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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I keep saying, I don&#039;t know if the media are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or it it&#039;s the other way round, but I DO know that they are in cahoots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I keep saying, I don&#8217;t know if the media are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or it it&#8217;s the other way round, but I DO know that they are in cahoots.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...untenable...&quot;

Smart money would have it that Sullivan&#039;s position/attitude/sentiments towards Flynn were NEVER tenable---from the get-go---though His Honor essentially blew himself out  of the water when he threw that extraordinary tantrum, calling Flynn &quot;a traitor to his country&quot; (I&#039;m paraphrasing). True, he did apologize when he was corrected---by the prosecutor---on that less than judicious outburst; nonetheless, at that point, he should have recused himself or been prevented from continuing. But crickets, nothing happened. Business as usual.

And so, it seems clear that Flynn&#039;s defense team was either in cahoots with the prosecution or, more probably, were being leaned on, or rather &quot;gently persuaded&quot; to proceed in a particular direction (or should that be, &quot;not proceed&quot;), similar to the &quot;gentle persuasion&quot; that Obama&#039;s precocious goons used on Flynn, viz. that he wouldn&#039;t want anything to happen to his son now, would he? (Similar to the &quot;gentle persuasion&quot; employed by Michelle Obama, with all the eloquence at her command---that if the American People doesn&#039;t vote for the, um, right candidate, in November then the violence in America&#039;s cities my well, um, be &quot;likely&quot; to continue. And not just Michelle Obama. Curious that.)

So how does one make an untenable judge even more untenable?

It might just have to be time to open the floodgates, Richard Grenell style---not that any of it will be reported by the MSCM (except to disparage Trump and the Republican Party). But if it appears on Fox, that might be just enough. It will, of course, be given prime time by the center and center-right blogs and publications.

None of this should really bother Judge Sullivan, though. He has shown that his finger remains firmly in the dyke. He has weathered several serious storms, and he has proven his loyalty to Obama time and time again, shrewdly and convincingly obstructing the law in ways that many of his peers appear to find defensible. On that point he will be judged more than favorably by all the beautiful people.

So what WILL bother Judge Sullivan (who I am certain has his next &quot;convincing&quot; delaying tactic all lined up for the upcoming round)? 

It would be most interesting to learn the answer to that one...and I hope we are about to find out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;untenable&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Smart money would have it that Sullivan&#8217;s position/attitude/sentiments towards Flynn were NEVER tenable&#8212;from the get-go&#8212;though His Honor essentially blew himself out  of the water when he threw that extraordinary tantrum, calling Flynn &#8220;a traitor to his country&#8221; (I&#8217;m paraphrasing). True, he did apologize when he was corrected&#8212;by the prosecutor&#8212;on that less than judicious outburst; nonetheless, at that point, he should have recused himself or been prevented from continuing. But crickets, nothing happened. Business as usual.</p>
<p>And so, it seems clear that Flynn&#8217;s defense team was either in cahoots with the prosecution or, more probably, were being leaned on, or rather &#8220;gently persuaded&#8221; to proceed in a particular direction (or should that be, &#8220;not proceed&#8221;), similar to the &#8220;gentle persuasion&#8221; that Obama&#8217;s precocious goons used on Flynn, viz. that he wouldn&#8217;t want anything to happen to his son now, would he? (Similar to the &#8220;gentle persuasion&#8221; employed by Michelle Obama, with all the eloquence at her command&#8212;that if the American People doesn&#8217;t vote for the, um, right candidate, in November then the violence in America&#8217;s cities my well, um, be &#8220;likely&#8221; to continue. And not just Michelle Obama. Curious that.)</p>
<p>So how does one make an untenable judge even more untenable?</p>
<p>It might just have to be time to open the floodgates, Richard Grenell style&#8212;not that any of it will be reported by the MSCM (except to disparage Trump and the Republican Party). But if it appears on Fox, that might be just enough. It will, of course, be given prime time by the center and center-right blogs and publications.</p>
<p>None of this should really bother Judge Sullivan, though. He has shown that his finger remains firmly in the dyke. He has weathered several serious storms, and he has proven his loyalty to Obama time and time again, shrewdly and convincingly obstructing the law in ways that many of his peers appear to find defensible. On that point he will be judged more than favorably by all the beautiful people.</p>
<p>So what WILL bother Judge Sullivan (who I am certain has his next &#8220;convincing&#8221; delaying tactic all lined up for the upcoming round)? </p>
<p>It would be most interesting to learn the answer to that one&#8230;and I hope we are about to find out.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/hunter-and-joe-and-the-msm/#comment-2516654</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 05:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On those 500 defense persons endorsing Biden.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/24/nearly-500-generals-admirals-endorse-joe-biden-blast-donald-trump/3503917001/
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The letter &lt;b&gt;praises Biden for his morality, integrity and experience.&lt;/b&gt; The letter excoriates Trump without mentioning him by name.

