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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some important tweets from Robert Barnes&#039;s twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570
https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some important tweets from Robert Barnes&#8217;s twitter feed:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/20/the-war-on-trump-almost-a-third-of-democrats-think-the-election-was-probably-stolen-from-trump/#comment-2526464</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert Barnes is on fire:
H/T https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law

A few examples:
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330234822380425216
https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330209912652226560
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330210206144491520
https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Barnes is on fire:<br />
H/T <a href="https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law</a></p>
<p>A few examples:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330234822380425216" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330234822380425216</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329665547798253570</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330209912652226560" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330209912652226560</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330210206144491520" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1330210206144491520</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SelimSeesYou/status/1329923902282354689</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1330235868116897792</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/20/the-war-on-trump-almost-a-third-of-democrats-think-the-election-was-probably-stolen-from-trump/#comment-2526457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW, Sharyl Atkisson with a list of links that provide important election information. She claims they are stories that are not easy to find. 
I&#039;m not sure if this is necessarily the case nor how up-to-date these continue to be:
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/hard-to-find-2020-election-fraud-stories-and-links/
H/T Sidney Powell twitter feed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, Sharyl Atkisson with a list of links that provide important election information. She claims they are stories that are not easy to find.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if this is necessarily the case nor how up-to-date these continue to be:<br />
<a href="https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/hard-to-find-2020-election-fraud-stories-and-links/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/hard-to-find-2020-election-fraud-stories-and-links/</a><br />
H/T Sidney Powell twitter feed.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/20/the-war-on-trump-almost-a-third-of-democrats-think-the-election-was-probably-stolen-from-trump/#comment-2526446</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar,

You are correct in that regard. Some do it to popularize and mainstream the notion. Also, sadly, some do it to promote ignorance in the populace. But I believe most are too ignorant to even know it is a fallacy. How could anyone paid to be a professional political advisor on television, radio or print let the fallacy stand, let alone speak or write it oneself?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar,</p>
<p>You are correct in that regard. Some do it to popularize and mainstream the notion. Also, sadly, some do it to promote ignorance in the populace. But I believe most are too ignorant to even know it is a fallacy. How could anyone paid to be a professional political advisor on television, radio or print let the fallacy stand, let alone speak or write it oneself?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/20/the-war-on-trump-almost-a-third-of-democrats-think-the-election-was-probably-stolen-from-trump/#comment-2526429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus, the Deep State has mind control powers, inferior to Satan but still.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus, the Deep State has mind control powers, inferior to Satan but still.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dementia Joe will never be my leader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dementia Joe will never be my leader.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/11/20/the-war-on-trump-almost-a-third-of-democrats-think-the-election-was-probably-stolen-from-trump/#comment-2526419</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite what anyone thinks of Donald J. Trump, or the validity or invalidity of the election, the media&#039;s and many elites&#039; (including academics and attorneys who specialize in politics) willingness to refer to Joe Biden as President Elect is maddening. Assuming this article is correct, only 15 states have certified their election results.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

Referring to Joe Biden as President Elect is the very definition of fake news yet we hear and see the term in print and on our screens every day. And we see haughty news anchors and pundits sneering at anyone who says otherwise. Even when Ronald Reagan won 49 states in 1984 he was not &quot;President Elect&quot; until the State&#039;s election boards certified the votes. Well, actually I&#039;m not even sure the term should apply until the Electoral College meets and their votes are officially tallied.

It does not matter if there are legal challenges from the other side, or how valid those charges are, our media should be making it clear to the American public that the media does not elect our President. The opinion of the media based on what they learn from observing States&#039; tallying their ballots is interesting, and a good predictor of how things will turn out, but words have meaning and the media, of any aspect of our system, should take words and their meaning seriously.

Why aren&#039;t Facebook and Twitter flagging every post or tweet that refers to Joe Biden as &quot;President Elect&quot; as false, or unverified? Everytime Biden stands behind a podium that reads, &quot;Office of the President Elect&quot; reporters should ask him why he refers to himself as that, when it is untrue.

Talk about gaslighting.

