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		By: Watt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo:

Thank you for posting this.  The statement of the female witness, in particular, is riveting.  Here is my big-picture take: Trump&#039;s presidency was &quot;tainted&quot; and considered by many as &quot;illegitimate&quot; for 3+ years but, in fact, no credible election-related shenanigans were ever brought forth.  Once deer-in-the-headlights Mueller was done with his appearance before Congress, it was pretty much all over.  

In contrast, while we may never know the extent to which ballot-counting activity such as that described in the video could have changed the result of the 2020 election, we know with a good degree of certainty that there was at least SOME such activity --- and on a pretty big and biased scale judging from this video.  As such, Biden&#039;s presidency will be forever and actually tainted.  We will never know whether he is truly a &quot;legitimate&quot; president in the sense of having legally won the election.  (No, I&#039;m not going to wear a &quot;Not My President&quot; T-shirt, but that&#039;s what I&#039;ll be thinking.)

And, of course, the MSM will not acknowledge this distinction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo:</p>
<p>Thank you for posting this.  The statement of the female witness, in particular, is riveting.  Here is my big-picture take: Trump&#8217;s presidency was &#8220;tainted&#8221; and considered by many as &#8220;illegitimate&#8221; for 3+ years but, in fact, no credible election-related shenanigans were ever brought forth.  Once deer-in-the-headlights Mueller was done with his appearance before Congress, it was pretty much all over.  </p>
<p>In contrast, while we may never know the extent to which ballot-counting activity such as that described in the video could have changed the result of the 2020 election, we know with a good degree of certainty that there was at least SOME such activity &#8212; and on a pretty big and biased scale judging from this video.  As such, Biden&#8217;s presidency will be forever and actually tainted.  We will never know whether he is truly a &#8220;legitimate&#8221; president in the sense of having legally won the election.  (No, I&#8217;m not going to wear a &#8220;Not My President&#8221; T-shirt, but that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll be thinking.)</p>
<p>And, of course, the MSM will not acknowledge this distinction.</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 01:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T Firefly: I think that a lot of them are a combination of stupid, and malicious. The majority of people in the press seem to just be parrots, repeating what they are told to say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T Firefly: I think that a lot of them are a combination of stupid, and malicious. The majority of people in the press seem to just be parrots, repeating what they are told to say.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get Real says,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Bezos’ Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?) ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, &quot;wtf?&quot;, is right. Where did you, our newest contributor, come up with that?

I could not place it, until I reread what you had obviously misread.

Here is the actual quote. It neither says, nor implies that Bezos&#039; Amazon is funding the Chinese military. It simply lists two politically subversive potential beneficiaries of our ill considered or fatalistic attitude purchases.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;But you know, cutting the cord or buyi[n]g gift cards from good companies instead of funding Bezos or the Chinese military is too much to ask too, so I’ll just die instead …&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The sentence above represents two weak disjunctions formed into an implied exclusionary conditional or hypothetical, with a posed response.

Cutting the cord, or buying gift cards from good companies
instead of
funding Bezos or the Chinese military
is too much to ask so I&#039;ll die instead

The construction of the disjunctive phrases above imply in the second instance funding either Bezos or funding the Chinese military. It does not imply that Bezos is funding the Chinese military. And though he may be contributing to that in effect, I did not assert it as so.

As Copi says in his famous Introduction to Logic on the word &quot;or&quot;: &quot;The disjunction (or alternation) of two statements [predications] is formed in English by inserting the word &quot;or&quot; between them. The two component statements so combined are called disjuncts ... The English word &quot;or&quot; ...[has] two related but distinguishable meanings ... [weak or inclusive. and strong or exclusive] An inclusive disjunction is true in case one or the other or both disjuncts are true&quot;

Rather than reformulating the sentence with two nearly repeated clauses, just bear in mind the weak sense of the word &quot;or&quot;; which always implies alternatives of one or both, but never an identity or union.

