paid a lot to say little, he holds no office. AOC, Omar, Tlaib are backbench Congressmen who make a lot of noise and get a lot of press; like Bernie Sanders they are there to keep the progressives voting Dem. </p>
<p>I suggest you look up &#8220;kayfabe&#8221;. Your list of heels and faces that you seem to think are in charge reads to me as though you&#8217;re saying that Roman Reigns and Drew Macintyre are feared through the WWE.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you skeptical at all about what you read?  Why are these the faces plastered all over the news? Who wants you to believe that and why?</p>
<p><i>Who again is in charge of the Democrats (aka the same as the Republicans)?</i></p>
<p>People like Nancy Pelosi who have the power to direct tax money, and the &#8220;oligarchs and globalists&#8221; to whom she and the others like her direct that money. Pay attention to the people who get paid, and the people who do the paying, and not the heels and faces in the latest smackdown.</p>
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