&quot;The current President has demonstrated he is not equal to the enormous responsibilities of his office; he cannot rise to meet challenges large or small,&quot; the group writes. &quot;Thanks to his disdainful attitude and his failures, &lt;b&gt;our allies no longer trust or respect us, and our enemies no longer fear us.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;
...
The list also includes officials from the White House such as Susan Rice, Obama&#039;s national security adviser; John Kerry, his secretary of State; and  James Clapper, his director of National Intelligence.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Biden was their buddy, so of course they can&#039;t admit he&#039;s a corrupt, senile, fraud.

But -- to match their complaint -- our allies apparently include Iran, Syria, Russia, and China; and our enemies are mostly Israel and assorted Middle Eastern &#038; Balkan nations.
Good to know.

Sure glad none of these people still have operational authority.
They don&#039;t seem to be very perceptive.
&lt;blockquote&gt;

&quot;This is a referendum on whether we want to reinforce and establish what has kept this democratic experiment in play for the last 250 years or so or go into uncharted territory and redefine who we are as Americans,&quot; O&#039;Keefe said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We don&#039;t need to redefine who we are, we just need to get back to being Americans after cruising through the uncharted territory of the Left for about half of those 250 years.

Just a little side note: 
These are the fine, upstanding citizens who attempted to execute a coup d&#039;etat against the legally elected President of the United States, the nation whose security they were charged with defending.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On those 500 defense persons endorsing Biden.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/24/nearly-500-generals-admirals-endorse-joe-biden-blast-donald-trump/3503917001/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/24/nearly-500-generals-admirals-endorse-joe-biden-blast-donald-trump/3503917001/</a></p>
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The letter <b>praises Biden for his morality, integrity and experience.</b> The letter excoriates Trump without mentioning him by name.</p>
<p>&#8220;The current President has demonstrated he is not equal to the enormous responsibilities of his office; he cannot rise to meet challenges large or small,&#8221; the group writes. &#8220;Thanks to his disdainful attitude and his failures, <b>our allies no longer trust or respect us, and our enemies no longer fear us.&#8221;</b><br />
&#8230;<br />
The list also includes officials from the White House such as Susan Rice, Obama&#8217;s national security adviser; John Kerry, his secretary of State; and  James Clapper, his director of National Intelligence.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Biden was their buddy, so of course they can&#8217;t admit he&#8217;s a corrupt, senile, fraud.</p>
<p>But &#8212; to match their complaint &#8212; our allies apparently include Iran, Syria, Russia, and China; and our enemies are mostly Israel and assorted Middle Eastern &amp; Balkan nations.<br />
Good to know.</p>
<p>Sure glad none of these people still have operational authority.<br />
They don&#8217;t seem to be very perceptive.</p>
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<p>&#8220;This is a referendum on whether we want to reinforce and establish what has kept this democratic experiment in play for the last 250 years or so or go into uncharted territory and redefine who we are as Americans,&#8221; O&#8217;Keefe said.</p></blockquote>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to redefine who we are, we just need to get back to being Americans after cruising through the uncharted territory of the Left for about half of those 250 years.</p>
<p>Just a little side note:<br />
These are the fine, upstanding citizens who attempted to execute a coup d&#8217;etat against the legally elected President of the United States, the nation whose security they were charged with defending.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/hunter-and-joe-and-the-msm/#comment-2516653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 05:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt; the Bidens being somewhat more corrupt even than the Clintons.&lt;/i&gt;

Nope. Not even close.

Upon leaving the WH, the Clintons were &quot;broke&quot;. 

By 2016, the Clinton Foundation was worth upwards from 150 MILLION.

Joe and his family are all pikers by the Clinton Standard. Clinton is right up there with Boss Tweed for corruption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i> the Bidens being somewhat more corrupt even than the Clintons.</i></p>
<p>Nope. Not even close.</p>
<p>Upon leaving the WH, the Clintons were &#8220;broke&#8221;. </p>
<p>By 2016, the Clinton Foundation was worth upwards from 150 MILLION.</p>
<p>Joe and his family are all pikers by the Clinton Standard. Clinton is right up there with Boss Tweed for corruption.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/hunter-and-joe-and-the-msm/#comment-2516652</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 05:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin on September 24, 2020 at 5:07 pm said
And here’s “insurance” of another kind (several kinds of “insurance”, in fact):
* * *
I suspect there will be a Neo post on this tomorrow (today?), but my feeling is (and has been) that the DOJ tried to nudge Sullivan to drop the case so they wouldn&#039;t have to air all the FBI&#039;s dirty linen in public; and now Barr&#039;s people are feeding info to Powell to make the judge&#039;s position untenable any longer.

