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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders on October 9, 2020 at 12:53 am said: &quot;Get your own dust.&quot;

I love that story!

In re the Jews in Brooklyn, Cuomo is officially oblivious to the double standard he is supporting, although he certainly knows he&#039;s doing it:
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/10/09/watch-black-lives-matter-protesters-accost-diners-in-manhattan-orthodox-jews-sue-cuomo-over-brooklyn-restrictions/

&lt;blockquote&gt;Black Lives Matter protesters roamed through Greenwich Village in Manhattan on Thursday night, as state and local authorities continued a crackdown on public religious gatherings in Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn, citing the threat of coronavirus.

A video stream of the Black Lives Matter demonstrator &lt;b&gt;showed hundreds of protesters &lt;/b&gt;chanting and singing “Black Lives Matter,” and waving transgender and Gay Pride rainbow flags, before marching down the streets of the West Village.
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Meanwhile, in Brooklyn, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Andrew Cuomo continued to enforce restrictions in Jewish neighborhoods, owing to an uptick in coronavirus infections.

A group of Orthodox Jewish synagogues sued the governor — and were promptly followed by the Catholic diocese of Brooklyn, which filed its own lawsuit.

Cuomo told CNN on Friday morning: “This is not a matter of religious freedom, right? &lt;b&gt;I don’t care if you’re a Roman Catholic, you’re Jewish, you’re Muslim, you’re an atheist, you have to follow the rules of the state, the laws of the state.”&lt;/b&gt;
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You would think that &quot;atheist&quot; would cover BLM and Antifa, but obviously not.

And then there is the story Neo posted today. Fortunately, no one is haranguing these protesters.
Yet.

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2020/10/08/greeley-nursing-home-residents-protest-pandemic-lockdown-id-rather-die-of-covid-than-loneliness/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders on October 9, 2020 at 12:53 am said: &#8220;Get your own dust.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love that story!</p>
<p>In re the Jews in Brooklyn, Cuomo is officially oblivious to the double standard he is supporting, although he certainly knows he&#8217;s doing it:<br />
<a href="https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/10/09/watch-black-lives-matter-protesters-accost-diners-in-manhattan-orthodox-jews-sue-cuomo-over-brooklyn-restrictions/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/10/09/watch-black-lives-matter-protesters-accost-diners-in-manhattan-orthodox-jews-sue-cuomo-over-brooklyn-restrictions/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Black Lives Matter protesters roamed through Greenwich Village in Manhattan on Thursday night, as state and local authorities continued a crackdown on public religious gatherings in Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn, citing the threat of coronavirus.</p>
<p>A video stream of the Black Lives Matter demonstrator <b>showed hundreds of protesters </b>chanting and singing “Black Lives Matter,” and waving transgender and Gay Pride rainbow flags, before marching down the streets of the West Village.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Meanwhile, in Brooklyn, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Andrew Cuomo continued to enforce restrictions in Jewish neighborhoods, owing to an uptick in coronavirus infections.</p>
<p>A group of Orthodox Jewish synagogues sued the governor — and were promptly followed by the Catholic diocese of Brooklyn, which filed its own lawsuit.</p>
<p>Cuomo told CNN on Friday morning: “This is not a matter of religious freedom, right? <b>I don’t care if you’re a Roman Catholic, you’re Jewish, you’re Muslim, you’re an atheist, you have to follow the rules of the state, the laws of the state.”</b>
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<p>You would think that &#8220;atheist&#8221; would cover BLM and Antifa, but obviously not.</p>
<p>And then there is the story Neo posted today. Fortunately, no one is haranguing these protesters.<br />
Yet.</p>
<p><a href="https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2020/10/08/greeley-nursing-home-residents-protest-pandemic-lockdown-id-rather-die-of-covid-than-loneliness/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2020/10/08/greeley-nursing-home-residents-protest-pandemic-lockdown-id-rather-die-of-covid-than-loneliness/</a></p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 21:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[y81: &quot;The plain fact is that the OJ communities (if you wish, the U-O communities) of Greater New York have elevated rates of COVID infection,&quot;

I don&#039;t exactly know about these plain facts. And, especially, don&#039;t know if they are dying in greater percentages than others of similar age, obesity, Vitamin D status, and other co-morbidities.  Plus I don&#039;t trust most &quot;statistics&quot; about differentiated populations as being representative of more general populations.

I do trust death rates, and ages of dead.

