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		By: om		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill is still concerned. 

Bill the GOP has never had a cult of loyalty like the Democrat party and the Progressives, or haven&#039;t you noticed the GOPe and RINO phenomena, it&#039;s not a &quot;new&quot; thing.  As for people being &quot;unpersoned&quot; consider that the left is doing to Tulsi Gabard right now.  FOX&#039;s ratings have tanked after the Chris Wallace debate debacle and their election night games, or didn&#039;t you notice those things either? 

Again I have to ask, are your good with China Joe and K the Ho?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill is still concerned. </p>
<p>Bill the GOP has never had a cult of loyalty like the Democrat party and the Progressives, or haven&#8217;t you noticed the GOPe and RINO phenomena, it&#8217;s not a &#8220;new&#8221; thing.  As for people being &#8220;unpersoned&#8221; consider that the left is doing to Tulsi Gabard right now.  FOX&#8217;s ratings have tanked after the Chris Wallace debate debacle and their election night games, or didn&#8217;t you notice those things either? </p>
<p>Again I have to ask, are your good with China Joe and K the Ho?</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill:

In case you haven&#039;t noticed, that&#039;s the way politics has been for many years, and the left is even more extreme than the right at eating their own.  Some of it, however, is an artifact of the internet and social media, both of which exaggerate the tendencies.  It&#039;s my observation that most people who don&#039;t follow politics so assiduously and perhaps obsessively don&#039;t react in such quick and dramatic fashion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, that&#8217;s the way politics has been for many years, and the left is even more extreme than the right at eating their own.  Some of it, however, is an artifact of the internet and social media, both of which exaggerate the tendencies.  It&#8217;s my observation that most people who don&#8217;t follow politics so assiduously and perhaps obsessively don&#8217;t react in such quick and dramatic fashion.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E., on Andy McC: 
&quot;it appears to me he’s mis-representing the crux of the Texas claim&quot;, when it wasn&#039;t such a hard claim to understand.
Straw-manning has been standard fare for such Bushies as McC, and for almost all Leftists nowdays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E., on Andy McC:<br />
&#8220;it appears to me he’s mis-representing the crux of the Texas claim&#8221;, when it wasn&#8217;t such a hard claim to understand.<br />
Straw-manning has been standard fare for such Bushies as McC, and for almost all Leftists nowdays.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill,
A years long investigation of the President based on Russian propaganda.
Claims that the President was illegitimate for four years
Attempts to impeach the President using spurious charges and anonymous &#039;whistleblowers&#039;.

It doesn&#039;t seem healthy to me.

The point being, the country isn&#039;t healthy, and it didn&#039;t start with President Trump. He&#039;s just polarized the left so you can see how dangerous they have been.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
A years long investigation of the President based on Russian propaganda.<br />
Claims that the President was illegitimate for four years<br />
Attempts to impeach the President using spurious charges and anonymous &#8216;whistleblowers&#8217;.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem healthy to me.</p>
<p>The point being, the country isn&#8217;t healthy, and it didn&#8217;t start with President Trump. He&#8217;s just polarized the left so you can see how dangerous they have been.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing that&#039;s been fascinating to me is how easy it is to fall out of favor these days if a person or entity shows less than 100% fidelity to the Trump narrative.

McCarthy has been a huge supporter of that narrative. But now we know &quot;what team he was really always on&quot;. Kemp in Georgia. Ducey. Fox News accusing Bill Barr of all people of being a traitor to Trump. Meanwhile Fox News is seeingTrump&#039;s base abandon them after all they&#039;ve done because Fox is now &quot;liberal&#039;. The GOP is unpersoning people right and left no matter how loyal they have been in the past.