I guess these agents weren&#039;t unlucky enough to enter the wrong passwords 10 times and wipe their phones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin on September 24, 2020 at 5:07 pm said<br />
And here’s “insurance” of another kind (several kinds of “insurance”, in fact):<br />
* * *<br />
I suspect there will be a Neo post on this tomorrow (today?), but my feeling is (and has been) that the DOJ tried to nudge Sullivan to drop the case so they wouldn&#8217;t have to air all the FBI&#8217;s dirty linen in public; and now Barr&#8217;s people are feeding info to Powell to make the judge&#8217;s position untenable any longer.</p>
<p>I guess these agents weren&#8217;t unlucky enough to enter the wrong passwords 10 times and wipe their phones.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 05:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by &lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;[Joe]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt; Biden.&lt;/i&gt;

There was a missing word, which somehow was &quot;mistakenly&quot; edited out...

Glad I could help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by </i><b>[Joe]</b><i> Biden.</i></p>
<p>There was a missing word, which somehow was &#8220;mistakenly&#8221; edited out&#8230;</p>
<p>Glad I could help.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/hunter-and-joe-and-the-msm/#comment-2516650</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I worry the Dems will steal the election in the most blatant, visible way possible then gun down any protesters among us who rise up.&quot; - JimNorCal

They won&#039;t need violence, just lawyers and judges.
See: dismissing the verdict against the New Black Panthers in 2008.

And a few election officials in strategic places, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I worry the Dems will steal the election in the most blatant, visible way possible then gun down any protesters among us who rise up.&#8221; &#8211; JimNorCal</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t need violence, just lawyers and judges.<br />
See: dismissing the verdict against the New Black Panthers in 2008.</p>
<p>And a few election officials in strategic places, of course.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/24/hunter-and-joe-and-the-msm/#comment-2516649</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geofrey Britain on September 24, 2020 at 8:23 pm said:
“Nearly 500 generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday, and blasted President Donald Trump as “not equal” to the challenges of the presidency.” USA Today

Well that just gives an indication of how deep the rot goes among generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties.

It’s also very considerate of them to identify themselves…
* * *
I hope all the flag officers are also &quot;former&quot; or they are in a world of trouble.
The fact that there are FIVE HUNDRED of them means we are in a world of trouble, aside from their politics.
How many are employed by the military-industrial complex with ties to China?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Trump isn&#039;t equal to the &quot;challenges of the presidency&quot; -- he exceeds them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geofrey Britain on September 24, 2020 at 8:23 pm said:<br />
“Nearly 500 generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday, and blasted President Donald Trump as “not equal” to the challenges of the presidency.” USA Today</p>
<p>Well that just gives an indication of how deep the rot goes among generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties.</p>
<p>It’s also very considerate of them to identify themselves…<br />
* * *<br />
I hope all the flag officers are also &#8220;former&#8221; or they are in a world of trouble.<br />
The fact that there are FIVE HUNDRED of them means we are in a world of trouble, aside from their politics.<br />
How many are employed by the military-industrial complex with ties to China?<br />
Inquiring minds want to know.</p>
<p>Trump isn&#8217;t equal to the &#8220;challenges of the presidency&#8221; &#8212; he exceeds them.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy - Everyone knows 2 + 2 = 5.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy &#8211; Everyone knows 2 + 2 = 5.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interesting long term impact of all this is that, once you toss the scrap of a fragment of a chip of a sliver of NeverTrumpers overboard, there&#039;s now a conservative intellectual class that has a lot of defining events like Kavanaugh and the unraveling of the Russia hoax sharply cutting them off from the go-along-to-get-along attitude of the past.  Even guys lukewarm or mildly hostile to Trump like Ari Fleischer and Andrew McCarthy can now recite chapter and verse of Democratic bad faith and arguably unpatriotic behavior.

You really have to go all the way back to 80s when the Cold War was still around to find that kind of feeling widespread on the Right.  Even when Trump is gone, the conservative mindset will remain altered for probably a generation.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting long term impact of all this is that, once you toss the scrap of a fragment of a chip of a sliver of NeverTrumpers overboard, there&#8217;s now a conservative intellectual class that has a lot of defining events like Kavanaugh and the unraveling of the Russia hoax sharply cutting them off from the go-along-to-get-along attitude of the past.  Even guys lukewarm or mildly hostile to Trump like Ari Fleischer and Andrew McCarthy can now recite chapter and verse of Democratic bad faith and arguably unpatriotic behavior.</p>
<p>You really have to go all the way back to 80s when the Cold War was still around to find that kind of feeling widespread on the Right.  Even when Trump is gone, the conservative mindset will remain altered for probably a generation.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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