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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay on November 23, 2020 at 12:08 pm said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I found this article to be appalling.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/when_is_a_perfect_oval_evidence_of_vote_fraud.html

Dominion has a BMD or Ballot Marking Device that can mark the little ovals on a paper ballot using a printer. The idea is that disabled folks with poor vision or motor skills can vote with a large touchscreen and then the machine creates a paper ballot that looks like it was voted by hand with a pen.

&lt;b&gt;But the machine does not print with perfect oval black marks.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
* * *
Ah, but it does!
Unless you can think of an alternative explanation.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dozen-compelling-pieces-evidence-voting-irregularities-2020-election
&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfolded, pristine mail-in ballots flagged in Georgia

At least nine observers who watched an audit last week in Georgia&#039;s razor-thin election have signed affidavits swearing they saw suspicious mail-in ballots, almost uniformly cast for Biden. The ballots were in pristine condition and had no creases on them, meaning the ballots had not been mailed in envelopes as required, according to the affidavits. 

&quot;It was pristine. There was a difference in the texture of the paper — it was as if they were intended for absentee use, but had not been used for that purpose,&quot; Susan Voyles, a poll manager with two decades of experience, wrote in her affidavit about her time at a recount center in Fulton County. &quot;There were no markings on the ballots to show where they had come from, or where they had been processed. &lt;b&gt;I observed that the markings for the candidates on these ballots were unusually uniform, perhaps even with a ballot marking device.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay on November 23, 2020 at 12:08 pm said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I found this article to be appalling.<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/when_is_a_perfect_oval_evidence_of_vote_fraud.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/when_is_a_perfect_oval_evidence_of_vote_fraud.html</a></p>
<p>Dominion has a BMD or Ballot Marking Device that can mark the little ovals on a paper ballot using a printer. The idea is that disabled folks with poor vision or motor skills can vote with a large touchscreen and then the machine creates a paper ballot that looks like it was voted by hand with a pen.</p>
<p><b>But the machine does not print with perfect oval black marks.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>* * *<br />
Ah, but it does!<br />
Unless you can think of an alternative explanation.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dozen-compelling-pieces-evidence-voting-irregularities-2020-election" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dozen-compelling-pieces-evidence-voting-irregularities-2020-election</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Unfolded, pristine mail-in ballots flagged in Georgia</p>
<p>At least nine observers who watched an audit last week in Georgia&#8217;s razor-thin election have signed affidavits swearing they saw suspicious mail-in ballots, almost uniformly cast for Biden. The ballots were in pristine condition and had no creases on them, meaning the ballots had not been mailed in envelopes as required, according to the affidavits. </p>
<p>&#8220;It was pristine. There was a difference in the texture of the paper — it was as if they were intended for absentee use, but had not been used for that purpose,&#8221; Susan Voyles, a poll manager with two decades of experience, wrote in her affidavit about her time at a recount center in Fulton County. &#8220;There were no markings on the ballots to show where they had come from, or where they had been processed. <b>I observed that the markings for the candidates on these ballots were unusually uniform, perhaps even with a ballot marking device.&#8221;</b>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wrote all of this late Tuesday night, but after reading the comments I found that most of it was also said by others here at Neo&#039;s Political Emporium of Speculative Delights, although not all points were made at the same time by the same people. Some of it has also probably been superseded by new BREAKING!! news.
However, I hate to have wasted the effort. So here is my mini-opus FWIW.
* * *

&quot;Perhaps she was misled by lying witnesses, perhaps she has gone off the deep end (the Flynn case could do it), or perhaps she has tons of convincing evidence we have yet to see.

But we don’t know.&quot; - Neo

Since Election Day, I have extended my three-day-rule to more like three weeks for a lot of the stories swirling around.  The most relevant comment for all of them is &quot;But we don&#039;t know.&quot;

That&#039;s not going to keep me from speculating, however.