It doesn&#039;t seem healthy to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that&#8217;s been fascinating to me is how easy it is to fall out of favor these days if a person or entity shows less than 100% fidelity to the Trump narrative.</p>
<p>McCarthy has been a huge supporter of that narrative. But now we know &#8220;what team he was really always on&#8221;. Kemp in Georgia. Ducey. Fox News accusing Bill Barr of all people of being a traitor to Trump. Meanwhile Fox News is seeingTrump&#8217;s base abandon them after all they&#8217;ve done because Fox is now &#8220;liberal&#8217;. The GOP is unpersoning people right and left no matter how loyal they have been in the past.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem healthy to me.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E:

Montage brought up the Andrew McCarthy article two days ago in the comment thread about  &quot;Election fraud articles of the day&quot;

https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/election-fraud-articles-of-the-day/

&quot;Montage on December 9, 2020 at 9:21 pm said:

Andrew McCarthy at National Review says there is no way the SCOTUS is going to entertain the Texas lawsuit. I realize he’s out of favor at the moment in some conservative circles but he’s fairly smart and a good writer. The link is behind their paywall.&quot;

Robert Barnes reply to Andy was :

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1336827267805110273

om on December 9, 2020 at 9:41 pm said:
Montage:

here is the specific Tweet from Robert Barnes:

Robert Barnes
@Barnes_Law
·
2h
Just in case you had any doubt what team
@AndrewCMcCarthy
was really on the entire time, when he was covering for Comey before he was covering for Durham.
Quote Tweet
Andy McCarthy
@AndrewCMcCarthy
· 4h
Texas’s Frivolous Lawsuit Seeks to Overturn Election in Four Other States – my @NRO column … https://nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>Montage brought up the Andrew McCarthy article two days ago in the comment thread about  &#8220;Election fraud articles of the day&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/election-fraud-articles-of-the-day/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/election-fraud-articles-of-the-day/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Montage on December 9, 2020 at 9:21 pm said:</p>
<p>Andrew McCarthy at National Review says there is no way the SCOTUS is going to entertain the Texas lawsuit. I realize he’s out of favor at the moment in some conservative circles but he’s fairly smart and a good writer. The link is behind their paywall.&#8221;</p>
<p>Robert Barnes reply to Andy was :</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1336827267805110273" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1336827267805110273</a></p>
<p>om on December 9, 2020 at 9:41 pm said:<br />
Montage:</p>
<p>here is the specific Tweet from Robert Barnes:</p>
<p>Robert Barnes<br />
@Barnes_Law<br />
·<br />
2h<br />
Just in case you had any doubt what team<br />
@AndrewCMcCarthy<br />
was really on the entire time, when he was covering for Comey before he was covering for Durham.<br />
Quote Tweet<br />
Andy McCarthy<br />
@AndrewCMcCarthy<br />
· 4h<br />
Texas’s Frivolous Lawsuit Seeks to Overturn Election in Four Other States – my @NRO column … <a href="https://nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/</a></p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

One state suing another state over disagreement with that state&#039;s election procedures would seem to be a very anti-federalism, anti-conservative action.

I think so, at least.

Brian - I think McCarthy is correct. Even Texas&#039; Solicitor General did not sign on with Paxson.

I think(?) most GOP leadership knows this is going nowhere but they are as afraid of Trump out of power as much as they are of Trump in power. I think they know they can&#039;t win without the votes of his base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>One state suing another state over disagreement with that state&#8217;s election procedures would seem to be a very anti-federalism, anti-conservative action.</p>
<p>I think so, at least.</p>
<p>Brian &#8211; I think McCarthy is correct. Even Texas&#8217; Solicitor General did not sign on with Paxson.</p>
<p>I think(?) most GOP leadership knows this is going nowhere but they are as afraid of Trump out of power as much as they are of Trump in power. I think they know they can&#8217;t win without the votes of his base.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t seen anyone mention Andrew McCarthy-- Neo&#039;s go to legal expert.

He considers it &quot;frivolous&quot;.

I didn&#039;t read it closely, but it appears to me he&#039;s mis-representing the crux of the Texas claim. They are not calling for the SC to overturn the election, but to return the power to the state legislators, since changes were made to the voting process that are unconstitutional.

