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		By: Doug		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/23/biden-china-and-our-power-grid-whatever-could-go-wrong/#comment-2537014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our utility companies should not need to have government regulation to prohibit them from using Chinese products into their generation and distribution systems.  Their management, shareholders, and customers should exercise a little common sense and not buy, or support buying, the cheapest solutions from sources that are &quot;unreliable&quot; because they will on doubt turn against us when the it suits them.  I learned this first hand with the Chinese almost three decades ago.  As individuals we need to do what is right on our own regardless of government action or inaction.  Historically people were smart enough to realize how to treat real and potential enemies.  What has happened?  Too many years of being naive sheltering from the world&#039;s harsh realities?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our utility companies should not need to have government regulation to prohibit them from using Chinese products into their generation and distribution systems.  Their management, shareholders, and customers should exercise a little common sense and not buy, or support buying, the cheapest solutions from sources that are &#8220;unreliable&#8221; because they will on doubt turn against us when the it suits them.  I learned this first hand with the Chinese almost three decades ago.  As individuals we need to do what is right on our own regardless of government action or inaction.  Historically people were smart enough to realize how to treat real and potential enemies.  What has happened?  Too many years of being naive sheltering from the world&#8217;s harsh realities?</p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Illyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://unherd.com/2021/01/how-china-could-turn-off-britains-lights/?tl_inbound=1&#038;tl_groups[0]=18743&#038;tl_period_type=3  

From the article: 

Chinese companies have Communist Party cells active inside them — the secretary of the cell is the most powerful person in the company. After all, he (and it normally it is a he) represents the masters in Beijing and can over-rule the company’s board. However, conflict between a company board and party cell is hardly common. In 2016, President Xi decreed that the positions of party secretary and chairman of a Chinese company’s board should be occupied by the same person.

All of this applies to the state-owned China General Nuclear Power Group (CGN), which owns a third of the nuclear power station being built at Hinkley Point and hopes to be involved in the construction of two more nuclear plants, at Sizewell in Suffolk and Bradwell in Essex. The personnel of CGN is typical of any CCP-sponsored company. Until a few months ago, its chairman in Shenzhen, was a man called He Yu, who doubled as the secretary of the company’s Communist Party cell. He was instrumental in securing CGN’s investment in the Hinkley power plant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://unherd.com/2021/01/how-china-could-turn-off-britains-lights/?tl_inbound=1&#038;tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&#038;tl_period_type=3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://unherd.com/2021/01/how-china-could-turn-off-britains-lights/?tl_inbound=1&#038;tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&#038;tl_period_type=3</a>  </p>
<p>From the article: </p>
<p>Chinese companies have Communist Party cells active inside them — the secretary of the cell is the most powerful person in the company. After all, he (and it normally it is a he) represents the masters in Beijing and can over-rule the company’s board. However, conflict between a company board and party cell is hardly common. In 2016, President Xi decreed that the positions of party secretary and chairman of a Chinese company’s board should be occupied by the same person.</p>
<p>All of this applies to the state-owned China General Nuclear Power Group (CGN), which owns a third of the nuclear power station being built at Hinkley Point and hopes to be involved in the construction of two more nuclear plants, at Sizewell in Suffolk and Bradwell in Essex. The personnel of CGN is typical of any CCP-sponsored company. Until a few months ago, its chairman in Shenzhen, was a man called He Yu, who doubled as the secretary of the company’s Communist Party cell. He was instrumental in securing CGN’s investment in the Hinkley power plant.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t happen to a nicer bunch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t happen to a nicer bunch.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/23/biden-china-and-our-power-grid-whatever-could-go-wrong/#comment-2536978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOAF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;electricity rationing via remote control of consumer power uses such as ... electric-car charging&quot;

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.  But seriously, ROTFLMAO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;electricity rationing via remote control of consumer power uses such as &#8230; electric-car charging&#8221;</p>
<p>Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.  But seriously, ROTFLMAO.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/23/biden-china-and-our-power-grid-whatever-could-go-wrong/#comment-2536972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 00:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Foster: &quot;Many industrial processes use a lot of electricity, and countries that maintain a reliable and cost-effective electrical infrastructure will have a huge economic advantage when it comes to manufacturing.&quot;

Yes. It is as if the warmers/greens   can&#039;t see that our  standard of living is due to reliable energy at affordable prices and a balanced economy. With the Chinese trying to become the world&#039;s supplier of manufactured goods, you would think they would see that we need an economy that is not over dependent on China.  If nothing else, the pandemic has shown this to be true. China actually has a lot of leverage over us in many areas of manufacturing.  Then, of course, there&#039;s the fact that China is  continuing to build coal fired power plants at a rapid clip.  I&#039;ll believe it&#039;s a crisis when the Paris Climate Accords nations tell the Chinese to quit building coal fired plants.  (Not holding my breath on that one.)

Your German example is also plain to see for any who are interested. 