I don&#039;t think Sidney Powell is crazy.
I don&#039;t think Trump&#039;s official lawyers are crazy.
(I don&#039;t even think President Trump is crazy.)

However, I do think they are disassociating her from their team for sound reasons.
One is the difference in fraud cases that Neo outlined: different kinds of cases take different legal expertise, and the Trump team has plenty on tap for those without Powell.
One is the complexity of rules about finances &#038; other constraints involving elected officials: they impose certain restrictions on what the lawyers can and can&#039;t do (such as, for example, being forced to abide by certain 35-year-long restraining orders against challenging elections**).
One is party politics.

The statement Powell put out most recently, taken in light of said swirling stories (which most readers here will have seen, so I won&#039;t look for specific links on everything), suggests to me the following scenario.

First, the statements:
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/23/sidney-powell-agrees-she-is-not-part-trump-legal-team-says-lawsuit-coming-this-week-it-will-be-epic/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Lawyer Sidney Powell said in a statement Sunday evening via Gen. (Ret.) Michael Flynn that said she understood the Trump campaign’s statement that she is not part of the campaign’s legal team and she is proceeding to file an “epic” lawsuit this week.

After Twitter suspended Powell for 12 hours, Flynn posted her statement on his Parler account, which said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;STATEMENT FROM SIDNEY POWELL TO “WE THE PEOPLE”

I agree with the campaign’s statement that I am not part of the campaign’s legal team*. &lt;b&gt;I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may —whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.&lt;/b&gt;

The evidence I’m compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President [Donald] Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates.  We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week.  It will be epic.

We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.

#WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to www.DefendingTheRepublic.org.  #KrakenOnSteroids”

Sidney Powell
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Her statement followed shorter ones made earlier on Sunday that said she agreed with the campaign’s statement and that she is “staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump &#038; other Republican candidates.”
&lt;blockquote&gt;
.@SidneyPowell1 to @WSJ:

&quot;I agree with the statement today. I will represent /#WeThePeople and seek the Truth. I intend to expose all the fraud and let the chips fall where they may. We will not allow the foundations of this great Republic to be destroyed by abject fraud.&quot; https://t.co/ZjAZ8OcreH

— Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) November 23, 2020
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Powell released the statements after the Trump campaign legal team, led by Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, released a short statement that said: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

So let&#039;s talk party politics.
The key to my scenario came from a nugget in this story***:
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2020/11/22/sidney-powell-tells-newsmax-tv-election-fraud-cases-we-file-this-week-will-be-biblical-n283517
&quot;Alleged pay-for-play kick backs to public officials, potentially even Georgia GOP Gov. Kemp for a late grant to use Dominion Voting Systems.&quot;

Look again at what Powell said in her long statement:
&quot;My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may —&lt;b&gt;whether it be upon Republicans &lt;/b&gt;or Democrats.&quot;

IMO, the GOP demanded that Trump throw Powell out of the official tent, and he had to do it to keep the (little and luke-warm) support of the Party in his election challenges.
Powell may have agreed that she needed to be freed up to do exactly what she asserts.****

FOOTNOTES
*One reference linked here, because it may not be remembered now. As we know from the general election discussion, announcing that something is so doesn&#039;t make so in fact; there are official and formal rules for being part of a legal &quot;team&quot; - as Powell takes care to say.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team
&lt;blockquote&gt;Powell was included on a list of lawyers for his team that Trump mentioned in a Nov. 14 tweet.  
...
“I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defund OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!” the president tweeted.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

**You might think I am kidding. Ignore the Atlantic&#039;s spin (think: disparate impact) and just go with the bald facts (and remember that the Democrats were not enjoined for allowing the New Black Panthers to physically threaten voters in 2008).
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-gop-just-received-another-tool-for-suppressing-votes/550052/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Thirty-five years after it was first imposed, a judge has lifted a consent decree barring the Republican National Committee from pursuing “ballot security” measures.

