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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.&quot;


She&#039;s 78 years old.  She&#039;s been at &quot;60 Minutes&quot; for 29 years.  She may not be in cognitive decline like a certain candidate for President but I&#039;ll bet it&#039;s been at least a decade since Stahl was putting in the bare minimum 50-60 hours a week you&#039;d need to do her job adequately.  Stahl hasn&#039;t functioned as a journalist for a long time now.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.&#8221;</p>
<p>She&#8217;s 78 years old.  She&#8217;s been at &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; for 29 years.  She may not be in cognitive decline like a certain candidate for President but I&#8217;ll bet it&#8217;s been at least a decade since Stahl was putting in the bare minimum 50-60 hours a week you&#8217;d need to do her job adequately.  Stahl hasn&#8217;t functioned as a journalist for a long time now.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar:

If you&#039;re referring to the Gibson interviews of Sarah Palin in 2008 - you are incorrect about what was said on this blog about them (except by trolls in the comments, who were not conservatives or even Republicans).  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2008/09/12/thoughts-on-the-gibson-palin-interview-the-not-so-grand-inquisitor/&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the post and the comments&lt;/a&gt; about that interview.

No one here bought into the narrative, except the trolls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re referring to the Gibson interviews of Sarah Palin in 2008 &#8211; you are incorrect about what was said on this blog about them (except by trolls in the comments, who were not conservatives or even Republicans).  <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2008/09/12/thoughts-on-the-gibson-palin-interview-the-not-so-grand-inquisitor/">Here&#8217;s the post and the comments</a> about that interview.</p>
<p>No one here bought into the narrative, except the trolls.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He is doing a Jordan Peterson, because they wanted to avoid a Sarah Palin, where conservatives saw the interview and bought immediately into the narrative. Then it would be 3x harder to reverse. It happened in real time in the comments here.

&quot;Did you see her two interviews? Horrible. No way&quot;.

This was back when conservatives pretended the main sewer media was fair and objective news. After they refused to believe in it, but still believed in it 85% of the time.

Only until now do they actually begin refusing to believe in fake news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is doing a Jordan Peterson, because they wanted to avoid a Sarah Palin, where conservatives saw the interview and bought immediately into the narrative. Then it would be 3x harder to reverse. It happened in real time in the comments here.</p>
<p>&#8220;Did you see her two interviews? Horrible. No way&#8221;.</p>
<p>This was back when conservatives pretended the main sewer media was fair and objective news. After they refused to believe in it, but still believed in it 85% of the time.</p>
<p>Only until now do they actually begin refusing to believe in fake news.</p>
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		By: Art+Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521059</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art+Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;might even have become friends. &lt;/i&gt;

Cordial yes.  Each respecting what the other brings to the table, yes.  Personal friends? Don&#039;t think so.  

Although it&#039;s interesting how that works.  Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew had many things in common.  And they didn&#039;t care for each other&#039;s company at all.  Don&#039;t think their wives were more than pro-forma friendly, either.  I think the Nixon daughters made a point of attempting to persuade the Agnew daughters to attend their father&#039;s funeral but do not know if the Agnew daughters actually made the trip.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>might even have become friends. </i></p>
<p>Cordial yes.  Each respecting what the other brings to the table, yes.  Personal friends? Don&#8217;t think so.  </p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s interesting how that works.  Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew had many things in common.  And they didn&#8217;t care for each other&#8217;s company at all.  Don&#8217;t think their wives were more than pro-forma friendly, either.  I think the Nixon daughters made a point of attempting to persuade the Agnew daughters to attend their father&#8217;s funeral but do not know if the Agnew daughters actually made the trip.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.&quot; - WWW

You don&#039;t have to &quot;sell out&quot; if you are supporting the side you believe in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.&#8221; &#8211; WWW</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;sell out&#8221; if you are supporting the side you believe in.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is my 60 Minutes #WalkAway story.
I call it that because we used to be big fans of the show.
In the late 70s or early 80s (don&#039;t remember exactly when), they did a report on a case in Utah involving some dispute surrounding an orchard, painting a persuasively damaging picture of the owners, as they were, and are, wont to do. 
AesopSpouse -- in private law practice at the time -- actually knew the facts of the case.
The show was a complete hatchet job.
We never watched again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my 60 Minutes #WalkAway story.<br />
I call it that because we used to be big fans of the show.<br />
In the late 70s or early 80s (don&#8217;t remember exactly when), they did a report on a case in Utah involving some dispute surrounding an orchard, painting a persuasively damaging picture of the owners, as they were, and are, wont to do.<br />
AesopSpouse &#8212; in private law practice at the time &#8212; actually knew the facts of the case.<br />
The show was a complete hatchet job.<br />
We never watched again.</p>
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		By: Wild, wild west		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wild, wild west]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.  I doubt any of them do.  No sense of shame or honor.  The Fourth Estate indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Leslie Stahl even remembers when she sold out.  I doubt any of them do.  No sense of shame or honor.  The Fourth Estate indeed.</p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