I feel like  a toothless old lion I saw in Africa. Roaring at the sky and anyone who will listen while knowing it&#039;s just noise blowing in the wind. But, like the lion, it makes me feel like I&#039;m still alive. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Foster: &#8220;Many industrial processes use a lot of electricity, and countries that maintain a reliable and cost-effective electrical infrastructure will have a huge economic advantage when it comes to manufacturing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. It is as if the warmers/greens   can&#8217;t see that our  standard of living is due to reliable energy at affordable prices and a balanced economy. With the Chinese trying to become the world&#8217;s supplier of manufactured goods, you would think they would see that we need an economy that is not over dependent on China.  If nothing else, the pandemic has shown this to be true. China actually has a lot of leverage over us in many areas of manufacturing.  Then, of course, there&#8217;s the fact that China is  continuing to build coal fired power plants at a rapid clip.  I&#8217;ll believe it&#8217;s a crisis when the Paris Climate Accords nations tell the Chinese to quit building coal fired plants.  (Not holding my breath on that one.)</p>
<p>Your German example is also plain to see for any who are interested. </p>
<p>I feel like  a toothless old lion I saw in Africa. Roaring at the sky and anyone who will listen while knowing it&#8217;s just noise blowing in the wind. But, like the lion, it makes me feel like I&#8217;m still alive. 🙂</p>
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		By: David+Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David+Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 23:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Germany, which has made massive investments in &#039;green&#039; energy and has deleted its nuclear plants, is looking at electricity rationing via remote control of consumer power uses such as heating and electric-car charging:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/01/19/germany-weighs-electricity-rationing-scheme-to-stabilize-its-now-shaky-green-power-grid/

Many industrial processes use a lot of electricity, and countries that maintain a reliable and cost-effective electrical infrastructure will have a huge economic advantage when it comes to manufacturing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany, which has made massive investments in &#8216;green&#8217; energy and has deleted its nuclear plants, is looking at electricity rationing via remote control of consumer power uses such as heating and electric-car charging:</p>
<p><a href="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/01/19/germany-weighs-electricity-rationing-scheme-to-stabilize-its-now-shaky-green-power-grid/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/01/19/germany-weighs-electricity-rationing-scheme-to-stabilize-its-now-shaky-green-power-grid/</a></p>
<p>Many industrial processes use a lot of electricity, and countries that maintain a reliable and cost-effective electrical infrastructure will have a huge economic advantage when it comes to manufacturing.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/23/biden-china-and-our-power-grid-whatever-could-go-wrong/#comment-2536958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Reliance on “green” energy is going to result in frequent power outages.&quot;


And that&#039;s when all the nice white people who were so upset by Trump&#039;s mean tweets vote for someone who makes Trump look like Casper Milquetoast.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reliance on “green” energy is going to result in frequent power outages.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s when all the nice white people who were so upset by Trump&#8217;s mean tweets vote for someone who makes Trump look like Casper Milquetoast.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The end game, though, is control.&quot;


That may be the case in Europe, where the governing elite are serious about actually running things.  I&#039;m not sure that it&#039;s true in America, where virtue-signaling seems to be the primary motivation for most things.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The end game, though, is control.&#8221;</p>
<p>That may be the case in Europe, where the governing elite are serious about actually running things.  I&#8217;m not sure that it&#8217;s true in America, where virtue-signaling seems to be the primary motivation for most things.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/23/biden-china-and-our-power-grid-whatever-could-go-wrong/#comment-2536954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[G.B., yes, the warmers will always have a reason to ignore the facts. Control of energy equals control of the population. Making it scarce and costly means that those who are favored by the rulers will get more. I&#039;m sure there are those who really believe  in the idea of a world on fire. Also people willing to believe they can really save the world by cutting fossil fuel usage.  That is the purpose of all the propaganda - inspire fear, get people  to comply.  (Think Greta Thunberg.) The  end game, though,  is control.  

It&#039;s somewhat akin to the lockdown strategy for defeating the virus.  The lockdowns&#039;  knock on effects  maybe worse than the pandemic itself.  Just as substituting solar and wind for fossil fuels will certainly be worse than adapting to whatever warming will happen in the next 100 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.B., yes, the warmers will always have a reason to ignore the facts. Control of energy equals control of the population. Making it scarce and costly means that those who are favored by the rulers will get more. I&#8217;m sure there are those who really believe  in the idea of a world on fire. Also people willing to believe they can really save the world by cutting fossil fuel usage.  That is the purpose of all the propaganda &#8211; inspire fear, get people  to comply.  (Think Greta Thunberg.) The  end game, though,  is control.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s somewhat akin to the lockdown strategy for defeating the virus.  The lockdowns&#8217;  knock on effects  maybe worse than the pandemic itself.  Just as substituting solar and wind for fossil fuels will certainly be worse than adapting to whatever warming will happen in the next 100 years.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wryly amused by a complaint from my left-wing niece in southern California complaining about the recent two-day power outage because of the winds.  She&#039;s sure it&#039;s &quot;climate change&quot; making the winds more common. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s really any proof of that, plus, if California utilities and California legislators hadn&#039;t pushed investment in all of this &quot;green&quot; technology instead of putting money into line and equipment maintenance, there would be fewer power-caused fires.  The connector which failed prior to the Paradise fire had been there for one hundred years without being replaced.

Reliance on &quot;green&quot; energy is going to result in frequent power outages.  It will be like living in India, where we knew electricity would go out for hours at a time, but just not always when.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wryly amused by a complaint from my left-wing niece in southern California complaining about the recent two-day power outage because of the winds.  She&#8217;s sure it&#8217;s &#8220;climate change&#8221; making the winds more common. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s really any proof of that, plus, if California utilities and California legislators hadn&#8217;t pushed investment in all of this &#8220;green&#8221; technology instead of putting money into line and equipment maintenance, there would be fewer power-caused fires.  The connector which failed prior to the Paradise fire had been there for one hundred years without being replaced.</p>
<p>Reliance on &#8220;green&#8221; energy is going to result in frequent power outages.  It will be like living in India, where we knew electricity would go out for hours at a time, but just not always when.</p>
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