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		By: Steve Walser		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/21/the-nineteen-eighty-four-election-and-the-control-of-history/#comment-2536925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Walser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Panopticon is a perfect image for the relationship between government and it&#039;s citizenry that the left wants to build. Thank you for that reminder of VDH&#039;s excellent piece. 
I think that a shorthand way to identify where one stands on issues of freedom  and equality is incapsulated in whether one holds to the 1776 or the 1619 Project. There the two roads diverge and one, IMHO, leads off the cliff!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Panopticon is a perfect image for the relationship between government and it&#8217;s citizenry that the left wants to build. Thank you for that reminder of VDH&#8217;s excellent piece.<br />
I think that a shorthand way to identify where one stands on issues of freedom  and equality is incapsulated in whether one holds to the 1776 or the 1619 Project. There the two roads diverge and one, IMHO, leads off the cliff!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2021 01:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jason Whitlock just doubled down. 
(see my comment January 22, 2021 at 1:09 am) 
Bravest man in  America today.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/whitlock-i-stand-by-my-comparison-of-blm-to-the-kkk--no-matter-who-might-object]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Whitlock just doubled down.<br />
(see my comment January 22, 2021 at 1:09 am)<br />
Bravest man in  America today.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/whitlock-i-stand-by-my-comparison-of-blm-to-the-kkk--no-matter-who-might-object" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/whitlock-i-stand-by-my-comparison-of-blm-to-the-kkk&#8211;no-matter-who-might-object</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[QAnon kills, Yammer, and yet you peddle it.   

Ashli Babbitt RIP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QAnon kills, Yammer, and yet you peddle it.   </p>
<p>Ashli Babbitt RIP</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/21/the-nineteen-eighty-four-election-and-the-control-of-history/#comment-2536809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.amren.com/features/2021/01/an-open-letter-to-trump-supporters/

In many ways, Q (Qanon=fake news) was countering and pacifying the Alt Right&#039;s white nationalism and &quot;race supremacism&quot; reaction to the Left&#039;s POWER is in racism antics.

Now that people want to get off the hopium, they now choose the Amren (alt right) black pill. Q was and is a multi national, multi patriotic, world wide movement. That somehow converged with T Red&#039;s conservative movement. Just like the ALt Right although from another direction.

Interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amren.com/features/2021/01/an-open-letter-to-trump-supporters/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.amren.com/features/2021/01/an-open-letter-to-trump-supporters/</a></p>
<p>In many ways, Q (Qanon=fake news) was countering and pacifying the Alt Right&#8217;s white nationalism and &#8220;race supremacism&#8221; reaction to the Left&#8217;s POWER is in racism antics.</p>
<p>Now that people want to get off the hopium, they now choose the Amren (alt right) black pill. Q was and is a multi national, multi patriotic, world wide movement. That somehow converged with T Red&#8217;s conservative movement. Just like the ALt Right although from another direction.</p>
<p>Interesting.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/21/the-nineteen-eighty-four-election-and-the-control-of-history/#comment-2536808</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ, humanity&#039;s understanding of genetics is still at the first grade level, if not the kinder garten level.

TJ and Zaph, can anyone here help out Om from their mental and emotional breakdown? I am skipping past them to adhere to my own banishment execution, so I can&#039;t do much about it now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, humanity&#8217;s understanding of genetics is still at the first grade level, if not the kinder garten level.</p>
<p>TJ and Zaph, can anyone here help out Om from their mental and emotional breakdown? I am skipping past them to adhere to my own banishment execution, so I can&#8217;t do much about it now.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/01/21/the-nineteen-eighty-four-election-and-the-control-of-history/#comment-2536743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ:

Context is a useful thing:  &quot;suburban white folks&quot;  started this contention. As it played out it seemed that one must not question whether &quot;white&quot; added value to the argument.  The important thing is not to question the authority?  

As to your comment at 3:51, that ground has been well plowed by many on this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ:</p>
<p>Context is a useful thing:  &#8220;suburban white folks&#8221;  started this contention. As it played out it seemed that one must not question whether &#8220;white&#8221; added value to the argument.  The important thing is not to question the authority?  </p>
<p>As to your comment at 3:51, that ground has been well plowed by many on this blog.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MBunge and om duke it out. Does race matter? Or not at all? Or does it matter sometimes in some ways?

“And when I write ‘race doesn’t exist,’ I mean exists as a cultural, psychological, historical, societal reality. Race from a scientific/biological perspective is, of course, a bunch of bunk.”

I’ll defend the third part of my trichotomy. Namely, race matters to strongly genetically driven characteristics like genetic diseases, eg, Tay Sacks among Jews; Sickle Cell Anemia among black people. 

And it matters with IQ and criminal behavior. The Twins Raised Apart study at the University of Minnesota is the source of science, that is the behavioural genetics, that got Charles Murray into trouble in the mid-1990s (and almost ever since).p, in “The Bell Curve.”

But my classmate’s father, David T. Lykken, founded and led this study to re-do earlier efforts only longer, deeper, with better assessment tools. And the longitudinal study goes on, studying twins raised apart over most of their lives. (Hence my interest is longstanding.)

