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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[an update

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/12/08/a-non-exhaustive-list-of-winners-and-losers-from-the-legislative-election/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an update</p>
<p><a href="https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/12/08/a-non-exhaustive-list-of-winners-and-losers-from-the-legislative-election/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/12/08/a-non-exhaustive-list-of-winners-and-losers-from-the-legislative-election/</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[mr del toro, is about a month behind the times, we saw what happened when the opposition participated, and when it didn&#039;t, when it succeeded the regime created an alternate assembly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr del toro, is about a month behind the times, we saw what happened when the opposition participated, and when it didn&#8217;t, when it succeeded the regime created an alternate assembly</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530138</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I---personally---wouldn&#039;t take him all that seriously. (He does seem to have a knack for saying the most outlandish things.)

In this case, I think he&#039;s just trying to justify having gone after Fox News when he was POTUS, though Fox certainly deserved it (they shouldn&#039;t have criticized him, no that should not have)....

...After all, the man&#039;s a perfectionist....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8212;personally&#8212;wouldn&#8217;t take him all that seriously. (He does seem to have a knack for saying the most outlandish things.)</p>
<p>In this case, I think he&#8217;s just trying to justify having gone after Fox News when he was POTUS, though Fox certainly deserved it (they shouldn&#8217;t have criticized him, no that should not have)&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;After all, the man&#8217;s a perfectionist&#8230;.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530135</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin:

Mr. Fantasy, as you appropriately call him, has it dead wrong on this score.  (So what&#039;s new?). He did not win conservative votes because of any supposed &quot;connection&quot;.  And he did not lose those same votes because of Rush Limbaugh or Fox News.  

The fact is that as the nation&#039;s first black presidential candidate, Mr. Obama won a lot of votes from people who said &quot;well it&#039;s time for a black president,&quot; or &quot;I&#039;m gonna prove I&#039;m not racist.&quot;  So they voted in 2008 for Obama.  By 2012, they realized their earlier vote had not earned them any points with the militantly liberal crowd, so they went back to their earlier voting habits.

I have talked to a number of people -- conservatives who voted for Obama the first time but not the second -- who tell this exact story.  Rush Limbaugh had nothing to do with the phenomenon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin:</p>
<p>Mr. Fantasy, as you appropriately call him, has it dead wrong on this score.  (So what&#8217;s new?). He did not win conservative votes because of any supposed &#8220;connection&#8221;.  And he did not lose those same votes because of Rush Limbaugh or Fox News.  </p>
<p>The fact is that as the nation&#8217;s first black presidential candidate, Mr. Obama won a lot of votes from people who said &#8220;well it&#8217;s time for a black president,&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna prove I&#8217;m not racist.&#8221;  So they voted in 2008 for Obama.  By 2012, they realized their earlier vote had not earned them any points with the militantly liberal crowd, so they went back to their earlier voting habits.</p>
<p>I have talked to a number of people &#8212; conservatives who voted for Obama the first time but not the second &#8212; who tell this exact story.  Rush Limbaugh had nothing to do with the phenomenon.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530105</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 15:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The optics, my dear fellow, the optics...

And in related news...Mr. Fantasy just can&#039;t keep his mouth shut:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/obama-blames-fox-news-limbaugh-losing-connection-he-had-conservatives]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The optics, my dear fellow, the optics&#8230;</p>
<p>And in related news&#8230;Mr. Fantasy just can&#8217;t keep his mouth shut:<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/obama-blames-fox-news-limbaugh-losing-connection-he-had-conservatives" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/obama-blames-fox-news-limbaugh-losing-connection-he-had-conservatives</a></p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530076</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Barry Meislin:

First order of Hispanic gang business is always to ethnically cleanse their neighborhoods of Blacks. So I’m sure you’re onto something here. 

Perhaps if the Pritzkers gave Obama another Billion or so he could find a more convincing explanation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry Meislin:</p>
<p>First order of Hispanic gang business is always to ethnically cleanse their neighborhoods of Blacks. So I’m sure you’re onto something here. </p>
<p>Perhaps if the Pritzkers gave Obama another Billion or so he could find a more convincing explanation.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530068</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a gut feeling that the &quot;BLM factor&quot; (with a huge &quot;assist&quot; from antifa) has a lot to do with it (just &quot;a feeling&quot;, though)....

