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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2020 02:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, PJM is has the remote MG story too.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/p-david-hornik/2020/11/30/the-hit-on-irans-chief-nuclear-weapons-scientist-questions-tentative-answers-n1180258]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, PJM is has the remote MG story too.<br />
<a href="https://pjmedia.com/columns/p-david-hornik/2020/11/30/the-hit-on-irans-chief-nuclear-weapons-scientist-questions-tentative-answers-n1180258" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/columns/p-david-hornik/2020/11/30/the-hit-on-irans-chief-nuclear-weapons-scientist-questions-tentative-answers-n1180258</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528229</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chases Eagles: I vote that the second report is indeed agitprop.
One deadly remote pick-up is a lot better for Iran&#039;s &quot;face&quot; than 62 assassins operating with impunity. I suspect reality is somewhere in the middle ground.

Somebody (probably more) in Iran knows the truth: a running gun battle with four bikers and the Santa Fe driver would be hard to miss. 
However, we know Iran lies about their lies, and it&#039;s hard to get trustworthy reports from inside the country.
Also, Israel knows what really happened.

More on why I doubt the Fars News report at ZH:
Looking at the example pix at ZH, wouldn&#039;t someone have noticed the machine gun mounted in the pick-up? The target had at least 2 cars worth of bodyguards who ought to be looking for things like that.
(Waiting for the lead car to leave before striking was expert timing, and argues that the hit team knew the routine for the trip to F&#039;s villa. The NYP only mentions three cars total; would there have been four instead, or are both counting F&#039;s own vehicle as one of three?)

Also: who drove the pick-up into position? Are there a lot of self-driving cars in Iran? Lack of a driver ought to have aroused attention.
As for F. getting out of the car himself to check a suspicious noise: not on your tin type. 
Unless he and his guards were way under standard IQ.
Any movie fan knows not to do that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chases Eagles: I vote that the second report is indeed agitprop.<br />
One deadly remote pick-up is a lot better for Iran&#8217;s &#8220;face&#8221; than 62 assassins operating with impunity. I suspect reality is somewhere in the middle ground.</p>
<p>Somebody (probably more) in Iran knows the truth: a running gun battle with four bikers and the Santa Fe driver would be hard to miss.<br />
However, we know Iran lies about their lies, and it&#8217;s hard to get trustworthy reports from inside the country.<br />
Also, Israel knows what really happened.</p>
<p>More on why I doubt the Fars News report at ZH:<br />
Looking at the example pix at ZH, wouldn&#8217;t someone have noticed the machine gun mounted in the pick-up? The target had at least 2 cars worth of bodyguards who ought to be looking for things like that.<br />
(Waiting for the lead car to leave before striking was expert timing, and argues that the hit team knew the routine for the trip to F&#8217;s villa. The NYP only mentions three cars total; would there have been four instead, or are both counting F&#8217;s own vehicle as one of three?)</p>
<p>Also: who drove the pick-up into position? Are there a lot of self-driving cars in Iran? Lack of a driver ought to have aroused attention.<br />
As for F. getting out of the car himself to check a suspicious noise: not on your tin type.<br />
Unless he and his guards were way under standard IQ.<br />
Any movie fan knows not to do that!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;One of the many many many things I have dreaded when contemplating the possibility of a Biden win is its effects on the Middle East. The nightmare of the Obama years come back, only with less charisma and &lt;b&gt;even less competence&lt;/b&gt;.&quot; -Neo

