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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521833</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 01:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marisa on October 26, 2020 at 1:38 am said:
Not entirely OT: another change story
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n this “stunning and brave” essay I will tell you why I made this decision.

https://candacemercer.medium.com/why-i-voted-trump-a-coming-out-story-822da82d757d
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Just to clarify: 
Marisa is quoting the opening lines of Candace Mercer&#039;s video.
It&#039;s the same video Nancy B linked on the Biden voters thread, from a copy on another site.
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Nancy+B. on October 26, 2020 at 7:50 am said:
Sarah Hoyt posted a link to this “Walkaway” article on Instapundit:

https://archive.vn/cDYRy

She credits Jonathan Haidt with giving her a glimpse into the minds of conservatives. She also mentions Jordan P.
* * *
If you haven&#039;t seen it yet, there are lot&#039;s of links and discussions going around the internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marisa on October 26, 2020 at 1:38 am said:<br />
Not entirely OT: another change story<br />
&#8230;<br />
n this “stunning and brave” essay I will tell you why I made this decision.</p>
<p><a href="https://candacemercer.medium.com/why-i-voted-trump-a-coming-out-story-822da82d757d" rel="nofollow ugc">https://candacemercer.medium.com/why-i-voted-trump-a-coming-out-story-822da82d757d</a><br />
* * *<br />
Just to clarify:<br />
Marisa is quoting the opening lines of Candace Mercer&#8217;s video.<br />
It&#8217;s the same video Nancy B linked on the Biden voters thread, from a copy on another site.<br />
* * *<br />
Nancy+B. on October 26, 2020 at 7:50 am said:<br />
Sarah Hoyt posted a link to this “Walkaway” article on Instapundit:</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.vn/cDYRy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.vn/cDYRy</a></p>
<p>She credits Jonathan Haidt with giving her a glimpse into the minds of conservatives. She also mentions Jordan P.<br />
* * *<br />
If you haven&#8217;t seen it yet, there are lot&#8217;s of links and discussions going around the internet.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521730</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L

Very interesting.  Cultures matter after all.  Interesting that the progressives and leftists are all about unlearning what has worked to tamp down destructive tribalistic and cultic pathologies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L</p>
<p>Very interesting.  Cultures matter after all.  Interesting that the progressives and leftists are all about unlearning what has worked to tamp down destructive tribalistic and cultic pathologies.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521728</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom+Grey on October 26, 2020 at 3:05 pm
&quot;American style freedom is based on individual rights, each person’s individual moral actions, every person’s Free Will choices.
Not groups. Not identity groups. Not tribes.&quot;

This is apparently derived from the role of the Church in early/mid European history to reduce or restrict consanguineous marriage.  See for example:
  http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/whatever-happened-to-european-tribes/       or
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/book-review-the-weirdest-people-in-the-world-audacious-surprising/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=third]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom+Grey on October 26, 2020 at 3:05 pm<br />
&#8220;American style freedom is based on individual rights, each person’s individual moral actions, every person’s Free Will choices.<br />
Not groups. Not identity groups. Not tribes.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is apparently derived from the role of the Church in early/mid European history to reduce or restrict consanguineous marriage.  See for example:<br />
  <a href="http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/whatever-happened-to-european-tribes/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/whatever-happened-to-european-tribes/</a>       or<br />
<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/book-review-the-weirdest-people-in-the-world-audacious-surprising/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=third" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/book-review-the-weirdest-people-in-the-world-audacious-surprising/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&#038;utm_medium=article&#038;utm_campaign=river&#038;utm_content=top-bar-latest&#038;utm_term=third</a></p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymar is as Ymar will be, I am, YHsVH.

The reason why your toxic emotions have died down is due to the power of a miracle, and of the aura of love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymar is as Ymar will be, I am, YHsVH.</p>
<p>The reason why your toxic emotions have died down is due to the power of a miracle, and of the aura of love.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521528</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yammer is what Yammer does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yammer is what Yammer does.</p>
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		By: Tom+Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521527</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump wins a fair vote - fraud is the only way Biden wins.

I think.

But because I expect quite a bit of attempted fraud by Dems, unless there is massive Trump victories it will be close.  And the lawyers will be talking.

Silly what-if verbal fights about Iraq remind me that Iraqis did, in fact, have a free and fair election.  With millions showing up and getting their fingers painted so that few could commit fraud or vote again.  [They seemed very very glad to be rid of Saddam and his two murderous sons (and I was too).  Without yet knowing the adjustment pains &#038; deaths to come - which were far far worse than most pro-war folk (like I was) expected.]

&quot;Fair&quot; elections are not that hard, but are not &quot;fair&quot; to those who won&#039;t follow the rules, and there have to be some rules.

