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		By: Faith2014		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bookworm brought up something scary in a post the other day about the polls.  She said they&#039;re measuring the wrong thing.  It isn&#039;t support for Biden that is indicative, but rather the support people have for BLM and all the various anti-Trump groups and protests.  That&#039;s the true measure.

In this election, the Biden voters are the &#039;anyone but Trump&#039;.  

I found it to be a very scary, but realistic opinion.  It&#039;s either that or they are straight out manipulating the polls or lying about the results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bookworm brought up something scary in a post the other day about the polls.  She said they&#8217;re measuring the wrong thing.  It isn&#8217;t support for Biden that is indicative, but rather the support people have for BLM and all the various anti-Trump groups and protests.  That&#8217;s the true measure.</p>
<p>In this election, the Biden voters are the &#8216;anyone but Trump&#8217;.  </p>
<p>I found it to be a very scary, but realistic opinion.  It&#8217;s either that or they are straight out manipulating the polls or lying about the results.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/13/biden-and-the-56/#comment-2519581</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Biden has been weaving tangled webs for decades. For scores. He was no doubt super impressed, even titillated, by Obama&#039;s nerve.

And while the poowa fellow might not know exactly where he is or what office he&#039;s running for on any given day, he DOES KNOW (i.e., if he can remember) that he has some very, very good friends, and that they will do their utmost to help him &quot;get by&quot;. 

Think of it as Biden-privilege or Biden-culture. No wonder Hunter thought it all was a &quot;dead cert&quot;....
&quot;Twitter Labels NYPost Hunter Biden Expose As &quot;Unsafe&quot;, Won&#039;t Allow Users To Share&quot;
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/smoking-gun-emails-show-hunter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive

File under (of course): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C58ttB2-Qg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden has been weaving tangled webs for decades. For scores. He was no doubt super impressed, even titillated, by Obama&#8217;s nerve.</p>
<p>And while the poowa fellow might not know exactly where he is or what office he&#8217;s running for on any given day, he DOES KNOW (i.e., if he can remember) that he has some very, very good friends, and that they will do their utmost to help him &#8220;get by&#8221;. </p>
<p>Think of it as Biden-privilege or Biden-culture. No wonder Hunter thought it all was a &#8220;dead cert&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Twitter Labels NYPost Hunter Biden Expose As &#8220;Unsafe&#8221;, Won&#8217;t Allow Users To Share&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/smoking-gun-emails-show-hunter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/smoking-gun-emails-show-hunter-biden-introduced-vp-dad-burisma-executive</a></p>
<p>File under (of course): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C58ttB2-Qg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C58ttB2-Qg</a></p>
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		By: Geofrey+Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/13/biden-and-the-56/#comment-2519539</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, 

I ran that search and the consensus seems to be that &quot;States could pass laws pledging that they will award all of their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the national popular vote.&quot; 

I see that as unconstitutional. In a state where electors are divided according to the voting percentages for the candidates it disenfranchises those voters who did not vote for the winner of the national vote.

In a winner take all state, in a case where the majority of voters in a state have voted for the candidate who gets the lesser of the national vote... apportioning all the electors to the national vote winner would disenfranchise the majority of voters of that state. 

And the American Bar association agrees: 

&quot;over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College – without any becoming law.&#039;

&quot;the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment&quot;

&quot;The basis for the Electoral College is found in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, which spells out how the president shall be chosen.&quot; 

Article II Section 1 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The Electors shall ... make &lt;b&gt;a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate&lt;/b&gt;. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed...&quot; [my emphasis]&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