Perhaps this might help you ... https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/or

&quot; ... used to connect different possibilities &quot;

And, you are welcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Real says,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Bezos’ Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?) &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, &#8220;wtf?&#8221;, is right. Where did you, our newest contributor, come up with that?</p>
<p>I could not place it, until I reread what you had obviously misread.</p>
<p>Here is the actual quote. It neither says, nor implies that Bezos&#8217; Amazon is funding the Chinese military. It simply lists two politically subversive potential beneficiaries of our ill considered or fatalistic attitude purchases.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;But you know, cutting the cord or buyi[n]g gift cards from good companies instead of funding Bezos or the Chinese military is too much to ask too, so I’ll just die instead …&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The sentence above represents two weak disjunctions formed into an implied exclusionary conditional or hypothetical, with a posed response.</p>
<p>Cutting the cord, or buying gift cards from good companies<br />
instead of<br />
funding Bezos or the Chinese military<br />
is too much to ask so I&#8217;ll die instead</p>
<p>The construction of the disjunctive phrases above imply in the second instance funding either Bezos or funding the Chinese military. It does not imply that Bezos is funding the Chinese military. And though he may be contributing to that in effect, I did not assert it as so.</p>
<p>As Copi says in his famous Introduction to Logic on the word &#8220;or&#8221;: &#8220;The disjunction (or alternation) of two statements [predications] is formed in English by inserting the word &#8220;or&#8221; between them. The two component statements so combined are called disjuncts &#8230; The English word &#8220;or&#8221; &#8230;[has] two related but distinguishable meanings &#8230; [weak or inclusive. and strong or exclusive] An inclusive disjunction is true in case one or the other or both disjuncts are true&#8221;</p>
<p>Rather than reformulating the sentence with two nearly repeated clauses, just bear in mind the weak sense of the word &#8220;or&#8221;; which always implies alternatives of one or both, but never an identity or union.</p>
<p>Perhaps this might help you &#8230; <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/or" rel="nofollow ugc">https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/or</a></p>
<p>&#8221; &#8230; used to connect different possibilities &#8221;</p>
<p>And, you are welcome.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/12/07/tremendously-compelling-testimony-from-the-michigan-hearings/#comment-2529728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 20:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is going to be grim fun, if and when POS Pere is inaugurated, to see the press clamoring for the release of his college transcripts and the results of his medical examinations.

Which will undoubtedly reveal:

Mostly, no plagiarism. Most classes not failed. Not always corrupt and accepting of bribes from foreign powers unless large amounts of money are promised. Only partly decrepit. Mostly not senile, except when he trips over the cat in the alleyway of the building thing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095845/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is going to be grim fun, if and when POS Pere is inaugurated, to see the press clamoring for the release of his college transcripts and the results of his medical examinations.</p>
<p>Which will undoubtedly reveal:</p>
<p>Mostly, no plagiarism. Most classes not failed. Not always corrupt and accepting of bribes from foreign powers unless large amounts of money are promised. Only partly decrepit. Mostly not senile, except when he trips over the cat in the alleyway of the building thing.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095845/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095845/</a></p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot; Bezos’ Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?)&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know why the Chinese military would need Amazon when they have Joe Biden P.O.S. (and eventually he hopes P.O.T.U.S as well), and his crackhead son in their pocket. Or, in the greased hands of their prostitutes as the case may be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8221; Bezos’ Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?)&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why the Chinese military would need Amazon when they have Joe Biden P.O.S. (and eventually he hopes P.O.T.U.S as well), and his crackhead son in their pocket. Or, in the greased hands of their prostitutes as the case may be.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, we have a new troll!