It also seems that kids are both at lower risk of dying, but higher risk of spreading the disease.  
The plain facts I know about are about who dies more:
Older folk
Vit. D deficient people 
Obese folk
Patients with other co-morbidities: heart problems, breathing problems.

Most older people, including me, have some co-morbidity and are taking medicine for one thing or another.  I think, not fully sure, that almost all of those on long-term medication are at higher risk.  I think I read, tho not sure, that even adjusting for co-morbidities, older folk (over 70 certainly, maybe over 55) were at greater risk.

It might also be that those with more kids will more quickly get &quot;herd immunity&quot;, and go thru a phase of higher infection, followed by higher immunity and lower infection.  With death rates more related to co-morbidity rates.  This is what I currently expect.

If there are other plain facts out there, I&#039;d be interested in a link.  We watch world of meters:  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 
37 million cases, 1 million deaths, 27 million recovered.
After hitting about 8k world deaths per day, it&#039;s now around 5.5k per day.

NOT an existential crisis.
There are more abortions each day, for instance.
&quot;According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. This corresponds to approximately 125,000 abortions per day. In the USA, where nearly half of pregnancies are unintended and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion [1] , there are over 3,000 abortions per day&quot;

Less deaths than abortions per day, per week, per month means no crisis.

I still wear a mask, and support mask wearing, limited social distancing, and ending lockdowns.   As long as there are more abortions than coronavirus deaths, the lockdowns are excessive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y81: &#8220;The plain fact is that the OJ communities (if you wish, the U-O communities) of Greater New York have elevated rates of COVID infection,&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t exactly know about these plain facts. And, especially, don&#8217;t know if they are dying in greater percentages than others of similar age, obesity, Vitamin D status, and other co-morbidities.  Plus I don&#8217;t trust most &#8220;statistics&#8221; about differentiated populations as being representative of more general populations.</p>
<p>I do trust death rates, and ages of dead.</p>
<p>It also seems that kids are both at lower risk of dying, but higher risk of spreading the disease.<br />
The plain facts I know about are about who dies more:<br />
Older folk<br />
Vit. D deficient people<br />
Obese folk<br />
Patients with other co-morbidities: heart problems, breathing problems.</p>
<p>Most older people, including me, have some co-morbidity and are taking medicine for one thing or another.  I think, not fully sure, that almost all of those on long-term medication are at higher risk.  I think I read, tho not sure, that even adjusting for co-morbidities, older folk (over 70 certainly, maybe over 55) were at greater risk.</p>
<p>It might also be that those with more kids will more quickly get &#8220;herd immunity&#8221;, and go thru a phase of higher infection, followed by higher immunity and lower infection.  With death rates more related to co-morbidity rates.  This is what I currently expect.</p>
<p>If there are other plain facts out there, I&#8217;d be interested in a link.  We watch world of meters:  <a href="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/</a><br />
37 million cases, 1 million deaths, 27 million recovered.<br />
After hitting about 8k world deaths per day, it&#8217;s now around 5.5k per day.</p>
<p>NOT an existential crisis.<br />
There are more abortions each day, for instance.<br />
&#8220;According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. This corresponds to approximately 125,000 abortions per day. In the USA, where nearly half of pregnancies are unintended and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion [1] , there are over 3,000 abortions per day&#8221;</p>
<p>Less deaths than abortions per day, per week, per month means no crisis.</p>
<p>I still wear a mask, and support mask wearing, limited social distancing, and ending lockdowns.   As long as there are more abortions than coronavirus deaths, the lockdowns are excessive.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my old age I am coming around to the suspicion that the Universe is, first, in some sense alive, and, to one degree or the other, in some sense aware, and far more complex than we can directly perceive it to be.

Moreover, the suspicion that the Universe is actually a thing of many dimensions (our perceptual limitations limit us to being aware of, and we live in a 3 dimensional world, but current day Quantum physics posits ten or more dimensions) and realms of being—picture something akin to the many levels or spheres of being in the Buddhist or Hindu conceptions of the Universe.

Next, the suspicion that absolutely everything in the Universe is illuminated by, has within it—however small--a little bit of God or Mind.

Finally, the suspicion that everything—all originating from the same source/Big Bang--is ultimately connected to and influences—however minutely or invisibly--everything else.  