For the electors to choose one candidate to get all the votes, when the state&#039;s voters did not vote in the majority for that candidate is a clear violation of the procedure outlined in Article II Section 1. Which by the way also appears to invalidate the winner take all scenario.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, </p>
<p>I ran that search and the consensus seems to be that &#8220;States could pass laws pledging that they will award all of their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the national popular vote.&#8221; </p>
<p>I see that as unconstitutional. In a state where electors are divided according to the voting percentages for the candidates it disenfranchises those voters who did not vote for the winner of the national vote.</p>
<p>In a winner take all state, in a case where the majority of voters in a state have voted for the candidate who gets the lesser of the national vote&#8230; apportioning all the electors to the national vote winner would disenfranchise the majority of voters of that state. </p>
<p>And the American Bar association agrees: </p>
<p>&#8220;over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College – without any becoming law.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The basis for the Electoral College is found in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, which spells out how the president shall be chosen.&#8221; </p>
<p>Article II Section 1 </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Electors shall &#8230; make <b>a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate</b>. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed&#8230;&#8221; [my emphasis]</p></blockquote>
<p>For the electors to choose one candidate to get all the votes, when the state&#8217;s voters did not vote in the majority for that candidate is a clear violation of the procedure outlined in Article II Section 1. Which by the way also appears to invalidate the winner take all scenario.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/13/biden-and-the-56/#comment-2519527</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 03:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find the Electoral College thing fascinating.  It worked in 2016 exactly the way the Founding Fathers intended, preventing a candidate with strong regional popularity from overwhelming the rest of the country.  And none of the objections to it hold water because they’re all based in some way on a majoritarian objection to minority rights, yet NONE of the objectors have a single complaint about any of the other ways out system protects and defends minority rights.  Nothing could be less democratic than allowing nine lawyers in DC to override the will of the public and their elected representatives, but every single critic of the Electoral College would blow a gasket at the suggestion we eliminate the Supreme Court.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Electoral College thing fascinating.  It worked in 2016 exactly the way the Founding Fathers intended, preventing a candidate with strong regional popularity from overwhelming the rest of the country.  And none of the objections to it hold water because they’re all based in some way on a majoritarian objection to minority rights, yet NONE of the objectors have a single complaint about any of the other ways out system protects and defends minority rights.  Nothing could be less democratic than allowing nine lawyers in DC to override the will of the public and their elected representatives, but every single critic of the Electoral College would blow a gasket at the suggestion we eliminate the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/13/biden-and-the-56/#comment-2519526</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 03:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

Just do a search for &quot;ways to eliminate the electoral college without an amendment&quot; and up will pop a ton o articles on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>Just do a search for &#8220;ways to eliminate the electoral college without an amendment&#8221; and up will pop a ton o articles on the subject.</p>
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		By: Geofrey+Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/10/13/biden-and-the-56/#comment-2519519</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;if Trump were to happen to win the Electoral College and not the popular vote (as in 2016), the Democrats could use that to say he’s an illegitimate president and also to use it as an argument to abolish the Electoral College.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; neo 

If Trump loses the national vote and squeaks by in the Electoral College, the dems and MSM absolutely will say that he&#039;s an illegitimate President. Even if he wins big, some will still say that. 