The key finding is this. Human inborn traits correlate between 0.2 (low) and 0.8 (high). When the twins raised apart research reached 100 subjects, the IQ positive (criminality negative) correlation was 0.7 — which is unusually high.

That was what Murray’s “The Bell Curve” reported on two pages of one very long book. Those were their findings at around 1990.

When the study reached 400 subjects, the correlation had increased to 0.78.

Somehow, when co-investigator Nancy [last name] published a general study with Harvard University Press (2008 or 9, I think), the settled correlation reported was 0.75.

Another finding is that IQ varies among classically defined races, and that these results are stable through the decades measuring this trait. And that this cardinal ordering — Sephardic Jew, East Asian, White, black, native or aboriginal — as we’ve seen reported in the past remains with us today.

Finally, it is worth adding that EVERY human emotional trait also exhibits some (ie, more or less) genetic loading (or determination).

This, therefore, constitutes an omnipresent noise among humans wherever we hope to find reasonableness.

Thus for me, race matters sometimes and in some ways — but not others. Sweeping generalisations only muddy the truth.

Confusion is understandable. But conflation or dissimulation about the evidence ought not to be excused.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBunge and om duke it out. Does race matter? Or not at all? Or does it matter sometimes in some ways?</p>
<p>“And when I write ‘race doesn’t exist,’ I mean exists as a cultural, psychological, historical, societal reality. Race from a scientific/biological perspective is, of course, a bunch of bunk.”</p>
<p>I’ll defend the third part of my trichotomy. Namely, race matters to strongly genetically driven characteristics like genetic diseases, eg, Tay Sacks among Jews; Sickle Cell Anemia among black people. </p>
<p>And it matters with IQ and criminal behavior. The Twins Raised Apart study at the University of Minnesota is the source of science, that is the behavioural genetics, that got Charles Murray into trouble in the mid-1990s (and almost ever since).p, in “The Bell Curve.”</p>
<p>But my classmate’s father, David T. Lykken, founded and led this study to re-do earlier efforts only longer, deeper, with better assessment tools. And the longitudinal study goes on, studying twins raised apart over most of their lives. (Hence my interest is longstanding.)</p>
<p>The key finding is this. Human inborn traits correlate between 0.2 (low) and 0.8 (high). When the twins raised apart research reached 100 subjects, the IQ positive (criminality negative) correlation was 0.7 — which is unusually high.</p>
<p>That was what Murray’s “The Bell Curve” reported on two pages of one very long book. Those were their findings at around 1990.</p>
<p>When the study reached 400 subjects, the correlation had increased to 0.78.</p>
<p>Somehow, when co-investigator Nancy [last name] published a general study with Harvard University Press (2008 or 9, I think), the settled correlation reported was 0.75.</p>
<p>Another finding is that IQ varies among classically defined races, and that these results are stable through the decades measuring this trait. And that this cardinal ordering — Sephardic Jew, East Asian, White, black, native or aboriginal — as we’ve seen reported in the past remains with us today.</p>
<p>Finally, it is worth adding that EVERY human emotional trait also exhibits some (ie, more or less) genetic loading (or determination).</p>
<p>This, therefore, constitutes an omnipresent noise among humans wherever we hope to find reasonableness.</p>
<p>Thus for me, race matters sometimes and in some ways — but not others. Sweeping generalisations only muddy the truth.</p>
<p>Confusion is understandable. But conflation or dissimulation about the evidence ought not to be excused.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 18:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In fact, I see a bunch of stories that mix the two and some that point out they are not the same. Stupid media or gas lighting?

As of right now (10:11 PST) the Federal Reg. has not received any Biden EO&#039;s
https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I see a bunch of stories that mix the two and some that point out they are not the same. Stupid media or gas lighting?</p>
<p>As of right now (10:11 PST) the Federal Reg. has not received any Biden EO&#8217;s<br />
<a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders</a></p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;On his first day in office, President Biden signed more than a dozen executive actions...&quot;

&quot;Another executive order issued Wednesday night will extend existing federal nondiscrimination protections to LGBTQ people. &quot;

This story is conflating Executive Actions with Executive Orders. They are not the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On his first day in office, President Biden signed more than a dozen executive actions&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Another executive order issued Wednesday night will extend existing federal nondiscrimination protections to LGBTQ people. &#8221;</p>
<p>This story is conflating Executive Actions with Executive Orders. They are not the same.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod on January 22, 2021 at 12:07 am said:
I am drawing a blank on your reference to Chap. 4 and immigration. My comment concerned the 1776 Report, which does have a Chap. 4 that I just now scanned. It is pretty benign 1950&#039;s or early 1960&#039;s American History, but if immigration was mentioned there I missed it during my quick scan.

Perhaps you meant to address another commenter?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod on January 22, 2021 at 12:07 am said:<br />
I am drawing a blank on your reference to Chap. 4 and immigration. My comment concerned the 1776 Report, which does have a Chap. 4 that I just now scanned. It is pretty benign 1950&#8217;s or early 1960&#8217;s American History, but if immigration was mentioned there I missed it during my quick scan.</p>
<p>Perhaps you meant to address another commenter?</p>
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