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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2521180</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;people on the left are still *really* invested in the view that this is a continuing calamity that is all Trump’s fault.&quot; - Mac

That investment is like the investment of the grievance industry apparatchiks in perpetuating the grievances that pay their salaries.
What would they do if racism, sexism, etc actually went away?

Babylon Bee solves their problem.
https://babylonbee.com/news/more-liberals-switching-their-vote-to-trump-after-realizing-hes-their-only-reason-for-living]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;people on the left are still *really* invested in the view that this is a continuing calamity that is all Trump’s fault.&#8221; &#8211; Mac</p>
<p>That investment is like the investment of the grievance industry apparatchiks in perpetuating the grievances that pay their salaries.<br />
What would they do if racism, sexism, etc actually went away?</p>
<p>Babylon Bee solves their problem.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/more-liberals-switching-their-vote-to-trump-after-realizing-hes-their-only-reason-for-living" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/more-liberals-switching-their-vote-to-trump-after-realizing-hes-their-only-reason-for-living</a></p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m way too impatient to delve into the statistics, but I can certainly tell you that people on the left are still *really* invested in the view that this is a continuing calamity that is all Trump&#039;s fault.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m way too impatient to delve into the statistics, but I can certainly tell you that people on the left are still *really* invested in the view that this is a continuing calamity that is all Trump&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		By: James S		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520899</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On Neo&#039;s last point, about long-term flu effects that are sometimes reported, I knew a boat captain who said he felt that it took him 7 or 8 years to fully get over the effects of the Hong Kong flu of 1957.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Neo&#8217;s last point, about long-term flu effects that are sometimes reported, I knew a boat captain who said he felt that it took him 7 or 8 years to fully get over the effects of the Hong Kong flu of 1957.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520886</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To elaborate, I am not saying that because I am parroting Republican or Demoncrat talking points, let alone what else humans and zombies talk about.

Trump was sick because his energy aura and stellar configuration was extremely weak, given his average. It was quite obvious to those who could sense it looking at him, if their P rating was high enough.

Whether it was C19 or a contaminated test kit that poisoned him... well that&#039;s a different topic.

For those that don&#039;t know me here or my history of comments, they may have misinterpreted that as contradiction or making fun of conspiracy theorists. Oh no. You are looking at the king here on those topics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To elaborate, I am not saying that because I am parroting Republican or Demoncrat talking points, let alone what else humans and zombies talk about.</p>
<p>Trump was sick because his energy aura and stellar configuration was extremely weak, given his average. It was quite obvious to those who could sense it looking at him, if their P rating was high enough.</p>
<p>Whether it was C19 or a contaminated test kit that poisoned him&#8230; well that&#8217;s a different topic.</p>
<p>For those that don&#8217;t know me here or my history of comments, they may have misinterpreted that as contradiction or making fun of conspiracy theorists. Oh no. You are looking at the king here on those topics.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520878</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Pitelli:

From what I&#039;ve seen, the death numbers you&#039;re talking about in European countries have increased from &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; low figures over the summer, so the increase is relative to that and the death numbers in this &quot;second wave&quot; are not high. I have not seen a country in Europe that has anywhere near the death numbers they had in the early days of the pandemic.  

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/21/coronavirus-second-wave-how-are-rising-infections-in-europe-affecting-covid-19-deaths&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;See this&lt;/a&gt;.

For example France had over 1,000 COVID deaths per day back in April. Now there&#039;s been a rise compared to the summer, but the death toll per day is in the 80s, despite higher case rates.  Clearly, the disease is not causing anywhere near the devastation it was causing in the spring.  

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Here you can find&lt;/a&gt; graphs for each country that go back all the way to the spring, and I believe you&#039;ll see similar changes in the countries exhibiting what is called a &quot;second wave.&quot;  Just to take one example, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here&#039;s a graph&lt;/a&gt; for the UK.  Back in late March, April, and May, the daily death numbers there ranged from around 450 to over 1,000, with many in the 700-800 range.  Now it&#039;s been mostly between 60 and about 150 a day.  Big difference.  And this is despite the fact that diagnosed cases have increased enormously over the number of diagnosed cases in the spring.

