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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[om:

&lt;i&gt;And the left/media ignores recent statements by Richard Spencer, a self identifying white supremacist, who now supports BLM and the Democrats.&lt;/i&gt;

The Law of Implied Reciprocal Endorsement only applies to conservatives.

(Similar to the Law of Political Synecdoche: any crazy act or statement by a conservative/white/straight/male is attributable to the whole class and must be apologized for by every member; any crazy act or statement by a liberal/poc/gay/female is a one-off and must be ignored.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om:</p>
<p><i>And the left/media ignores recent statements by Richard Spencer, a self identifying white supremacist, who now supports BLM and the Democrats.</i></p>
<p>The Law of Implied Reciprocal Endorsement only applies to conservatives.</p>
<p>(Similar to the Law of Political Synecdoche: any crazy act or statement by a conservative/white/straight/male is attributable to the whole class and must be apologized for by every member; any crazy act or statement by a liberal/poc/gay/female is a one-off and must be ignored.)</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymar -- once again you&#039;ve gotten it wrong.  Everyone knows the world ends in the year 6000 of the Hebrew calendar, so there are 219 years to go!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymar &#8212; once again you&#8217;ve gotten it wrong.  Everyone knows the world ends in the year 6000 of the Hebrew calendar, so there are 219 years to go!</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I keep saying, in various blogs, I don&#039;t know if the media is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or if it&#039;s the other way round, but it&#039;s obvious that they are in cahoots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I keep saying, in various blogs, I don&#8217;t know if the media is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or if it&#8217;s the other way round, but it&#8217;s obvious that they are in cahoots.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/compare-and-contrast-4/#comment-2520929</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo:

And the left/media ignores recent statements by Richard Spencer, a self identifying white supremacist, who now supports BLM and the Democrats.  He has stated that President Trump has not furthered white supremacist goals but the racist goals of BLM are consistent with his (Richard Spencer&#039;s) ends.  Richard Spencer was one of the white supremacists involved at Charlottesville IIRC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo:</p>
<p>And the left/media ignores recent statements by Richard Spencer, a self identifying white supremacist, who now supports BLM and the Democrats.  He has stated that President Trump has not furthered white supremacist goals but the racist goals of BLM are consistent with his (Richard Spencer&#8217;s) ends.  Richard Spencer was one of the white supremacists involved at Charlottesville IIRC.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MBunge:

Their belief that Trump is a white supremacist racist is built on several things, all of them coming from the MSM and their circle of acquaintances, who mostly think the same.

The first is his immigration policy.  The second is the lie about what Trump said re Charlottesville.  The third involve the usual propaganda about all Republicans being racists, something they&#039;ve believed for decades.  The fourth involves what they see as support from actual white supremacist groups or groups labeled as such by the left and the media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBunge:</p>
<p>Their belief that Trump is a white supremacist racist is built on several things, all of them coming from the MSM and their circle of acquaintances, who mostly think the same.</p>
<p>The first is his immigration policy.  The second is the lie about what Trump said re Charlottesville.  The third involve the usual propaganda about all Republicans being racists, something they&#8217;ve believed for decades.  The fourth involves what they see as support from actual white supremacist groups or groups labeled as such by the left and the media.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/compare-and-contrast-4/#comment-2520910</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I think it’s very threatening to people to have their deepest beliefs challenged. --neo&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. 

Again, I keep finding myself surprised that many here -- not neo -- are surprised by or disappointed in people. 

Human beings are not pure rational actors. They are quite complex and emotional. Most are insecure in multiple areas. Some are deeply wounded. They are not having tea with Rene Descartes and Edmund Burke in order to arrive at their decisions.

Maybe I was scarred by earlier experiences, but I understand people as potentially dangerous animals, who can turn on you without notice. Good luck reasoning with them.