In their 1981 lawsuit to stop the RNC from engaging in certain practices at the polls, the Democratic National Committee attested that in a New Jersey gubernatorial election, the RNC had sent sample ballots to communities of color, and then had the names for each ballot returned as undeliverable removed from voter rolls. Democrats also alleged that the RNC hired off-duty cops to patrol majority-minority precincts, wearing “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. These details were enough to secure a consent decree between the two party organizations and the court in 1982, stopping the GOP from engaging in such voter-intimidation practices.

Except, Democrats alleged, they didn’t stop. The consent decree was updated in 1987 after Republicans created a voter-challenge list of black voters from whom letters had been returned as undeliverable, with an RNC official saying that the list could “keep the black vote down considerably.” The decree was modified again in 1990 after a court ruled the RNC had violated it by not telling state parties about its provisions, which had led to the North Carolina GOP sending 150,000 postcards to potential voters listing voting regulations, in an apparent attempt at intimidation. The GOP violated the court order again in 2004 after yet another voter-challenge list targeted black voters.

With that history of behavior in full view, federal courts moved to allow the decree to expire in December 2017, a decision that was finalized Tuesday by a federal district court. For the first time in three decades, the RNC can pursue ballot-security measures without court preclearance.

The question is whether an unfettered RNC will return to the vote-challenging and poll-watching practices that were repeatedly found to be in violation of the Voting Rights Act. Even during the decades when the Republican National Committee was under court order, schemes like challenging voters with undeliverable mail, known as “voter caging,” have flourished. Similarly, states have pursued initiatives, like voter ID, to address the undocumented specter of widespread voter fraud. Yet, as the University of California, Irvine, School of Law professor Rick Hasen argued in November at Slate, it’s unlikely that the RNC itself will be directly challenging votes in the near future. The RNC had to prove it hadn’t recently violated the consent decree in order to be freed from it, and risks ending up right back under another court order in the future if it should change course.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

***More here, but the details aren&#039;t necessary for this discussion.
These don&#039;t mention it, but Kemp is a long time Republican big-name in Georgia - he was the Secretary of State of Georgia from 2010 to 2018 and a member of the Georgia State Senate from 2003 until 2007 - and Raffensberger is also Republican.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/whats_kraken.html?utm_source=vuukle&#038;utm_medium=newsfeed
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dominion’s lobbyist, who pitched the $100 million dollar purchase of these machines, was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp’s former chief of staff. Georgia’s secretary of State Brad Raffensberger took campaign cash from the wife of a CEO of Dominion’s partner.

On Parler, Lin Wood posted:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp &#038; Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger should be investigated by the GA Bureau of Investigation. Maybe they should resign.

We The People deserve honest public officials.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wood has not been mentioned as part of the Trump Team at any time, but he and Powell are working together.


And for additional pondering, in addition to what others have noted:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/11/20/sidney-powell-larry-oconnor-n2580458
&quot;Sidney Powell Claims That Dominion Is &#039;Shredding Documents&#039; &quot;

https://notthebee.com/article/the-colorado-secretary-of-state-disappeared-a-dominion-document-and-i-have-questions