Now of course this could change.  But so far that&#039;s the way it&#039;s been going.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Pitelli:</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, the death numbers you&#8217;re talking about in European countries have increased from <i>very</i> low figures over the summer, so the increase is relative to that and the death numbers in this &#8220;second wave&#8221; are not high. I have not seen a country in Europe that has anywhere near the death numbers they had in the early days of the pandemic.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/21/coronavirus-second-wave-how-are-rising-infections-in-europe-affecting-covid-19-deaths" rel="nofollow ugc">See this</a>.</p>
<p>For example France had over 1,000 COVID deaths per day back in April. Now there&#8217;s been a rise compared to the summer, but the death toll per day is in the 80s, despite higher case rates.  Clearly, the disease is not causing anywhere near the devastation it was causing in the spring.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/" rel="nofollow ugc">Here you can find</a> graphs for each country that go back all the way to the spring, and I believe you&#8217;ll see similar changes in the countries exhibiting what is called a &#8220;second wave.&#8221;  Just to take one example, <a href="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/" rel="nofollow ugc">here&#8217;s a graph</a> for the UK.  Back in late March, April, and May, the daily death numbers there ranged from around 450 to over 1,000, with many in the 700-800 range.  Now it&#8217;s been mostly between 60 and about 150 a day.  Big difference.  And this is despite the fact that diagnosed cases have increased enormously over the number of diagnosed cases in the spring.</p>
<p>Now of course this could change.  But so far that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s been going.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520877</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Micha Elyi:

There are many studies that say that lockdowns have not worked.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://mises.org/wire/evidence-keeps-piling-lockdowns-dont-work&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;This article&lt;/a&gt; reviews some of the data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micha Elyi:</p>
<p>There are many studies that say that lockdowns have not worked.  <a href="https://mises.org/wire/evidence-keeps-piling-lockdowns-dont-work" rel="nofollow ugc">This article</a> reviews some of the data.</p>
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		By: Pam		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520876</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[having a lot of problems getting here today:  first try &quot;site can&#039;t be reached&quot;

Hhmmmm, coincidence?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having a lot of problems getting here today:  first try &#8220;site can&#8217;t be reached&#8221;</p>
<p>Hhmmmm, coincidence?</p>
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		By: David Pittelli		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520872</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Pittelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While case rates are upwardly biased and not particularly meaningful, the death rate as a percentage of positive cases or of hospitalized cases is also not meaningful as a measure of public health policies or of the damage done by the disease.  (This death rate is an imperfect measure of how well doctors and hospitals are treating people.) The key indicator for most purposes is the death rate relative to population, and this has been holding pretty steady in the US since July.  That said, this death rate is increasing in several other advanced countries which had lower death rates than the US over the summer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While case rates are upwardly biased and not particularly meaningful, the death rate as a percentage of positive cases or of hospitalized cases is also not meaningful as a measure of public health policies or of the damage done by the disease.  (This death rate is an imperfect measure of how well doctors and hospitals are treating people.) The key indicator for most purposes is the death rate relative to population, and this has been holding pretty steady in the US since July.  That said, this death rate is increasing in several other advanced countries which had lower death rates than the US over the summer.</p>
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		By: Lorenz Gude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorenz Gude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I went by the Apple store here in Perth Western Australia on my way to a doctor&#039;s appointment. The sidewalk was full of masked Apple employees, and masked security people in yellow vests. I&#039;d just had cataract surgery last week and wanted a peek at the 4 and 5K iMac monitors, so I asked what was happening and was told that the mask wearing in strict social distancing were part of a brand wide Apple program. My temperature was taken after being asked permission then I was issued a mandatory mask.  I had a lot of contradictory feelings but what stood out was &quot;No Apple, and all the rest of you virtue signalling idiots, I am not going to vote for Joe Biden.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went by the Apple store here in Perth Western Australia on my way to a doctor&#8217;s appointment. The sidewalk was full of masked Apple employees, and masked security people in yellow vests. I&#8217;d just had cataract surgery last week and wanted a peek at the 4 and 5K iMac monitors, so I asked what was happening and was told that the mask wearing in strict social distancing were part of a brand wide Apple program. My temperature was taken after being asked permission then I was issued a mandatory mask.  I had a lot of contradictory feelings but what stood out was &#8220;No Apple, and all the rest of you virtue signalling idiots, I am not going to vote for Joe Biden.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Micha Elyi		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/covid-death-rates-continue-to-fall/#comment-2520867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Micha Elyi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 06:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;COVID death rates continue to fall.&quot;

IOW, the so-called lockdowns are producing beneficial results. I realize that there are many who don&#039;t want to admit that, but there it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;COVID death rates continue to fall.&#8221;</p>
<p>IOW, the so-called lockdowns are producing beneficial results. I realize that there are many who don&#8217;t want to admit that, but there it is.</p>
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