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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/where-does-governor-newsom-think/#comment-2516759</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;om on September 25, 2020 at 11:53 am said:
Speaking of idiots, where is Montage on this topic? Riding his magic bicycle down by the beach?&lt;/b&gt;

Montage&#039;s higher self is in therapy sessions with Ymar&#039;s higher self. They getting a good lecture by now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>om on September 25, 2020 at 11:53 am said:<br />
Speaking of idiots, where is Montage on this topic? Riding his magic bicycle down by the beach?</b></p>
<p>Montage&#8217;s higher self is in therapy sessions with Ymar&#8217;s higher self. They getting a good lecture by now.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo, how neat! Actual engineers. That makes me feel a little better. I didn&#039;t know about their backgrounds. I remember Vern Ehlers had a degree in physics, I believe it was, but he was in Congress a good while ago - that was why I felt safe in saying &quot;a&quot; Congresscritter, attempting to confine the question to the present membership of that august body by implication. But I was also wrong there!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo, how neat! Actual engineers. That makes me feel a little better. I didn&#8217;t know about their backgrounds. I remember Vern Ehlers had a degree in physics, I believe it was, but he was in Congress a good while ago &#8211; that was why I felt safe in saying &#8220;a&#8221; Congresscritter, attempting to confine the question to the present membership of that august body by implication. But I was also wrong there!</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip Sells:
&lt;i&gt;As I write, for example, I’m listening to a technical presentation about an important project related to my work. No way a Congresscritter would have the remotest hope of grasping this material – okay, maybe in the most superficial, general way, but no more than that, I’m confident. But is it really reasonable or appropriate to expect them to have that ability, I ask myself?&lt;/i&gt;

One possible exception:  the &lt;a href=&quot;https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Sununu+engineer+politician&#038;t=brave&#038;ia=web&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Sununu engineer politician&lt;/a&gt; family in NH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Sells:<br />
<i>As I write, for example, I’m listening to a technical presentation about an important project related to my work. No way a Congresscritter would have the remotest hope of grasping this material – okay, maybe in the most superficial, general way, but no more than that, I’m confident. But is it really reasonable or appropriate to expect them to have that ability, I ask myself?</i></p>
<p>One possible exception:  the <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Sununu+engineer+politician&amp;t=brave&amp;ia=web" rel="nofollow ugc">Sununu engineer politician</a> family in NH.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/where-does-governor-newsom-think/#comment-2516696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, David Foster - your point makes me wonder how much technical or scientific competence it is reasonable to expect from our officials, elected or otherwise. (Maybe it is possible to justify differing levels of comprehension when comparing certain kinds of elected vs. unelected officials. Say, legislators should have such-and-such minimum knowledge or learning-ability basis, whereas judges maybe a little more or less, depending.)

I separate this question from &lt;i&gt;expertise&lt;/i&gt; in one or more technical fields.

As I write, for example, I&#039;m listening to a technical presentation about an important project related to my work. No way a Congresscritter would have the remotest hope of grasping this material - okay, maybe in the most superficial, general way, but no more than that, I&#039;m confident. But is it really reasonable or appropriate to expect them to have that ability, I ask myself?

Now if it is reasonable to have some such expectation, how is the public supposed to screen candidates for that when the MSM has no competence in whom it pushes? This aside from the painfully obvious factors among the voting public such as innumeracy. I think this is an area in which the existing de-facto mechanisms of our particular system of government are hitting a wall these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David Foster &#8211; your point makes me wonder how much technical or scientific competence it is reasonable to expect from our officials, elected or otherwise. (Maybe it is possible to justify differing levels of comprehension when comparing certain kinds of elected vs. unelected officials. Say, legislators should have such-and-such minimum knowledge or learning-ability basis, whereas judges maybe a little more or less, depending.)</p>
<p>I separate this question from <i>expertise</i> in one or more technical fields.</p>
<p>As I write, for example, I&#8217;m listening to a technical presentation about an important project related to my work. No way a Congresscritter would have the remotest hope of grasping this material &#8211; okay, maybe in the most superficial, general way, but no more than that, I&#8217;m confident. But is it really reasonable or appropriate to expect them to have that ability, I ask myself?</p>
<p>Now if it is reasonable to have some such expectation, how is the public supposed to screen candidates for that when the MSM has no competence in whom it pushes? This aside from the painfully obvious factors among the voting public such as innumeracy. I think this is an area in which the existing de-facto mechanisms of our particular system of government are hitting a wall these days.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being led by experts and technocrats who are manifestly ignorant, could that be a problem?  Not when we have executive orders, one party governments, and and a rouge and out of control bureaucracy.  History shows they can engineer a famine, worsen a natural disaster, or magnify a contagion; but can they actually do good?  Nope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being led by experts and technocrats who are manifestly ignorant, could that be a problem?  Not when we have executive orders, one party governments, and and a rouge and out of control bureaucracy.  History shows they can engineer a famine, worsen a natural disaster, or magnify a contagion; but can they actually do good?  Nope.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even for people who are a lot smarter and more thoughtful than Newsom, the problems of electricity supply and demand seem hard to understand.  Few seem to understand just how hard and expensive it is to store large amounts of electricity.