****Also just my opinion, but I suspect the main reason Hillary stuck with the Russian claims instead of actually pushing for recounts in the surprise venues where she lost to Trump was because the Democrats knew any serious investigation would reveal their own frauds on her behalf -- which were just the humdrum usual procedures, and were too little because they weren&#039;t expected to be needed - the mistake they DIDN&#039;T make this time.
Same thing with Gore&#039;s &quot;never mind&quot;: allowing recounts in ALL of Florida would not be good for the D-Party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote all of this late Tuesday night, but after reading the comments I found that most of it was also said by others here at Neo&#8217;s Political Emporium of Speculative Delights, although not all points were made at the same time by the same people. Some of it has also probably been superseded by new BREAKING!! news.<br />
However, I hate to have wasted the effort. So here is my mini-opus FWIW.<br />
* * *</p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps she was misled by lying witnesses, perhaps she has gone off the deep end (the Flynn case could do it), or perhaps she has tons of convincing evidence we have yet to see.</p>
<p>But we don’t know.&#8221; &#8211; Neo</p>
<p>Since Election Day, I have extended my three-day-rule to more like three weeks for a lot of the stories swirling around.  The most relevant comment for all of them is &#8220;But we don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not going to keep me from speculating, however.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Sidney Powell is crazy.<br />
I don&#8217;t think Trump&#8217;s official lawyers are crazy.<br />
(I don&#8217;t even think President Trump is crazy.)</p>
<p>However, I do think they are disassociating her from their team for sound reasons.<br />
One is the difference in fraud cases that Neo outlined: different kinds of cases take different legal expertise, and the Trump team has plenty on tap for those without Powell.<br />
One is the complexity of rules about finances &amp; other constraints involving elected officials: they impose certain restrictions on what the lawyers can and can&#8217;t do (such as, for example, being forced to abide by certain 35-year-long restraining orders against challenging elections**).<br />
One is party politics.</p>
<p>The statement Powell put out most recently, taken in light of said swirling stories (which most readers here will have seen, so I won&#8217;t look for specific links on everything), suggests to me the following scenario.</p>
<p>First, the statements:<br />
<a href="https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/23/sidney-powell-agrees-she-is-not-part-trump-legal-team-says-lawsuit-coming-this-week-it-will-be-epic/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/23/sidney-powell-agrees-she-is-not-part-trump-legal-team-says-lawsuit-coming-this-week-it-will-be-epic/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lawyer Sidney Powell said in a statement Sunday evening via Gen. (Ret.) Michael Flynn that said she understood the Trump campaign’s statement that she is not part of the campaign’s legal team and she is proceeding to file an “epic” lawsuit this week.</p>
<p>After Twitter suspended Powell for 12 hours, Flynn posted her statement on his Parler account, which said:</p>
<blockquote><p>STATEMENT FROM SIDNEY POWELL TO “WE THE PEOPLE”</p>
<p>I agree with the campaign’s statement that I am not part of the campaign’s legal team*. <b>I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.</b></p>
<p><b>My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may —whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.</b></p>
<p>The evidence I’m compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President [Donald] Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates.  We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week.  It will be epic.</p>
<p>We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.</p>
<p>#WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.</p>
<p>You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to <a href="http://www.DefendingTheRepublic.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.DefendingTheRepublic.org</a>.  #KrakenOnSteroids”</p>
<p>Sidney Powell
</p></blockquote>
<p>Her statement followed shorter ones made earlier on Sunday that said she agreed with the campaign’s statement and that she is “staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump &amp; other Republican candidates.”</p>
<blockquote><p>
.@SidneyPowell1 to @WSJ:</p>
<p>&#8220;I agree with the statement today. I will represent /#WeThePeople and seek the Truth. I intend to expose all the fraud and let the chips fall where they may. We will not allow the foundations of this great Republic to be destroyed by abject fraud.&#8221; <a href="https://t.co/ZjAZ8OcreH" rel="nofollow ugc">https://t.co/ZjAZ8OcreH</a></p>
<p>— Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) November 23, 2020
</p></blockquote>
<p>Powell released the statements after the Trump campaign legal team, led by Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, released a short statement that said: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>So let&#8217;s talk party politics.<br />
The key to my scenario came from a nugget in this story***:<br />
<a href="https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2020/11/22/sidney-powell-tells-newsmax-tv-election-fraud-cases-we-file-this-week-will-be-biblical-n283517" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2020/11/22/sidney-powell-tells-newsmax-tv-election-fraud-cases-we-file-this-week-will-be-biblical-n283517</a><br />
&#8220;Alleged pay-for-play kick backs to public officials, potentially even Georgia GOP Gov. Kemp for a late grant to use Dominion Voting Systems.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look again at what Powell said in her long statement:<br />
&#8220;My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may —<b>whether it be upon Republicans </b>or Democrats.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, the GOP demanded that Trump throw Powell out of the official tent, and he had to do it to keep the (little and luke-warm) support of the Party in his election challenges.<br />
Powell may have agreed that she needed to be freed up to do exactly what she asserts.****</p>
<p>FOOTNOTES<br />
