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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More like &quot;Back to the Future&quot;. (Let&#039;s hope, against hope, that it&#039;s not &quot;with a vengeance&quot;...)
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals
H/T Powerline blog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like &#8220;Back to the Future&#8221;. (Let&#8217;s hope, against hope, that it&#8217;s not &#8220;with a vengeance&#8221;&#8230;)<br />
<a href="https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progress.</p>
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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xylourgos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 06:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Former Loyola University professor and Director of the School of Mass Communications, Dr. Sonya Duhe, has filed a lawsuit against the University to be reinstated to her position. In May, Duhe accepted an offer from Arizona State University to become the Dean of the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication. Duhe also submitted her letter of resignation to Loyola University.

ASU later terminated Duhe’s contract after accusations were made against her by several former and current Loyola University students citing racial bias by Duhe.

I hope she wins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Loyola University professor and Director of the School of Mass Communications, Dr. Sonya Duhe, has filed a lawsuit against the University to be reinstated to her position. In May, Duhe accepted an offer from Arizona State University to become the Dean of the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication. Duhe also submitted her letter of resignation to Loyola University.</p>
<p>ASU later terminated Duhe’s contract after accusations were made against her by several former and current Loyola University students citing racial bias by Duhe.</p>
<p>I hope she wins.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 05:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was on PowerLines headlines panel today.
It shows that the J-Schools are only part of the Cancel trend.
In fact, the deference shown to the academic&#039;s temper tantrum does not bode well for her institution.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/lamonby-case-campus-week]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was on PowerLines headlines panel today.<br />
It shows that the J-Schools are only part of the Cancel trend.<br />
In fact, the deference shown to the academic&#8217;s temper tantrum does not bode well for her institution.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/lamonby-case-campus-week" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/lamonby-case-campus-week</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jurnolest lern to cod for the shear halibut. AArgh!&quot; - om

They could probably find work at Google these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jurnolest lern to cod for the shear halibut. AArgh!&#8221; &#8211; om</p>
<p>They could probably find work at Google these days.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Walter Cronkite said on receiving a global-governance award in 1999: “I am in a position to speak my mind. And that is what I propose to do.” &quot;

His mind was often confused about reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Walter Cronkite said on receiving a global-governance award in 1999: “I am in a position to speak my mind. And that is what I propose to do.” &#8221;</p>
<p>His mind was often confused about reality.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray
&lt;i&gt;Where I went to college the education majors were notorious for being the dumbest kids on campus.&lt;/i&gt;

No doubt that the average aptitude level for teachers has declined from the days that female college graduates  were channeled into nursing and teaching. Nonetheless, for teachers passing the Praxis teacher certification tests, their SAT scores compared to other college graduates are not quite what you claim. The Educational Testing Service&#039;s report, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ets.org/Media/Education_Topics/pdf/TQ_full_report.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Teacher Quality in a Changing Policy Landscape: Improvements in the Teacher Pool&lt;/a&gt;   compares the SAT scores of those who passed the Praxis tests for teacher certification with the average SAT scores of other college graduates. 

We find from Figure 20 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Verbal, the average score was 543. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT Verbal of 543: Physical Education, Special Education, and Elementary Education(517). Teachers in the following specialties scored above the average SAT Verbal of 543:Art &#038; Music, Mathematics, Social Studies, Foreign Languages, Science, and English, in order of increasing scores.  

Reading from the bar graph, I would estimate that certified English teachers averaged 573 on the SAT-Verbal. No, not top-of-the-line, but far from bottom of the barrel, and above the average college graduate.

We find  from Figure 21 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Math, the average score was 542. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT-Math of 542: Physical Education, Special Education, Elementary Education(510),Art &#038; Music,English, Social Studies, and Foreign Languages, in order of increasing scores.  We are not particularly concerned about Math SAT scores for English or Social studies teachers. For teaching specialties where math skills are important, Science (570) and Math ( 595) teachers scored above the 542 SAT-Math that college graduates averaged. (I am estimating from a bar graph) Not bottom-of-the-barrel, but instead above average. 