60 Minutes still has credibility?

For that matter, does anybody below the age of 70 watch it anymore? I remember my parents getting bored and/or disgusted with it in about 1983.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>60 Minutes still has credibility?</p>
<p>For that matter, does anybody below the age of 70 watch it anymore? I remember my parents getting bored and/or disgusted with it in about 1983.</p>
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		By: Fractal Rabbit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/22/trump-turns-the-tables-on-60-minutes/#comment-2521007</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 00:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another thing that occurs to me is that I get the impression that Trump and Pence are really on the same page and might even have become friends. That can’t be said for all Presidents and VPs. And they may not have started out completely friend or even friendly beyond their partnership.

Neither here nor there, just an observation after watching Trump’s preferred edit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that occurs to me is that I get the impression that Trump and Pence are really on the same page and might even have become friends. That can’t be said for all Presidents and VPs. And they may not have started out completely friend or even friendly beyond their partnership.</p>
<p>Neither here nor there, just an observation after watching Trump’s preferred edit.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 00:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Werner Erhard, the est/Landmark creator I keep talking about, was smeared so badly on &quot;60 Minutes&quot; he had to sell everything, turn his companies over to family and colleagues and leave the US.

I grant that Erhard is a sketchy character and I weary of the airbrushed image he and his followers present like he was some combination of Socrates, Gandhi and Elon Musk, but his &quot;60 Minutes&quot; interview was largely a hatchet job that Erhard should have seen coming.
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&lt;i&gt; [Erhard&#039;s] adversity came to a head in 1991 when CBS’s “60 Minutes” aired an eighteen-minute segment on Werner Erhard, est, and the Forum, incorporating conversations with Erhard, and his daughter Celeste, along with disclosure of the tax allegations.

It wasn’t hard to paint Erhard as a sleazeball. He was confident, tan, rich, irreverent, a salesman by trade, he owned his own airplane, drove a black Mercedes with a vanity plate that said “SO WUT?”,[13] and he lived on a yacht. Despite the strong ego Erhard projected, he ironically became a victim of his own success—though according to his own philosophy, no one did him in but himself.

A more simple view of Erhard’s growing problems point to several people responsible for accusations that were, as it turns out, false. &lt;b&gt;Well after the “60 Minutes” segment aired, his daughter Celeste confessed that she’d been offered a half-million dollar share in a pending book contract in exchange for the allegations, and the IRS, too, later retracted their claim, and paid Erhard $200,000 in a lawsuit he initiated. The “60 Minutes” segment was filled with so many factual discrepancies that the transcript was made unavailable with this disclaimer: “This segment has been deleted at the request of CBS News for legal or copyright reasons.”&lt;/b&gt;

--&quot;Est, Werner Erhard and The Corporatization of Self-Help&quot;
https://believermag.com/est-werner-erhard-and-the-corporatization-of-self-help/&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werner Erhard, the est/Landmark creator I keep talking about, was smeared so badly on &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; he had to sell everything, turn his companies over to family and colleagues and leave the US.</p>
<p>I grant that Erhard is a sketchy character and I weary of the airbrushed image he and his followers present like he was some combination of Socrates, Gandhi and Elon Musk, but his &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; interview was largely a hatchet job that Erhard should have seen coming.<br />
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<p><i> [Erhard&#8217;s] adversity came to a head in 1991 when CBS’s “60 Minutes” aired an eighteen-minute segment on Werner Erhard, est, and the Forum, incorporating conversations with Erhard, and his daughter Celeste, along with disclosure of the tax allegations.</p>
<p>It wasn’t hard to paint Erhard as a sleazeball. He was confident, tan, rich, irreverent, a salesman by trade, he owned his own airplane, drove a black Mercedes with a vanity plate that said “SO WUT?”,[13] and he lived on a yacht. Despite the strong ego Erhard projected, he ironically became a victim of his own success—though according to his own philosophy, no one did him in but himself.</p>
<p>A more simple view of Erhard’s growing problems point to several people responsible for accusations that were, as it turns out, false. <b>Well after the “60 Minutes” segment aired, his daughter Celeste confessed that she’d been offered a half-million dollar share in a pending book contract in exchange for the allegations, and the IRS, too, later retracted their claim, and paid Erhard $200,000 in a lawsuit he initiated. The “60 Minutes” segment was filled with so many factual discrepancies that the transcript was made unavailable with this disclaimer: “This segment has been deleted at the request of CBS News for legal or copyright reasons.”</b></p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;Est, Werner Erhard and The Corporatization of Self-Help&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://believermag.com/est-werner-erhard-and-the-corporatization-of-self-help/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://believermag.com/est-werner-erhard-and-the-corporatization-of-self-help/</a></i></p>
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