*One reference linked here, because it may not be remembered now. As we know from the general election discussion, announcing that something is so doesn&#8217;t make so in fact; there are official and formal rules for being part of a legal &#8220;team&#8221; &#8211; as Powell takes care to say.<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Powell was included on a list of lawyers for his team that Trump mentioned in a Nov. 14 tweet.<br />
&#8230;<br />
“I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defund OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!” the president tweeted.
</p></blockquote>
<p>**You might think I am kidding. Ignore the Atlantic&#8217;s spin (think: disparate impact) and just go with the bald facts (and remember that the Democrats were not enjoined for allowing the New Black Panthers to physically threaten voters in 2008).<br />
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-gop-just-received-another-tool-for-suppressing-votes/550052/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-gop-just-received-another-tool-for-suppressing-votes/550052/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thirty-five years after it was first imposed, a judge has lifted a consent decree barring the Republican National Committee from pursuing “ballot security” measures.</p>
<p>In their 1981 lawsuit to stop the RNC from engaging in certain practices at the polls, the Democratic National Committee attested that in a New Jersey gubernatorial election, the RNC had sent sample ballots to communities of color, and then had the names for each ballot returned as undeliverable removed from voter rolls. Democrats also alleged that the RNC hired off-duty cops to patrol majority-minority precincts, wearing “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. These details were enough to secure a consent decree between the two party organizations and the court in 1982, stopping the GOP from engaging in such voter-intimidation practices.</p>
<p>Except, Democrats alleged, they didn’t stop. The consent decree was updated in 1987 after Republicans created a voter-challenge list of black voters from whom letters had been returned as undeliverable, with an RNC official saying that the list could “keep the black vote down considerably.” The decree was modified again in 1990 after a court ruled the RNC had violated it by not telling state parties about its provisions, which had led to the North Carolina GOP sending 150,000 postcards to potential voters listing voting regulations, in an apparent attempt at intimidation. The GOP violated the court order again in 2004 after yet another voter-challenge list targeted black voters.</p>
<p>With that history of behavior in full view, federal courts moved to allow the decree to expire in December 2017, a decision that was finalized Tuesday by a federal district court. For the first time in three decades, the RNC can pursue ballot-security measures without court preclearance.</p>
<p>The question is whether an unfettered RNC will return to the vote-challenging and poll-watching practices that were repeatedly found to be in violation of the Voting Rights Act. Even during the decades when the Republican National Committee was under court order, schemes like challenging voters with undeliverable mail, known as “voter caging,” have flourished. Similarly, states have pursued initiatives, like voter ID, to address the undocumented specter of widespread voter fraud. Yet, as the University of California, Irvine, School of Law professor Rick Hasen argued in November at Slate, it’s unlikely that the RNC itself will be directly challenging votes in the near future. The RNC had to prove it hadn’t recently violated the consent decree in order to be freed from it, and risks ending up right back under another court order in the future if it should change course.
</p></blockquote>
<p>***More here, but the details aren&#8217;t necessary for this discussion.<br />
These don&#8217;t mention it, but Kemp is a long time Republican big-name in Georgia &#8211; he was the Secretary of State of Georgia from 2010 to 2018 and a member of the Georgia State Senate from 2003 until 2007 &#8211; and Raffensberger is also Republican.<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/whats_kraken.html?utm_source=vuukle&#038;utm_medium=newsfeed" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/whats_kraken.html?utm_source=vuukle&#038;utm_medium=newsfeed</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Dominion’s lobbyist, who pitched the $100 million dollar purchase of these machines, was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp’s former chief of staff. Georgia’s secretary of State Brad Raffensberger took campaign cash from the wife of a CEO of Dominion’s partner.</p>
<p>On Parler, Lin Wood posted:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp &amp; Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger should be investigated by the GA Bureau of Investigation. Maybe they should resign.</p>
<p>We The People deserve honest public officials.
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<p>Wood has not been mentioned as part of the Trump Team at any time, but he and Powell are working together.</p>
<p>And for additional pondering, in addition to what others have noted:<br />
<a href="https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/11/20/sidney-powell-larry-oconnor-n2580458" rel="nofollow ugc">https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/11/20/sidney-powell-larry-oconnor-n2580458</a><br />
&#8220;Sidney Powell Claims That Dominion Is &#8216;Shredding Documents&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://notthebee.com/article/the-colorado-secretary-of-state-disappeared-a-dominion-document-and-i-have-questions" rel="nofollow ugc">https://notthebee.com/article/the-colorado-secretary-of-state-disappeared-a-dominion-document-and-i-have-questions</a></p>
<p>****Also just my opinion, but I suspect the main reason Hillary stuck with the Russian claims instead of actually pushing for recounts in the surprise venues where she lost to Trump was because the Democrats knew any serious investigation would reveal their own frauds on her behalf &#8212; which were just the humdrum usual procedures, and were too little because they weren&#8217;t expected to be needed &#8211; the mistake they DIDN&#8217;T make this time.<br />
Same thing with Gore&#8217;s &#8220;never mind&#8221;: allowing recounts in ALL of Florida would not be good for the D-Party.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 04:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; Her charges will die unborn, or postpartum, just like Democrats treat an unwanted child.