Offhand I don&#039;t know how elementary teacher SAT scores go in a quintile, but they are only 25-30 points below the average. I guess that is higher than bottom quintile, but that is a guess.
Secondary teachers are in the middle, and above average in the SAT scores related to their specialties.

Figures 20 and 21
SAT Verbal Scores by Licensing Area for Those
Passing Praxis Tests (20) and SAT Math Scores by Licensing Area for Those
Passing Praxis Tests (21)

Page 22, for 2002-2005.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray<br />
<i>Where I went to college the education majors were notorious for being the dumbest kids on campus.</i></p>
<p>No doubt that the average aptitude level for teachers has declined from the days that female college graduates  were channeled into nursing and teaching. Nonetheless, for teachers passing the Praxis teacher certification tests, their SAT scores compared to other college graduates are not quite what you claim. The Educational Testing Service&#8217;s report, <a href="https://www.ets.org/Media/Education_Topics/pdf/TQ_full_report.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">Teacher Quality in a Changing Policy Landscape: Improvements in the Teacher Pool</a>   compares the SAT scores of those who passed the Praxis tests for teacher certification with the average SAT scores of other college graduates. </p>
<p>We find from Figure 20 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Verbal, the average score was 543. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT Verbal of 543: Physical Education, Special Education, and Elementary Education(517). Teachers in the following specialties scored above the average SAT Verbal of 543:Art &amp; Music, Mathematics, Social Studies, Foreign Languages, Science, and English, in order of increasing scores.  </p>
<p>Reading from the bar graph, I would estimate that certified English teachers averaged 573 on the SAT-Verbal. No, not top-of-the-line, but far from bottom of the barrel, and above the average college graduate.</p>
<p>We find  from Figure 21 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Math, the average score was 542. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT-Math of 542: Physical Education, Special Education, Elementary Education(510),Art &amp; Music,English, Social Studies, and Foreign Languages, in order of increasing scores.  We are not particularly concerned about Math SAT scores for English or Social studies teachers. For teaching specialties where math skills are important, Science (570) and Math ( 595) teachers scored above the 542 SAT-Math that college graduates averaged. (I am estimating from a bar graph) Not bottom-of-the-barrel, but instead above average. </p>
<p>Offhand I don&#8217;t know how elementary teacher SAT scores go in a quintile, but they are only 25-30 points below the average. I guess that is higher than bottom quintile, but that is a guess.<br />
Secondary teachers are in the middle, and above average in the SAT scores related to their specialties.</p>
<p>Figures 20 and 21<br />
SAT Verbal Scores by Licensing Area for Those<br />
Passing Praxis Tests (20) and SAT Math Scores by Licensing Area for Those<br />
Passing Praxis Tests (21)</p>
<p>Page 22, for 2002-2005.</p>
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		By: Ackler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ackler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Others may disagree, but I would wager Journalism is the most woke, most vapid and most insufferable degree, that does contain the word &quot;studies&quot; or &quot;theory&quot; in its title, one can get on most college campuses these days]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others may disagree, but I would wager Journalism is the most woke, most vapid and most insufferable degree, that does contain the word &#8220;studies&#8221; or &#8220;theory&#8221; in its title, one can get on most college campuses these days</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Facts?  We don&#039;t got no stinkin&#039; facts!  We don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; facts!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Facts?  We don&#8217;t got no stinkin&#8217; facts!  We don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; facts!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where I went to college the education majors were notorious for being the dumbest kids on campus. We didn&#039;t have a journalism school but it looks like J school majors could give the teacher education majors a run for the money in the dumb butt contest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I went to college the education majors were notorious for being the dumbest kids on campus. We didn&#8217;t have a journalism school but it looks like J school majors could give the teacher education majors a run for the money in the dumb butt contest.</p>
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