(I note that Quantum Physic&#039;s famous “double slit experiment” yields the surprising and counter-intuitive result that observation/our minds can influence things on the quantum level. Then, of course, there is “quantum entanglement.” to explain.)

The ancient Chinese, for instance, believed that the divination system of the  “I Ching” could provide a picture of the current situation at a particular moment in time because everything was--underneath it all, and at base--connected to and influenced everything else.

Thus, thrown sticks or coins did not arrange themselves into random patterns but--because they were ultimately connected to everything else in the Universe—they, instead, fell in patterns that were part of and, thus, reflective of the current state of that Universe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my old age I am coming around to the suspicion that the Universe is, first, in some sense alive, and, to one degree or the other, in some sense aware, and far more complex than we can directly perceive it to be.</p>
<p>Moreover, the suspicion that the Universe is actually a thing of many dimensions (our perceptual limitations limit us to being aware of, and we live in a 3 dimensional world, but current day Quantum physics posits ten or more dimensions) and realms of being—picture something akin to the many levels or spheres of being in the Buddhist or Hindu conceptions of the Universe.</p>
<p>Next, the suspicion that absolutely everything in the Universe is illuminated by, has within it—however small&#8211;a little bit of God or Mind.</p>
<p>Finally, the suspicion that everything—all originating from the same source/Big Bang&#8211;is ultimately connected to and influences—however minutely or invisibly&#8211;everything else.  </p>
<p>(I note that Quantum Physic&#8217;s famous “double slit experiment” yields the surprising and counter-intuitive result that observation/our minds can influence things on the quantum level. Then, of course, there is “quantum entanglement.” to explain.)</p>
<p>The ancient Chinese, for instance, believed that the divination system of the  “I Ching” could provide a picture of the current situation at a particular moment in time because everything was&#8211;underneath it all, and at base&#8211;connected to and influenced everything else.</p>
<p>Thus, thrown sticks or coins did not arrange themselves into random patterns but&#8211;because they were ultimately connected to everything else in the Universe—they, instead, fell in patterns that were part of and, thus, reflective of the current state of that Universe.</p>
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		By: Is this the &#124; gregormendelblog.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] canary in the coal mine? Yes, yes, I understand that Orthodox Jews are a totally different animal than secular Jews. Well, maybe not a totally different animal&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 04:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is happening to the Chasidim in Boro Park is very similar to what happened and will happen to Amy Coney Barrett at her inquisition, oops, I meant confirmation, hearing.  It is so unfathomable to the Left that there are still people around who actually &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;practice&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; their religion that it throws people like Cuomo into a rage.

Snow on Pine -- there&#039;s a story about that &quot;scientific&quot; view --

Scientists declare that they can make a man out of dust; that they are now the equal of God.  They announce that they will carry out their creation, and invite God to come and observe.  So, God comes to the laboratory where this great event is to take place.  He observes the scientists bustling around, setting up their equipment, their chemicals, their cameras.  Finally, everything is in place.
The lead scientist orders, &quot;Alright, Johnson, sweep up some dust and bring it over here!&quot;

And God says, &quot;Uhn-uhn.  Make your own dust.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening to the Chasidim in Boro Park is very similar to what happened and will happen to Amy Coney Barrett at her inquisition, oops, I meant confirmation, hearing.  It is so unfathomable to the Left that there are still people around who actually <i><b>practice</b></i> their religion that it throws people like Cuomo into a rage.</p>
<p>Snow on Pine &#8212; there&#8217;s a story about that &#8220;scientific&#8221; view &#8212;</p>
<p>Scientists declare that they can make a man out of dust; that they are now the equal of God.  They announce that they will carry out their creation, and invite God to come and observe.  So, God comes to the laboratory where this great event is to take place.  He observes the scientists bustling around, setting up their equipment, their chemicals, their cameras.  Finally, everything is in place.<br />
The lead scientist orders, &#8220;Alright, Johnson, sweep up some dust and bring it over here!&#8221;</p>
<p>And God says, &#8220;Uhn-uhn.  Make your own dust.&#8221;</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 01:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo - I completely agree that DeBlasio is scapegoating Jews here.  Totally!

And I do agree with your point about some groups have larger families; in fact, many of those larger families often have more than one kid sharing a bedroom.  So, when one gets sick, the whole gang in that bedroom gets sick.  They also often have their elderly grandparents living in the same house.

It is ironic that there was no claim about Black or Latin communities disobeying rules even when those communities had higher infection rates!