Obviously, my theory is open to critique.&lt;/b&gt;

No, it won&#039;t, no matter what happens to Trump. Cause God said so. And God wins, unless you have forgotten the power the of Most High.

Brian, if not for Q&#039;s psychological warfare operations, you would have folded up like a lawn chair when they stole the election 2020.

&lt;b&gt;Geoffrey Britain on November 23, 2020 at 9:20 pm said:&lt;/b&gt;

None of that is going to happen, because I am here.

People woke up too late, that&#039;s all. Seniority of vibration. Those of us that got ahead of the plan, was given more input.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> Her charges will die unborn, or postpartum, just like Democrats treat an unwanted child.</p>
<p>Obviously, my theory is open to critique.</b></p>
<p>No, it won&#8217;t, no matter what happens to Trump. Cause God said so. And God wins, unless you have forgotten the power the of Most High.</p>
<p>Brian, if not for Q&#8217;s psychological warfare operations, you would have folded up like a lawn chair when they stole the election 2020.</p>
<p><b>Geoffrey Britain on November 23, 2020 at 9:20 pm said:</b></p>
<p>None of that is going to happen, because I am here.</p>
<p>People woke up too late, that&#8217;s all. Seniority of vibration. Those of us that got ahead of the plan, was given more input.</p>
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		By: No Kraken &#8211; not enough protests. Election fraud only stops if the cheaters lose anyway. &#8211; Tom Grey &#8211; Families, Freedom, Responsibility		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Kraken &#8211; not enough protests. Election fraud only stops if the cheaters lose anyway. &#8211; Tom Grey &#8211; Families, Freedom, Responsibility]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 03:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The election fraud cases: the already-thick plot thickens over Sidney Powell’s role – The New Ne&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The election fraud cases: the already-thick plot thickens over Sidney Powell’s role – The New Ne&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
&quot;Stats Prove Ballot Stuffing&quot;:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/morris-ballotstuffing-phoenix-detroit/2020/11/23/id/998441/

(The &quot;So-What&quot; brigades will respond accordingly.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
&#8220;Stats Prove Ballot Stuffing&#8221;:<br />
<a href="https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/morris-ballotstuffing-phoenix-detroit/2020/11/23/id/998441/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/morris-ballotstuffing-phoenix-detroit/2020/11/23/id/998441/</a></p>
<p>(The &#8220;So-What&#8221; brigades will respond accordingly.)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/23/the-election-fraud-cases-the-already-thick-plot-thickens-over-sidney-powells-role/#comment-2527085</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And from the No-Fraud Dept.:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-received-thousands-illegal-votes-non-citizens-not-enough-flip