However, since the Electoral College is clearly included in the Constitution, wouldn&#039;t it take a Constitutional amendment to eliminate it? If so, that&#039;s currently out of reach for the dems, as 3/4 of the State legislatures have to be on board and it will be quite some time before that threshold can be reached, even if things continue to go badly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;if Trump were to happen to win the Electoral College and not the popular vote (as in 2016), the Democrats could use that to say he’s an illegitimate president and also to use it as an argument to abolish the Electoral College.&#8221;</i> neo </p>
<p>If Trump loses the national vote and squeaks by in the Electoral College, the dems and MSM absolutely will say that he&#8217;s an illegitimate President. Even if he wins big, some will still say that. </p>
<p>However, since the Electoral College is clearly included in the Constitution, wouldn&#8217;t it take a Constitutional amendment to eliminate it? If so, that&#8217;s currently out of reach for the dems, as 3/4 of the State legislatures have to be on board and it will be quite some time before that threshold can be reached, even if things continue to go badly.</p>
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		By: Grandpagrumble		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember how Joe came out of the basement only every other day, and then put a lid on even some of those days?  But over past two weeks or so, and during the Debate, he seemed to be fairly cognizant of what was going on.  But now, once again, the gaffes and stumbles are becoming a daily occurrence as he campaigns, if you can call it that when 8 people show up and stand in their circles.   Methinks that whatever meds they put him on, some obviously very strong ones, are wearing off and not having the desired effects.  I look for a big October surprise and it will be Joe having a serious accident of some kind, not that I would ever wish that on anyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how Joe came out of the basement only every other day, and then put a lid on even some of those days?  But over past two weeks or so, and during the Debate, he seemed to be fairly cognizant of what was going on.  But now, once again, the gaffes and stumbles are becoming a daily occurrence as he campaigns, if you can call it that when 8 people show up and stand in their circles.   Methinks that whatever meds they put him on, some obviously very strong ones, are wearing off and not having the desired effects.  I look for a big October surprise and it will be Joe having a serious accident of some kind, not that I would ever wish that on anyone.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Tyler:

Not a non-issue, even in California.  As I wrote earlier, increasing the Democratic vote in California through vote by fraud would have two effects. The first is to pump up the national popular vote, so that if Trump were to happen to win the Electoral College and not the popular vote (as in 2016), the Democrats could use that to say he&#039;s an illegitimate president and also to use it as an argument to abolish the Electoral College.  The second purpose would be to win local races in California that are close.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Tyler:</p>
<p>Not a non-issue, even in California.  As I wrote earlier, increasing the Democratic vote in California through vote by fraud would have two effects. The first is to pump up the national popular vote, so that if Trump were to happen to win the Electoral College and not the popular vote (as in 2016), the Democrats could use that to say he&#8217;s an illegitimate president and also to use it as an argument to abolish the Electoral College.  The second purpose would be to win local races in California that are close.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kungfool:

He&#039;s so messed-up cognitively that it&#039;s hard to know for sure exactly the extent and nature of his bungling, but bungle he did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kungfool:</p>
<p>He&#8217;s so messed-up cognitively that it&#8217;s hard to know for sure exactly the extent and nature of his bungling, but bungle he did.</p>
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		By: Geofrey+Britain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Biden is just being honest simply because he often hasn&#039;t the ability to lie off the cuff. That&#039;s when he utters a gaff.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;one of the things Biden says – that Trump is not very honest with people – is especially ironic coming from one of the biggest and most long-term liars in American politics.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Successful con-men and arguably, Biden ranks within the top three with only Obama and Clintons ahead of him, have to be able to LIE with no hesitation at all, it bears aspects of sociopathy. Their moral conscience is severely atrophied. Biden&#039;s cognitive decline has rendered away what little ability he had in lying spontaneously.  

And the explanation for the apparent contradiction between the two lies above is that one required an ability to respond off the cuff, while the other is practiced; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Then Biden pivots to what he knows best, a trashing of Trump, which is pretty much the tactic of his entire campaign. It’s his happy place.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Biden is just being honest simply because he often hasn&#8217;t the ability to lie off the cuff. That&#8217;s when he utters a gaff.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;one of the things Biden says – that Trump is not very honest with people – is especially ironic coming from one of the biggest and most long-term liars in American politics.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Successful con-men and arguably, Biden ranks within the top three with only Obama and Clintons ahead of him, have to be able to LIE with no hesitation at all, it bears aspects of sociopathy. Their moral conscience is severely atrophied. Biden&#8217;s cognitive decline has rendered away what little ability he had in lying spontaneously.  </p>
<p>And the explanation for the apparent contradiction between the two lies above is that one required an ability to respond off the cuff, while the other is practiced; <i>&#8220;Then Biden pivots to what he knows best, a trashing of Trump, which is pretty much the tactic of his entire campaign. It’s his happy place.&#8221;</i></p>
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