Neither Biden nor Harris has Obama&#039;s charisma (thank goodness).
Nor does anyone else on their team.
Likewise, neither of the leads has any competence, but the only thing Obama was good at was giving cover to whoever was actually managing his administration&#039;s actions.
Remember, he never knew about anything until he read it in the papers.
I would like to know who was actually running his foreign ops (wonder what Valerie Jarrett is doing these days), but one sure thing is that the same person(s) are going to be running Biden&#039;s, so the level of competence (however we define that) will be maintained.
That&#039;s not good news.
Odds are good, however, that it won&#039;t be John &quot;figurehead&quot; Kerry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the many many many things I have dreaded when contemplating the possibility of a Biden win is its effects on the Middle East. The nightmare of the Obama years come back, only with less charisma and <b>even less competence</b>.&#8221; -Neo</p>
<p>Neither Biden nor Harris has Obama&#8217;s charisma (thank goodness).<br />
Nor does anyone else on their team.<br />
Likewise, neither of the leads has any competence, but the only thing Obama was good at was giving cover to whoever was actually managing his administration&#8217;s actions.<br />
Remember, he never knew about anything until he read it in the papers.<br />
I would like to know who was actually running his foreign ops (wonder what Valerie Jarrett is doing these days), but one sure thing is that the same person(s) are going to be running Biden&#8217;s, so the level of competence (however we define that) will be maintained.<br />
That&#8217;s not good news.<br />
Odds are good, however, that it won&#8217;t be John &#8220;figurehead&#8221; Kerry.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Internet is an information super highway. Never have I been so confused about what is really going on in the world. 

&quot;...the assassination was done using an automatic machine gun operated with a remote control and not with gunmen who were on the ground... The shots were fired from an automatic machine gun which was mounted on the pickup truck and operated by remote control...Seconds later the Nisan pickup truck exploded in what looks like a self destruct mechanism.&quot;

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-nuclear-scientist-shot-mounted-remote-controlled-machine-gun

True? Agiprop? Who knows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet is an information super highway. Never have I been so confused about what is really going on in the world. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the assassination was done using an automatic machine gun operated with a remote control and not with gunmen who were on the ground&#8230; The shots were fired from an automatic machine gun which was mounted on the pickup truck and operated by remote control&#8230;Seconds later the Nisan pickup truck exploded in what looks like a self destruct mechanism.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-nuclear-scientist-shot-mounted-remote-controlled-machine-gun" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-nuclear-scientist-shot-mounted-remote-controlled-machine-gun</a></p>
<p>True? Agiprop? Who knows.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes, they really haven&#039;t made much progress, despite the imput of pakistani, north koreans and I&#039;m assuming russian scientists,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, they really haven&#8217;t made much progress, despite the imput of pakistani, north koreans and I&#8217;m assuming russian scientists,</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Israel and America need to get things (such as arms deliveries) done before January 20, 2021.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel and America need to get things (such as arms deliveries) done before January 20, 2021.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2528159</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes there is a whole lot of smoke, why was he at demavand, because that&#039;s the site of a nuclear facility discovered in 2013, the locals weren&#039;t appreciative, as there were major riots last year, as money was diverted there, but much like soleimani in baghdad he felt safe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes there is a whole lot of smoke, why was he at demavand, because that&#8217;s the site of a nuclear facility discovered in 2013, the locals weren&#8217;t appreciative, as there were major riots last year, as money was diverted there, but much like soleimani in baghdad he felt safe.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2527992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2020 16:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/irans-mohsen-fakhrizadeh-killed-hit-squad-report-says/

Wow.  Sixty-two people, says the report.   Lots of insider knowledge to make this work.
Great work, Iranian intel and security.   Sixty two bad guys wandering around fixing to kill one of your stars and....nobody noticed?

