You are seguing into trolldom with that last sentence. Watch it.

As far as the legal cases go, most have been dismissed on technical grounds without a full hearing of the actual evidence. In addition, in many cases there is no access to the needed evidence to prove a case. I happen to think – and have thought from the start – that fraud of this nature would be impossible to deal with through the courts. They are not equipped to deal with such cases when there are deadlines that are so close and when the chain of evidence is gone (for example, the separation of envelopes from the ballots they contained).

You mean the person responsible for ruining ballot security in Pennsylvania this year in a double act with Pennsylvania’s appellate judges?

“…To put it simply, this so-called analysis was based on incomplete data….”

“…At this time, there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters. The numbers certified by the counties, not the uploading of voter histories into the SURE system, determines the ultimate certification of an election by the secretary….”

Given the above, seems premature to declare this…

“…it is clear that the system is ridiculously compromised. It is now nearly two months after Election Day, Pennsylvania is a disputed state and has been from the start, and ***this vote-count discrepancy is just being discovered?…any discrepancy should not take two months to be discovered and announced***”

So, just what is the purpose to push this one side without the context to understand the whole, and then leaping to this conclusion? (Don’t we hate it when Dems do that?)

Anyone can “dispute” results for all time, the fact that it is disputed by one or many doesn’t itself make the results invalid nor illegitimate. One needs proof and to present and settle it in court.

If 80+ times at bat isn’t enough to disabuse one of these massive fraud claims, then one must believe that the courts (even those with judges appointed by Trump) are so compromised that there is no possibility of good faith on their part.

If so, why complain behind a keyboard? Really!

By this logic, if one truly believes these reports and their implications, all is already lost.

The only reason to hide behind your keyboards and yak about it, is a serious lack of conviction in what y’all are talking each other up on.

Cannot tell if this is all team based oneirism or onanism. Maybe both.

Reynolds v. Sims (1964) put the kibosh on electing legislatures by anything other than population.

I am embarrassed to say that I was not clever enough to think of the electoral college system at the state level and heard the idea for the first time several months ago. (Maybe here? Maybe from you?) It would be wonderful! Unfortunately, because of the power dynamics discussed, it seems unlikely to pass.

In regard to Cook County’s dominance… bring the proven electoral college system to the states and just as in the federal system, big counties will cease to dominate the smaller counties.

As things stand, only Cook County residents have representation in Illinois.

Gordon Scott on December 30, 2020 at 9:40 am said:
Todd, “refutes” is too strong. “A state official did a lot of hand waving, while claiming that every aspect of the election was completely above suspicion,” is more accurate.

Sadly, that passes muster for most media stenographers.
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Hand-waving is only part of it. The out and out bullshit spewed is the major part. Magicians call it “misdirection”.

Wanda Murren talks about “undervotes”, as if this is an explanation. That explains differing totals for different offices. It doesn’t explain a positive difference between votes counted vs. the number of voters.

She also yammers about Philadelphia and Allegheny (Pittsburgh) counties not uploading their “full vote histories” yet. A) Why the hell not? It’s been 8 weeks. B) What critical data is in a “history” that would change the number of voters? C) Philly and Pgh both have a long and storied tradition of machine politics and the concomitant vote fraud. Expecting data from them to assist in finding fraud is like expecting a used car salesman to be honest about the milage on the odometer.