There is no guarantee that the legislators in the defendant states would appoint a different set of electors, as I understand it.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anyone mention Andrew McCarthy&#8211; Neo&#8217;s go to legal expert.</p>
<p>He considers it &#8220;frivolous&#8221;.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read it closely, but it appears to me he&#8217;s mis-representing the crux of the Texas claim. They are not calling for the SC to overturn the election, but to return the power to the state legislators, since changes were made to the voting process that are unconstitutional.</p>
<p>There is no guarantee that the legislators in the defendant states would appoint a different set of electors, as I understand it.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/texass-frivolous-lawsuit-seeks-to-overturn-election-in-four-other-states/</a></p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The start of the chain of ballot integrity is the signature verification process. Since we no longer have a person standing in front of another person claiming to be the person legally allowed to vote (unless the state has voter ID), the signature verification is the only stopgap measure to insure a legal vote is being cast.

Georgia changed it&#039;s rules so that the signature on the absentee ballot application is the signature that is matched on the returned ballot envelope, not the voter registration signature on file.

Once the ballot is accepted, there is no way for it to be identified or disallowed.

Pennsylvania changed its rules to allow any signature (including a random squiggle) to suffice as a verified signature. The only ballots that could be rejected were those without any signature.

And we know from affidavits filed in Michigan that ballots received without signatures were added from a voter from the voter verification file that hadn&#039;t already voted.

&quot;That&#039;s not proof&quot;, a willfully blind person says. 

But it certainly sets the stage for illegal votes to be accepted as valid. How many? In this election enough to swing the margin to Biden.

But that&#039;s where we are. If this election stands the only alternative will be an equal amount of fakery in heavily Republican counties in contested states. Yes, the balance will still swing to Democrat counties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The start of the chain of ballot integrity is the signature verification process. Since we no longer have a person standing in front of another person claiming to be the person legally allowed to vote (unless the state has voter ID), the signature verification is the only stopgap measure to insure a legal vote is being cast.</p>
<p>Georgia changed it&#8217;s rules so that the signature on the absentee ballot application is the signature that is matched on the returned ballot envelope, not the voter registration signature on file.</p>
<p>Once the ballot is accepted, there is no way for it to be identified or disallowed.</p>
<p>Pennsylvania changed its rules to allow any signature (including a random squiggle) to suffice as a verified signature. The only ballots that could be rejected were those without any signature.</p>
<p>And we know from affidavits filed in Michigan that ballots received without signatures were added from a voter from the voter verification file that hadn&#8217;t already voted.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s not proof&#8221;, a willfully blind person says. </p>
<p>But it certainly sets the stage for illegal votes to be accepted as valid. How many? In this election enough to swing the margin to Biden.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s where we are. If this election stands the only alternative will be an equal amount of fakery in heavily Republican counties in contested states. Yes, the balance will still swing to Democrat counties.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 20:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill:

On the contrary.  First of all, Roberts is not a conservative.  Secondly, there is a &lt;i&gt;conservative&lt;/i&gt; argument that can be used for refusing to grant cert.  It has to do with whether there is standing for one state to challenge another over these particular issues, or whether it violates the federalism principle.  It&#039;s not a slam dunk either way, IMHO, and whether the Court decides to hear the case or not has nothing to do with whether the election was won by Biden through fraud, also.

Biden may indeed have won through fraud, but even if he didn&#039;t, he won through the MSM spiking anything good about Trump and anything bad about Biden, including the Hunter story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>On the contrary.  First of all, Roberts is not a conservative.  Secondly, there is a <i>conservative</i> argument that can be used for refusing to grant cert.  It has to do with whether there is standing for one state to challenge another over these particular issues, or whether it violates the federalism principle.  It&#8217;s not a slam dunk either way, IMHO, and whether the Court decides to hear the case or not has nothing to do with whether the election was won by Biden through fraud, also.</p>
<p>Biden may indeed have won through fraud, but even if he didn&#8217;t, he won through the MSM spiking anything good about Trump and anything bad about Biden, including the Hunter story.</p>
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