You appear not to have understood my answer. I will try to be even more clear: the left does not care if this person or that person or people support it, as long as they can stay in power by any means necessary.

The reason they ran Biden rather than Bernie is simple: they thought Bernie was too obviously a leftist and could not win, and they thought Biden could be a stealth left candidate controlled by them but seeming otherwise. So Biden was chosen as more “electable” (perhaps with some help from fraud) and more poised to fool the public about what was intended as an enormous move to the left once he was inaugurated. That’s the plan, anyway.

So yes, they care in the sense that they will run whoever they think has a better chance of winning, as long as that person will perform in office as a person on the left. Once they further consolidate their power through court appointments, executive orders, threats, more voting rule changes, illegal aliens given citizenship, etc. etc. etc., there won’t be as much need to run stealth candidates and it can be done more out in the open.

When you write of the left that “I think if they push too hard they will be rejected,” I think you are showing naivete about the left.

When I say they will be rejected I mean by the greater number of Americans which would make up Republicans, Independent and moderate Democrats. Obviously the left would not reject itself. I do think the greater number of Americans are not in line with the leftist view of the world. The fact that the Democrats lost seats in the House and didn’t outright take the Senate tells us that. The reason Biden won is in part because he is not viewed as far left and because a lot of voters hated Trump. If Bernie had been running Trump would have won, IMO.

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Not at all.

(But I would agree that he/she—generally “tone perfect”—does a pretty good job disguising it…nonetheless, there are, on occasion, some lapses. Considerable lapses. Well, no one’s perfect….)

When you write of the left that “I think if they push too hard they will be rejected,” I think you are showing naivete about the left. What you are describing is true of old-fashioned liberal Democrats, who were more respectful of what citizens wanted. The left could not care less what the citizens want if what the citizens want is to throw them out of office. They left believes the ends justify the means, and the ends consists of permanent power for the left, by hook or by crook. Lying, the race card, violence in the streets, banning speech, are just the beginning of what the left is willing to do. Election fraud is absolutely something they will commit given any opportunity. Lawfare – locking up opponents – absolutely the case. Letting criminals out of prison en masse? Yep. And the left ultimately will go to a lot worse than that if they think it necessary – to setting up a gulag. Don’t think it can’t happen here. It’s nowhere near that at the moment, but they would do it if they saw the necessity. And half the nation would be fine with it, or at least silent about it.

I will agree elements of the left are problematic. I think if they push too hard they will be rejected. I think it’s one reason the Democrats lost House seats and didn’t take the Senate as was predicted. They may still. But, yeah, no doubt I think middle America is not ready for anyone left of Biden. Which is why in the Democratic primary the voters chose Biden. He’s pretty moderate – at least on the surface. Everyone else waiting in the wings is further to the left. Although it can be argued the current Republican party is pushing further right. I’d like some moderates. Let’s see how this plays out.

Thanks for responding. You are of course correct that millions of people voted against Trump because they dislike or even hate him as a person. I don’t happen to share that sentiment, but there is no denying that it was a strong factor in this election. It may have been decisive.

As Neo said, Trump didn’t create the divisions in this country. His election in 2016 was a manifestation of them. He was elected because he promised to take on our corrupt and incompetent ruling class and fight for the interests of middle-class Americans. Not surprisingly, the ruling class did their best to take him out from Day One, with the support of voters like you. It looks like they may finally have succeeded, at least for now.

I wish I could share your blandly sanguine attitude about the future of this country, but I can’t. I don’t think we’re going to muddle through this one. I have voted in every presidential election since 1980. About half the time, the guy I voted for lost. When that happened–and we usually knew that it had happened the night of the election–I shrugged and went to bed in the belief that the guy I hadn’t voted for probably had the best interests of the country at heart and would probably do an OK job. The Republic would survive.

I don’t feel that way this time. The people who are waiting impatiently in the wings to get their hands on the levers of power are not interested in preserving this country as a constitutional republic. In fact, many of them hate and resent this country: its history, its traditions, its prosperity, its decency, and its freedom. They have scores to settle. They have something very different in mind for us: a fundamental transformation. And this time they mean to make it stick.

I would of course be very happy to be wrong about this. I fear that I am not.

Trump is not to blame for much of the hatred that has raged against him. He’s no uniter, but the divisions were already fully there before he was ever elected, and the Democrats wanted to impeach him the moment he was elected, and called him illegitimate and themselves the “Resistance.”

What’s more, the rage against Bush was nearly as bad – the Democrats just weren’t leftist enough yet to employ the same methods.

It has never before been the case that the educational system and other cultural institutions of this country have hated America and worked to make young people hate it. That is very new, so comparisons to previous eras don’t reassure.

As for Biden not being Trump, would that he were. Biden is a man who was a mendacious mediocrity in his prime, and he’s long past his prime. Without being senile, he’s most definitely in some sort of decline. But even when he was young, he was a divisive figure despite his “hail fellow well met” exterior. I felt that way about him even when he was a Democrat – did not trust him one bit. During the Bork hearings Biden’s propensity for nastiness and lies was in evidence.

In some of Biden’s rhetoric during the 2020 campaign he has tried to talk about unity and an end to divisiveness and yet has been bitter and nasty. He’s even sometimes been combative and nasty to ordinary people asking questions at his appearances (“dog-faced pony soldier,” etc.). Not to mention the corruption that I believe has been part of his life and the lives of those near and dear to him for quite some time. He seems to be veering way to the left; his stated policy plans are deeply leftist.