Oh, and there&#039;s ALWAYS the &quot;Obama factor&quot;:
&quot;Obama criticises Hispanic voters who picked Trump&quot;
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55081852

(Yep, Obama, with his finger on the pulse of the nation...as acute as ever....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a gut feeling that the &#8220;BLM factor&#8221; (with a huge &#8220;assist&#8221; from antifa) has a lot to do with it (just &#8220;a feeling&#8221;, though)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh, and there&#8217;s ALWAYS the &#8220;Obama factor&#8221;:<br />
&#8220;Obama criticises Hispanic voters who picked Trump&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55081852" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55081852</a></p>
<p>(Yep, Obama, with his finger on the pulse of the nation&#8230;as acute as ever&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530054</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 05:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gringo

Actually I *do* know that which you refer to.

It&#039;s all very nice if some nth generation Hispanics in Texas, NM, Arizona are less than thrilled with a tidal wave of drug-dealing human sacrificing horrors from Oaxaca, Chiapas and points further South crossing the border and eviscerating them in their own front yards. I totally get their feeling.

I&#039;m concerned about typical Republicuck response to these relatively teeny tiny data points being to go all in on pandering to the wider Hispanic vote and convincing themselves that this is a smart thing to be doing. It&#039;s not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gringo</p>
<p>Actually I *do* know that which you refer to.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very nice if some nth generation Hispanics in Texas, NM, Arizona are less than thrilled with a tidal wave of drug-dealing human sacrificing horrors from Oaxaca, Chiapas and points further South crossing the border and eviscerating them in their own front yards. I totally get their feeling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned about typical Republicuck response to these relatively teeny tiny data points being to go all in on pandering to the wider Hispanic vote and convincing themselves that this is a smart thing to be doing. It&#8217;s not.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/09/hispanics-for-trump/#comment-2530037</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 02:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo,

My wife is the child of immigrants, although not from Mexico. She and her parents very much want(ed) strict border control, as do all legal immigrants I know personally. People who assume all foreign born Americans want open borders must not know many foreign born Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo,</p>
<p>My wife is the child of immigrants, although not from Mexico. She and her parents very much want(ed) strict border control, as do all legal immigrants I know personally. People who assume all foreign born Americans want open borders must not know many foreign born Americans.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 02:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay
&lt;i&gt;I read an article a several weeks ago that contended that Republicans were getting a significant boost in Florida because of Columbian Americans.&lt;/i&gt;

That could be. ( Col&lt;b&gt;o&lt;/b&gt;mbians, BTW). 

One would expect that similarly, Venezuelans fleeing the corrupt Marxist dictatorship of Maduro and friends would also be voting Republican. However, Venezuelans have been accustomed for a century to the paternalism of the petrostate, distributing oil dollars among the population. As such, many Venezuelans who are against Chavismo/Maduro are also leftists and love big government. Consider Francisco Toro, founder and former editor of the opposition blog Caracas Chronicles. 

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/11/06/as-trump-cries-fraud-with-no-evidence-venezuelans-remember-and-shudder/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Caracas Chronicles:As Trump Cries Fraud with No Evidence, Venezuelans Remember and Shudder.&lt;/a&gt;   Francisco Toro dislikes Fidel Castro, Nicolas Maduro, Hugo Chavez- and also dislikes Donald Trump. Mr. Toro is also a graduate of Reed College, so one should not be surprised at his dislike of Republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay<br />
<i>I read an article a several weeks ago that contended that Republicans were getting a significant boost in Florida because of Columbian Americans.</i></p>
<p>That could be. ( Col<b>o</b>mbians, BTW). </p>
<p>One would expect that similarly, Venezuelans fleeing the corrupt Marxist dictatorship of Maduro and friends would also be voting Republican. However, Venezuelans have been accustomed for a century to the paternalism of the petrostate, distributing oil dollars among the population. As such, many Venezuelans who are against Chavismo/Maduro are also leftists and love big government. Consider Francisco Toro, founder and former editor of the opposition blog Caracas Chronicles. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/11/06/as-trump-cries-fraud-with-no-evidence-venezuelans-remember-and-shudder/" rel="nofollow ugc"> Caracas Chronicles:As Trump Cries Fraud with No Evidence, Venezuelans Remember and Shudder.</a>   Francisco Toro dislikes Fidel Castro, Nicolas Maduro, Hugo Chavez- and also dislikes Donald Trump. Mr. Toro is also a graduate of Reed College, so one should not be surprised at his dislike of Republicans.</p>
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