+ this (for head scratching Guinness Record types):
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/
H/T Blazingcatfur blog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And from the No-Fraud Dept.:<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-received-thousands-illegal-votes-non-citizens-not-enough-flip" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-received-thousands-illegal-votes-non-citizens-not-enough-flip</a></p>
<p>+ this (for head scratching Guinness Record types):<br />
<a href="https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/</a><br />
H/T Blazingcatfur blog</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Gosh, Wouldn&#039;t You Know Dept.:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/signature-matching-in-georgia-recount-cant-be-done-says-secretary-of-state_3591068.html

&quot;...to protect voter privacy....&quot;

So refreshing---so reassuring---to know that they&#039;re looking out for the rights of the voter....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Gosh, Wouldn&#8217;t You Know Dept.:<br />
<a href="https://www.theepochtimes.com/signature-matching-in-georgia-recount-cant-be-done-says-secretary-of-state_3591068.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theepochtimes.com/signature-matching-in-georgia-recount-cant-be-done-says-secretary-of-state_3591068.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;to protect voter privacy&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>So refreshing&#8212;so reassuring&#8212;to know that they&#8217;re looking out for the rights of the voter&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fraud in PA---testimony from the front lines:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/regarding_postelection_fraud_in_pennsylvania.html
H/T Instapundit.

Multiplied by...how many times? In how many districts? In how many states?

(Of course, that&#039;s the &quot;sheer beauty&quot; of it, isn&#039;t it....? So massive it&#039;s invisible (or as the Democrats would no doubt prefer to claim, &quot;transparent&quot;).

BTW, is there a statue of limitations for a stolen election? (No matter how magnificently---how cleverly---stolen?...) Curious minds, etc....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud in PA&#8212;testimony from the front lines:<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/regarding_postelection_fraud_in_pennsylvania.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/regarding_postelection_fraud_in_pennsylvania.html</a><br />
H/T Instapundit.</p>
<p>Multiplied by&#8230;how many times? In how many districts? In how many states?</p>
<p>(Of course, that&#8217;s the &#8220;sheer beauty&#8221; of it, isn&#8217;t it&#8230;.? So massive it&#8217;s invisible (or as the Democrats would no doubt prefer to claim, &#8220;transparent&#8221;).</p>
<p>BTW, is there a statue of limitations for a stolen election? (No matter how magnificently&#8212;how cleverly&#8212;stolen?&#8230;) Curious minds, etc&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039; At the same time, Powell must take care in protecting “sources and methods,” which prevents her from readily disclosing much of her evidence. &#039;

A very sensible conjecture, LB100, and I certainly hope you&#039;re right about that.

Regarding Tucker Carlson&#039;s interview, could it be that the reason why he was criticized so severely by so many was not so much the nature of the question but the adversarial tone he used, along with the inability to understand (or want to understand) the delicate nature of Powell&#039;s position?

But then Carlson, for all his strengths and abilities may, as a media creature, no longer really be in control of either his tone or the nuances involved---and required---when interviewing certain people in certain situations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216; At the same time, Powell must take care in protecting “sources and methods,” which prevents her from readily disclosing much of her evidence. &#8216;</p>
<p>A very sensible conjecture, LB100, and I certainly hope you&#8217;re right about that.</p>
<p>Regarding Tucker Carlson&#8217;s interview, could it be that the reason why he was criticized so severely by so many was not so much the nature of the question but the adversarial tone he used, along with the inability to understand (or want to understand) the delicate nature of Powell&#8217;s position?</p>
<p>But then Carlson, for all his strengths and abilities may, as a media creature, no longer really be in control of either his tone or the nuances involved&#8212;and required&#8212;when interviewing certain people in certain situations.</p>
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