I wouldn&#039;t want to be in anything resembling intel in Iran just now.  Suspicion spreads when it&#039;s easier to believe than to believe the hated enemy is so freaking good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/irans-mohsen-fakhrizadeh-killed-hit-squad-report-says/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/irans-mohsen-fakhrizadeh-killed-hit-squad-report-says/</a></p>
<p>Wow.  Sixty-two people, says the report.   Lots of insider knowledge to make this work.<br />
Great work, Iranian intel and security.   Sixty two bad guys wandering around fixing to kill one of your stars and&#8230;.nobody noticed?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to be in anything resembling intel in Iran just now.  Suspicion spreads when it&#8217;s easier to believe than to believe the hated enemy is so freaking good.</p>
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		By: LeClerc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeClerc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anything that riles Brennan and Rhodes is, by definition, good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that riles Brennan and Rhodes is, by definition, good.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/27/the-head-of-irans-nuclear-program-is-assassinated/#comment-2527878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB.  The Iranians would have to be convinced it was easy.  A small team of spec ops guys got to set up their ambush with nobody noticing.  They got in.   They got out.   No biggy, right?
 How on Earth did that happen, the Iranians are asking themselves.
But the point is, the gunmen freaking KNEW.   If you&#039;re right about somebody signaling when the target left the parking lot....who?  Where did he come from?  Why wasn&#039;t he arrested for loitering around a secret facility?  Because he freaking worked there, has to be the answer.  The follow on to that is ominous.  What to do about it.  Likely, the guy on the inside was searched going in to work, and leaving for home.  Somehow, despite that, he had real-time commo with the shooters.   If the conclusion is nobody could have at the time of departure, everybody else being accounted for as someplace else or in a group watching each other--waiting for a bus,maybe--and whose cell phone activity is monitored. Then what?
 If he didn&#039;t mind a particularly agonizing martyrdom, then maybe a system could be ginned up that would work once and then he&#039;s caught.  But they&#039;d make him tell who his contacts are and....we don&#039;t want that.

We used to watch Seal Team on television.  Before an op, they always had a briefing explaining everything they were  going to face.  It may have been a plot device to clue in the viewers, but the point is spec ops guys know the assistant cook&#039;s mother&#039;s maiden name. The SEALs aren&#039;t the first on the target.  Same for other spec ops.   They&#039;re the trigger pullers who come after whatever intel sources there are.   Could be sigint.  Could be somebody in house on our dime.  Could be the guy with the fruit stand on the corner for the last four years.
Point is, the Iranians don&#039;t know and the gyrations to try to find out are going to be a real problem for the effort going forward, not to mention any poor schlub under suspicion.
Then, of course, there are the new regulations.   Security, by its nature, reduces the efficiency of the secured asset.   So there&#039;s always a point at which the trade off reaches &quot;enough&quot;.   This obviously wasn&#039;t &quot;enough&quot; so the new regime is going to have to be more intrusive and reduce efficiency even further.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB.  The Iranians would have to be convinced it was easy.  A small team of spec ops guys got to set up their ambush with nobody noticing.  They got in.   They got out.   No biggy, right?<br />
 How on Earth did that happen, the Iranians are asking themselves.<br />
But the point is, the gunmen freaking KNEW.   If you&#8217;re right about somebody signaling when the target left the parking lot&#8230;.who?  Where did he come from?  Why wasn&#8217;t he arrested for loitering around a secret facility?  Because he freaking worked there, has to be the answer.  The follow on to that is ominous.  What to do about it.  Likely, the guy on the inside was searched going in to work, and leaving for home.  Somehow, despite that, he had real-time commo with the shooters.   If the conclusion is nobody could have at the time of departure, everybody else being accounted for as someplace else or in a group watching each other&#8211;waiting for a bus,maybe&#8211;and whose cell phone activity is monitored. Then what?<br />
 If he didn&#8217;t mind a particularly agonizing martyrdom, then maybe a system could be ginned up that would work once and then he&#8217;s caught.  But they&#8217;d make him tell who his contacts are and&#8230;.we don&#8217;t want that.</p>
<p>We used to watch Seal Team on television.  Before an op, they always had a briefing explaining everything they were  going to face.  It may have been a plot device to clue in the viewers, but the point is spec ops guys know the assistant cook&#8217;s mother&#8217;s maiden name. The SEALs aren&#8217;t the first on the target.  Same for other spec ops.   They&#8217;re the trigger pullers who come after whatever intel sources there are.   Could be sigint.  Could be somebody in house on our dime.  Could be the guy with the fruit stand on the corner for the last four years.<br />
Point is, the Iranians don&#8217;t know and the gyrations to try to find out are going to be a real problem for the effort going forward, not to mention any poor schlub under suspicion.<br />
Then, of course, there are the new regulations.   Security, by its nature, reduces the efficiency of the secured asset.   So there&#8217;s always a point at which the trade off reaches &#8220;enough&#8221;.   This obviously wasn&#8217;t &#8220;enough&#8221; so the new regime is going to have to be more intrusive and reduce efficiency even further.</p>
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