I do believe Joe Biden will end up being sworn in as President on January 20th, 2021, but it is beyond a joke that a media and public who seem obsessed with &quot;fake news&quot; (especially social media) persist with this blatant lie. Reuters, or the New York Times or the &quot;CNN Decision Desk&quot; do not elect American Presidents. State election boards certify their votes then send their Electors to vote on behalf of the State. We are only 15/50ths (3/10ths or ~ 1/3) of the way through that first step. Nobody has been elected to anything yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite what anyone thinks of Donald J. Trump, or the validity or invalidity of the election, the media&#8217;s and many elites&#8217; (including academics and attorneys who specialize in politics) willingness to refer to Joe Biden as President Elect is maddening. Assuming this article is correct, only 15 states have certified their election results.</p>
<p><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020</a></p>
<p>Referring to Joe Biden as President Elect is the very definition of fake news yet we hear and see the term in print and on our screens every day. And we see haughty news anchors and pundits sneering at anyone who says otherwise. Even when Ronald Reagan won 49 states in 1984 he was not &#8220;President Elect&#8221; until the State&#8217;s election boards certified the votes. Well, actually I&#8217;m not even sure the term should apply until the Electoral College meets and their votes are officially tallied.</p>
<p>It does not matter if there are legal challenges from the other side, or how valid those charges are, our media should be making it clear to the American public that the media does not elect our President. The opinion of the media based on what they learn from observing States&#8217; tallying their ballots is interesting, and a good predictor of how things will turn out, but words have meaning and the media, of any aspect of our system, should take words and their meaning seriously.</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t Facebook and Twitter flagging every post or tweet that refers to Joe Biden as &#8220;President Elect&#8221; as false, or unverified? Everytime Biden stands behind a podium that reads, &#8220;Office of the President Elect&#8221; reporters should ask him why he refers to himself as that, when it is untrue.</p>
<p>Talk about gaslighting.</p>
<p>I do believe Joe Biden will end up being sworn in as President on January 20th, 2021, but it is beyond a joke that a media and public who seem obsessed with &#8220;fake news&#8221; (especially social media) persist with this blatant lie. Reuters, or the New York Times or the &#8220;CNN Decision Desk&#8221; do not elect American Presidents. State election boards certify their votes then send their Electors to vote on behalf of the State. We are only 15/50ths (3/10ths or ~ 1/3) of the way through that first step. Nobody has been elected to anything yet.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 05:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People actually believed in polls... haha]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People actually believed in polls&#8230; haha</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a good reason why so many people believe it is okay that the Democrats cheated to win the election.

WWW prnewswire DOT com/news-releases/survey-shows-cheating-and-academic-dishonesty-prevalent-in-colleges-and-universities-300402014.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;NEW YORK, Feb. 6, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Kessler International issued the results of a revealing new survey that shows that students are cheating frequently using a variety of methods, particularly in the face of the advent of online schools and mobile devices.  Conversely, some teachers were found to be becoming increasing unethical in the face of increased pressure to have their students perform while others have left the profession because of the pressures of Universities to pass students so the income stream continues. In total, Kessler surveyed 300 students from both public and private colleges and universities, including online universities.

Relative to students, the Kessler survey found:

86% of the students surveyed claimed they cheated in some way in school.
54% of the students surveyed indicated that cheating was OK.  Some went so far as to say it is necessary to stay competitive.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

WWW edutopia DOT org/article/why-students-cheat-and-what-do-about-it
&lt;blockquote&gt;First, know that students realize cheating is wrong—they simply see themselves as moral in spite of it.

“They cheat just enough to maintain a self-concept as honest people. They make their behavior an exception to a general rule,” said Dr. David Rettinger, professor at the University of Mary Washington and executive director of the Center for Honor, Leadership, and Service, a campus organization dedicated to integrity.

According to Rettinger and other researchers, students who cheat can still see themselves as principled people by rationalizing cheating for reasons they see as legitimate.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There were a host of search hits, but you get the picture.

NOTE to Neo: for some reason the moderator AI kept eating my comment until I doctored the URLs. That has happened to me before, but with no discernible pattern on either sources or number of links.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a good reason why so many people believe it is okay that the Democrats cheated to win the election.</p>
<p>WWW prnewswire DOT com/news-releases/survey-shows-cheating-and-academic-dishonesty-prevalent-in-colleges-and-universities-300402014.html</p>
<blockquote><p>NEW YORK, Feb. 6, 2017 /PRNewswire/ &#8212; Kessler International issued the results of a revealing new survey that shows that students are cheating frequently using a variety of methods, particularly in the face of the advent of online schools and mobile devices.  Conversely, some teachers were found to be becoming increasing unethical in the face of increased pressure to have their students perform while others have left the profession because of the pressures of Universities to pass students so the income stream continues. In total, Kessler surveyed 300 students from both public and private colleges and universities, including online universities.</p>
<p>Relative to students, the Kessler survey found:</p>
<p>86% of the students surveyed claimed they cheated in some way in school.<br />
54% of the students surveyed indicated that cheating was OK.  Some went so far as to say it is necessary to stay competitive.
</p></blockquote>
<p>WWW edutopia DOT org/article/why-students-cheat-and-what-do-about-it</p>
<blockquote><p>First, know that students realize cheating is wrong—they simply see themselves as moral in spite of it.</p>
<p>“They cheat just enough to maintain a self-concept as honest people. They make their behavior an exception to a general rule,” said Dr. David Rettinger, professor at the University of Mary Washington and executive director of the Center for Honor, Leadership, and Service, a campus organization dedicated to integrity.</p>
<p>According to Rettinger and other researchers, students who cheat can still see themselves as principled people by rationalizing cheating for reasons they see as legitimate.
</p></blockquote>
<p>There were a host of search hits, but you get the picture.</p>
<p>NOTE to Neo: for some reason the moderator AI kept eating my comment until I doctored the URLs. That has happened to me before, but with no discernible pattern on either sources or number of links.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

When I write &quot;they will never stop&quot; I do not mean it is impossible for them to be stopped from outside.  I mean &quot;they will never stop their efforts to take over, they will never get discouraged, they will never give up, they will only seem to rest, they will consider any defeat they encounter to be a mere pause on the way to their goal.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>When I write &#8220;they will never stop&#8221; I do not mean it is impossible for them to be stopped from outside.  I mean &#8220;they will never stop their efforts to take over, they will never get discouraged, they will never give up, they will only seem to rest, they will consider any defeat they encounter to be a mere pause on the way to their goal.&#8221;</p>
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