We live on the Planet of the Apes. I&#039;m amazed we do as well as we have to maintain civilized standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think it’s very threatening to people to have their deepest beliefs challenged. &#8211;neo</i></p>
<p>Indeed. </p>
<p>Again, I keep finding myself surprised that many here &#8212; not neo &#8212; are surprised by or disappointed in people. </p>
<p>Human beings are not pure rational actors. They are quite complex and emotional. Most are insecure in multiple areas. Some are deeply wounded. They are not having tea with Rene Descartes and Edmund Burke in order to arrive at their decisions.</p>
<p>Maybe I was scarred by earlier experiences, but I understand people as potentially dangerous animals, who can turn on you without notice. Good luck reasoning with them.</p>
<p>We live on the Planet of the Apes. I&#8217;m amazed we do as well as we have to maintain civilized standards.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/compare-and-contrast-4/#comment-2520909</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Bunge:

You are a twisted dude.  

Just try to keep your comments/posts intelligent.  

BTW Neo&#039;s standards for comments aren&#039;t your standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Bunge:</p>
<p>You are a twisted dude.  </p>
<p>Just try to keep your comments/posts intelligent.  </p>
<p>BTW Neo&#8217;s standards for comments aren&#8217;t your standards.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously, om, I&#039;m never going to have sex with you.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, om, I&#8217;m never going to have sex with you.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/compare-and-contrast-4/#comment-2520901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Bunge:

Ah yes George W Bush was loved for his speaking skills.  If that was the case but it was not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Bunge:</p>
<p>Ah yes George W Bush was loved for his speaking skills.  If that was the case but it was not.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/21/compare-and-contrast-4/#comment-2520896</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“For most of my friends, their belief about Trump goes like this: “He is a racist white supremacist who hates black people.” “


But what is the deeply held belief about race that Trump has violated?  If we were talking about Latinos and people with a profound investment in the open borders story of immigration, Trump has at least done actual things contrary to that story.

Of course, that open borders story is not and has not been the complete truth of America’s immigration history, but that’s beside the point.  The “Trump hates Latinos” argument could at least be over real things Trump has actually done.

By the way, does anyone else find it immensely revealing how Latinos have been shoved to the back of the bus when it comes to anti-Trumpists?

But what is the “Trump is a white supremacist” stuff based on?  Things Trump hasn’t done and things Trump hasn’t said.  Heck, calling Republicans racist has been standard operating procedure for Democrats for decades, Neo, without them behaving the way you’ve described with friends and associates.  What changed?

I say from personal experience, people don’t always understand themselves.  They don’t understand why they do the things they do.  People may say it’s about Trump being a white supremacist, but it’s not.

What is it about?  Well, if Trump did everything the same but used a greater than eighth grade vocabulary, if he sounded more like Mitt Romney or George W. Bush, your friends would still hate him, Neo, but not with the irrational intensity that renders them incapable of adult conversation.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“For most of my friends, their belief about Trump goes like this: “He is a racist white supremacist who hates black people.” “</p>
<p>But what is the deeply held belief about race that Trump has violated?  If we were talking about Latinos and people with a profound investment in the open borders story of immigration, Trump has at least done actual things contrary to that story.</p>
<p>Of course, that open borders story is not and has not been the complete truth of America’s immigration history, but that’s beside the point.  The “Trump hates Latinos” argument could at least be over real things Trump has actually done.</p>
<p>By the way, does anyone else find it immensely revealing how Latinos have been shoved to the back of the bus when it comes to anti-Trumpists?</p>
<p>But what is the “Trump is a white supremacist” stuff based on?  Things Trump hasn’t done and things Trump hasn’t said.  Heck, calling Republicans racist has been standard operating procedure for Democrats for decades, Neo, without them behaving the way you’ve described with friends and associates.  What changed?</p>
<p>I say from personal experience, people don’t always understand themselves.  They don’t understand why they do the things they do.  People may say it’s about Trump being a white supremacist, but it’s not.</p>
<p>What is it about?  Well, if Trump did everything the same but used a greater than eighth grade vocabulary, if he sounded more like Mitt Romney or George W. Bush, your friends would still hate him, Neo, but not with the irrational intensity that renders them incapable of adult conversation.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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