On the local news (here in NYC area) they showed video clips of &quot;protesters&quot; in the orthodox neighborhood - not protesting the shutdowns or anything like that.  But, protesting being made into scapegoats.

Now, in my opinion that is truly &quot;voicing ones grievance with government.&quot;  No one likes to be blamed for something they didn&#039;t do.

And, yes, there were some who rioted.  So, NOW, the mayor talks about not rioting, not doing damage, not attacking police.  Just where was this kind of talk for the last several months?  More &quot;blame the Jews&quot; as far as I am concerned.  Others riot because they have &quot;legitimate&quot; grievances; but, Jews riot when some try to make them into scapegoats and that some how or other is not okay?  Does the mayor and his supporters not know history?  Does he not know where making Jews into scapegoats led to during WWII?

Shameful, just shameful on the part of mayor DeBlasio.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo &#8211; I completely agree that DeBlasio is scapegoating Jews here.  Totally!</p>
<p>And I do agree with your point about some groups have larger families; in fact, many of those larger families often have more than one kid sharing a bedroom.  So, when one gets sick, the whole gang in that bedroom gets sick.  They also often have their elderly grandparents living in the same house.</p>
<p>It is ironic that there was no claim about Black or Latin communities disobeying rules even when those communities had higher infection rates!</p>
<p>On the local news (here in NYC area) they showed video clips of &#8220;protesters&#8221; in the orthodox neighborhood &#8211; not protesting the shutdowns or anything like that.  But, protesting being made into scapegoats.</p>
<p>Now, in my opinion that is truly &#8220;voicing ones grievance with government.&#8221;  No one likes to be blamed for something they didn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>And, yes, there were some who rioted.  So, NOW, the mayor talks about not rioting, not doing damage, not attacking police.  Just where was this kind of talk for the last several months?  More &#8220;blame the Jews&#8221; as far as I am concerned.  Others riot because they have &#8220;legitimate&#8221; grievances; but, Jews riot when some try to make them into scapegoats and that some how or other is not okay?  Does the mayor and his supporters not know history?  Does he not know where making Jews into scapegoats led to during WWII?</p>
<p>Shameful, just shameful on the part of mayor DeBlasio.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 22:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AppleBetty--Don&#039;t you mean,  &quot;amor voluntatis Dei,&quot; the love of the will of God?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AppleBetty&#8211;Don&#8217;t you mean,  &#8220;amor voluntatis Dei,&#8221; the love of the will of God?</p>
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		By: AppleBetty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine, then amor voluntatis!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine, then amor voluntatis!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 16:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.---I don&#039;t know about you, but as for me, a “scientific” viewpoint, one which sees the Universe as solely composed of soulless matter, of molecules and atoms which arose as the result of random chance.

“Life” merely the lucky result of trillions of random combinations of those atoms and molecules, those chemicals over billions of years, and us with no ultimate purpose.

Well, then, such a view of the Universe, of us, and of our place in that Universe is a bleak and extremely unsatisfying one, one which I reject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8212;I don&#8217;t know about you, but as for me, a “scientific” viewpoint, one which sees the Universe as solely composed of soulless matter, of molecules and atoms which arose as the result of random chance.</p>
<p>“Life” merely the lucky result of trillions of random combinations of those atoms and molecules, those chemicals over billions of years, and us with no ultimate purpose.</p>
<p>Well, then, such a view of the Universe, of us, and of our place in that Universe is a bleak and extremely unsatisfying one, one which I reject.</p>
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		By: RAM500		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I often read in the left/liberal media that their favored minorities (not Jews) have a higher rate of COVID-19 infection than the general population, proving healthcare discrimination or something.  If they really believe this, their stooges in government should be inflicting their wonderful edicts on these minorities&#039; neighborhoods, which, of course, won&#039;t happen.

Moreover, the lack of perfect compliance with edicts has caused no recent death wave in the Jewish neighborhoods, proving how worthless the edicts now are in general.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often read in the left/liberal media that their favored minorities (not Jews) have a higher rate of COVID-19 infection than the general population, proving healthcare discrimination or something.  If they really believe this, their stooges in government should be inflicting their wonderful edicts on these minorities&#8217; neighborhoods, which, of course, won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Moreover, the lack of perfect compliance with edicts has caused no recent death wave in the Jewish neighborhoods, proving how worthless the edicts now are in general.</p>
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