The authors of almost all articles about energy fail to comprehend the difference between megawatts and megawatt-hours, which is all-important when one is talking about energy storage.  To state the storage capacity of a battery or other energy storage system in megawatts is like stating the capacity of your car&#039;s gas tank in horsepower; it is a category error.  This is true not just of general journalists but of busines and &#039;technology&#039; journalists as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even for people who are a lot smarter and more thoughtful than Newsom, the problems of electricity supply and demand seem hard to understand.  Few seem to understand just how hard and expensive it is to store large amounts of electricity.</p>
<p>The authors of almost all articles about energy fail to comprehend the difference between megawatts and megawatt-hours, which is all-important when one is talking about energy storage.  To state the storage capacity of a battery or other energy storage system in megawatts is like stating the capacity of your car&#8217;s gas tank in horsepower; it is a category error.  This is true not just of general journalists but of busines and &#8216;technology&#8217; journalists as well.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Newsom&#039;s mind, most likely, the only reason we don&#039;t have plenty of clean energy from some perfect source with no bad side effects is that Evil People...probably the oil companies...are blocking it.  No need to worry about details of technology and economics, just get rid of those Evil People, and all will be well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Newsom&#8217;s mind, most likely, the only reason we don&#8217;t have plenty of clean energy from some perfect source with no bad side effects is that Evil People&#8230;probably the oil companies&#8230;are blocking it.  No need to worry about details of technology and economics, just get rid of those Evil People, and all will be well.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All these Governors and Presidents churning out all of these Executive Orders lately... very strange. Is this now the preferred method of governance?

I suddenly wondered why Newsom chose this route that we have been discussing by which to kneecap the fossil-fuel economy on the West Coast. Did he feel the state legislature would be insufficiently compliant as a means to enact this program by normal means? Why, since CA is so left as it is? Maybe it just seemed more efficient to him to do it this way. Maybe there were other, higher-order effects that he wishes to cause by this method. I don&#039;t follow his entire history of ruling by executive orders, so maybe there&#039;s some kind of inside baseball background here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these Governors and Presidents churning out all of these Executive Orders lately&#8230; very strange. Is this now the preferred method of governance?</p>
<p>I suddenly wondered why Newsom chose this route that we have been discussing by which to kneecap the fossil-fuel economy on the West Coast. Did he feel the state legislature would be insufficiently compliant as a means to enact this program by normal means? Why, since CA is so left as it is? Maybe it just seemed more efficient to him to do it this way. Maybe there were other, higher-order effects that he wishes to cause by this method. I don&#8217;t follow his entire history of ruling by executive orders, so maybe there&#8217;s some kind of inside baseball background here.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aerialist
&lt;blockquote&gt;Equating this order with turning California into old Communist China is sensationalism and just as fake as lots of other “news”. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Newsome&#039;s  &quot;executive order&quot;  is more like a decree: an order having the force of law. Commies and other dictators rule by decree. I want it so, and so it shall be. 

As California currently imports about a quarter to a third of its electrical energy, Newsome&#039;s &quot;executive order,&quot; a.k.a. decree, flouts reality. How is a state that is far from self-sufficient in electrical energy, going to supply the vastly increased need for electrical energy that this  decree implies? 

I am reminded of Mao&#039;s decree that certain bird species, because they had been observed eating grain planted in fields, should be hunted down. Guess what? Because those birds also ate a lot of insects, fewer birds caused insect populations to zoom upwards, resulting in devastated grain crops. Set the stage for the great famine.

As both the Governor and Mao have  issued decrees that flout reality, I find the comparison apt. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;I would like to read objective articles about self-driving cars, better batteries, and the real cost of alternative energy. Labeling each other and our leaders is not productive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you haven&#039;t already noticed, Huxley provided a link.
&lt;blockquote&gt;–“Shocker: Top Google Engineers Say Renewable Energy ‘Simply won’t work&#039;”&lt;/blockquote&gt;Have you taken the effort to read it? Inquiring minds want to know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aerialist</p>
<blockquote><p>Equating this order with turning California into old Communist China is sensationalism and just as fake as lots of other “news”. </p></blockquote>
<p>Newsome&#8217;s  &#8220;executive order&#8221;  is more like a decree: an order having the force of law. Commies and other dictators rule by decree. I want it so, and so it shall be. </p>
<p>As California currently imports about a quarter to a third of its electrical energy, Newsome&#8217;s &#8220;executive order,&#8221; a.k.a. decree, flouts reality. How is a state that is far from self-sufficient in electrical energy, going to supply the vastly increased need for electrical energy that this  decree implies? </p>
<p>I am reminded of Mao&#8217;s decree that certain bird species, because they had been observed eating grain planted in fields, should be hunted down. Guess what? Because those birds also ate a lot of insects, fewer birds caused insect populations to zoom upwards, resulting in devastated grain crops. Set the stage for the great famine.</p>
<p>As both the Governor and Mao have  issued decrees that flout reality, I find the comparison apt. </p>
<blockquote><p>I would like to read objective articles about self-driving cars, better batteries, and the real cost of alternative energy. Labeling each other and our leaders is not productive.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already noticed, Huxley provided a link.</p>
<blockquote><p>–“Shocker: Top Google Engineers Say Renewable Energy ‘Simply won’t work&#8217;”</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you taken the effort to read it? Inquiring minds want to know.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of idiots, where is Montage on this topic?  Riding his magic bicycle down by the beach?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of idiots, where is Montage on this topic?  Riding his magic bicycle down by the beach?</p>
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