Welcome aboard &quot;Get Real&quot; and in reply to the spirit of your last sentence, &quot;FOAD.&quot;  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, we have a new troll!</p>
<p>Welcome aboard &#8220;Get Real&#8221; and in reply to the spirit of your last sentence, &#8220;FOAD.&#8221;  😉</p>
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		By: Get Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Get Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sure are a ton of strawmen being built up in these comments - everything from &quot;Antifa/BLM&quot; (conveniently joined together to form one super-boogeyman), LBJ (Mr. Caro is that you?), the press (the proverbial &quot;free&quot; square on the modern aggrieved conservative bingo board), Bezos&#039; Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?), and God-only knows what else was too inane to even consider when examining the rhetoric. Who cried about a Jim Crow-level fraud because not enough Republican poll workers showed up? Pathetic. No, wait... sad and pathetic. The only one of you with a real workable solution was the dude who suggested you just give up and wait patiently for death.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure are a ton of strawmen being built up in these comments &#8211; everything from &#8220;Antifa/BLM&#8221; (conveniently joined together to form one super-boogeyman), LBJ (Mr. Caro is that you?), the press (the proverbial &#8220;free&#8221; square on the modern aggrieved conservative bingo board), Bezos&#8217; Amazon funding Chinese military (wtf?), and God-only knows what else was too inane to even consider when examining the rhetoric. Who cried about a Jim Crow-level fraud because not enough Republican poll workers showed up? Pathetic. No, wait&#8230; sad and pathetic. The only one of you with a real workable solution was the dude who suggested you just give up and wait patiently for death.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW:

A lot of people are depressed about what happened in this election.  Expressing that, and even feeling powerless, is understandable.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily a permanent feeling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW:</p>
<p>A lot of people are depressed about what happened in this election.  Expressing that, and even feeling powerless, is understandable.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily a permanent feeling.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what good does whining about waiting to die do, again?

What is it in aid of, exactly?

If you would rather just die than fight back with the non-apocalyptic means still available, no matter how feeble your body or limited your capacities to do so might be, the go fucking do it. 

At this point no one is even demanding you roll out of bed, march in the streets or pony up money. &lt;i&gt;But you know, cutting the cord or buyimg gift cards from good companies instead of funding Bezos or the Chinese military is too much to ask too, so I&#039;ll just die instead ...&lt;/i&gt;

But hold off for a few days yet. Maybe if &quot; I Am Spartacus&quot; and Giuliani, and the other fighters succeed, they can for some time yet preserve the existence of a country you don&#039;t deserve to live in anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what good does whining about waiting to die do, again?</p>
<p>What is it in aid of, exactly?</p>
<p>If you would rather just die than fight back with the non-apocalyptic means still available, no matter how feeble your body or limited your capacities to do so might be, the go fucking do it. </p>
<p>At this point no one is even demanding you roll out of bed, march in the streets or pony up money. <i>But you know, cutting the cord or buyimg gift cards from good companies instead of funding Bezos or the Chinese military is too much to ask too, so I&#8217;ll just die instead &#8230;</i></p>
<p>But hold off for a few days yet. Maybe if &#8221; I Am Spartacus&#8221; and Giuliani, and the other fighters succeed, they can for some time yet preserve the existence of a country you don&#8217;t deserve to live in anyway.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Biden is inaugurated in January, it will be a serious setback, but I don&#039;t believe it means the skids are greased for an inevitable totalitarian America.

It should mean that the fight to True the Vote becomes a major GOP campaign, in any and all ways. Republicans should start examining every aspect of the voting process, asking questions and pushing back. 

Certainly we should fight like hell to prevent Covid mail-in voting from becoming the new standard.

&quot;If it&#039;s not close, they can&#039;t cheat&quot; is a clever saying, but we found out in 2020 it&#039;s not true and it&#039;s way not good enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Biden is inaugurated in January, it will be a serious setback, but I don&#8217;t believe it means the skids are greased for an inevitable totalitarian America.</p>
<p>It should mean that the fight to True the Vote becomes a major GOP campaign, in any and all ways. Republicans should start examining every aspect of the voting process, asking questions and pushing back. </p>
<p>Certainly we should fight like hell to prevent Covid mail-in voting from becoming the new standard.</p>
<p>&#8220;If it&#8217;s not close, they can&#8217;t cheat&#8221; is a clever saying, but we found out in 2020 it&#8217;s not true and it&#8217;s way not good enough.</p>
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