It also reminded me about how the Sunnis and Shiite have often had tribal hatred, despite both being Arab Muslim - with Sunni Kurds not being Arab.  So &quot;democratic&quot; Iraq was inevitably going to be messy.  Bryan Lovely made a great and important comment:
&lt;i&gt;The post-war at least proved to ourselves that no, lots of people in the world don’t pine for American-style freedom and democracy no matter how much of the heavy lifting we do for them.&lt;/i&gt;

American style freedom is based on individual rights, each person&#039;s individual moral actions, every person&#039;s Free Will choices.  
Not groups.  Not identity groups.  Not tribes.

The terrible change the Dems are pushing in America is to end the American melting pot assimilation, so that we can all be Americans, with our disagreements. Instead Dems want most of us to be in one victim group or another.

The anti-Trump hatred of today is actually a cover for a tribal anti-Rep hatred that Dems are supporting - see how many &quot;Feminist supporting&quot; Democrats support AC Barrett in joining the US SC.  The Dem tribe is dominant over the &quot;Fem&quot; tribe.  See how any Black Reps are denigrated and insulted as not really Black.  The Dem tribe over the Black tribe.
See how any gay Reps are denigrated, Dem tribe over gay tribe.

And it&#039;s far easier to get agreement between lots of people on who or what to hate, rather than who to support, or which policy is best, in detail.

Trump haters should be asked: &quot;aren&#039;t you embarrassed by this to support Biden?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump wins a fair vote &#8211; fraud is the only way Biden wins.</p>
<p>I think.</p>
<p>But because I expect quite a bit of attempted fraud by Dems, unless there is massive Trump victories it will be close.  And the lawyers will be talking.</p>
<p>Silly what-if verbal fights about Iraq remind me that Iraqis did, in fact, have a free and fair election.  With millions showing up and getting their fingers painted so that few could commit fraud or vote again.  [They seemed very very glad to be rid of Saddam and his two murderous sons (and I was too).  Without yet knowing the adjustment pains &amp; deaths to come &#8211; which were far far worse than most pro-war folk (like I was) expected.]</p>
<p>&#8220;Fair&#8221; elections are not that hard, but are not &#8220;fair&#8221; to those who won&#8217;t follow the rules, and there have to be some rules.</p>
<p>It also reminded me about how the Sunnis and Shiite have often had tribal hatred, despite both being Arab Muslim &#8211; with Sunni Kurds not being Arab.  So &#8220;democratic&#8221; Iraq was inevitably going to be messy.  Bryan Lovely made a great and important comment:<br />
<i>The post-war at least proved to ourselves that no, lots of people in the world don’t pine for American-style freedom and democracy no matter how much of the heavy lifting we do for them.</i></p>
<p>American style freedom is based on individual rights, each person&#8217;s individual moral actions, every person&#8217;s Free Will choices.<br />
Not groups.  Not identity groups.  Not tribes.</p>
<p>The terrible change the Dems are pushing in America is to end the American melting pot assimilation, so that we can all be Americans, with our disagreements. Instead Dems want most of us to be in one victim group or another.</p>
<p>The anti-Trump hatred of today is actually a cover for a tribal anti-Rep hatred that Dems are supporting &#8211; see how many &#8220;Feminist supporting&#8221; Democrats support AC Barrett in joining the US SC.  The Dem tribe is dominant over the &#8220;Fem&#8221; tribe.  See how any Black Reps are denigrated and insulted as not really Black.  The Dem tribe over the Black tribe.<br />
See how any gay Reps are denigrated, Dem tribe over gay tribe.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s far easier to get agreement between lots of people on who or what to hate, rather than who to support, or which policy is best, in detail.</p>
<p>Trump haters should be asked: &#8220;aren&#8217;t you embarrassed by this to support Biden?&#8221;</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521526</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ask me what else a course in miracles can do to your life fate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask me what else a course in miracles can do to your life fate.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521524</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did you know you are writing more now per page than peak ymar?

My aura can and has changed yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know you are writing more now per page than peak ymar?</p>
<p>My aura can and has changed yours.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want to get the vastness of Yammer&#039;s thoughts visit the Bookworm Room comment section.  

Bookworm is a good egg but her comments section is not moderated so you will get the unfiltered yammering.  Bunge would like it there?

Bookworm&#039;s Blog has Bookworm rules.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to get the vastness of Yammer&#8217;s thoughts visit the Bookworm Room comment section.  </p>
<p>Bookworm is a good egg but her comments section is not moderated so you will get the unfiltered yammering.  Bunge would like it there?</p>
<p>Bookworm&#8217;s Blog has Bookworm rules.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/24/in-senectus-veritas/#comment-2521508</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cannot figure out why om is rejecting bunge for behavior om routinely engages in.

Ymar is written as something else in om world.

Just wait for it

Pillowc wont succeed as president. But if election misfires to jan 20th, who acts as president if both admins are not elected?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot figure out why om is rejecting bunge for behavior om routinely engages in.</p>
<p>Ymar is written as something else in om world.</p>
<p>Just wait for it</p>
<p>Pillowc wont succeed as president. But if election misfires to jan 20th, who acts as president if both admins are not elected?</p>
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