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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513987</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 08:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Corroboration...&quot;

Ah, yes. Who could possibly forget the Great Avenatti?

The (con)fabulous Christopher Steele?

Actually, I think the Left understand &quot;corrobation&quot; very, very well: You float a whole litany of lies out there---a whole network, an entire web---and you keep telling them (you reinforce them; you &quot;corroborate&quot; them) so that they become irrefutable.

So that reality becomes entirely perverted.

(Society eventually collapses because of the immense weight of those lies, but the operation is a huge success, it&#039;s planners deserving of a well-earned pat on the back along with the adulation of the faithful, of the persuaded.... Until disaster strikes, that is....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Corroboration&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, yes. Who could possibly forget the Great Avenatti?</p>
<p>The (con)fabulous Christopher Steele?</p>
<p>Actually, I think the Left understand &#8220;corrobation&#8221; very, very well: You float a whole litany of lies out there&#8212;a whole network, an entire web&#8212;and you keep telling them (you reinforce them; you &#8220;corroborate&#8221; them) so that they become irrefutable.</p>
<p>So that reality becomes entirely perverted.</p>
<p>(Society eventually collapses because of the immense weight of those lies, but the operation is a huge success, it&#8217;s planners deserving of a well-earned pat on the back along with the adulation of the faithful, of the persuaded&#8230;. Until disaster strikes, that is&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mollie said the same thing.
No names, no sources.
If you are going to be a whistleblower, you have to blow the whistle in public.

https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1301980171306754049
&lt;blockquote&gt;Reminder: it is literally impossible for anonymous sources to “confirm” a report, particularly when the original report is based solely on anonymous sources. The same people can repeat claims to multiple reporters, of course, particularly when engaged in a campaign operation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Glenn Greenwald at the Intercept talked about the news media that &quot;confirmed&quot; CNN&#039;s false story about Wikileaks giving info to Trump before publication (they misread the email date - at 4 different outlets?) - and Mollie&#039;s commenter points out another example.
&lt;blockquote&gt;

Fiery but mostly peaceful
@MAGASoGood
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Sep 4
Replying to 
@MZHemingway
Corroboration is a concept that the Left didn&#039;t understand during the Kavanaugh smear campaign -- and they apparently still don&#039;t understand it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mollie said the same thing.<br />
No names, no sources.<br />
If you are going to be a whistleblower, you have to blow the whistle in public.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1301980171306754049" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1301980171306754049</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Reminder: it is literally impossible for anonymous sources to “confirm” a report, particularly when the original report is based solely on anonymous sources. The same people can repeat claims to multiple reporters, of course, particularly when engaged in a campaign operation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Glenn Greenwald at the Intercept talked about the news media that &#8220;confirmed&#8221; CNN&#8217;s false story about Wikileaks giving info to Trump before publication (they misread the email date &#8211; at 4 different outlets?) &#8211; and Mollie&#8217;s commenter points out another example.</p>
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<p>Fiery but mostly peaceful<br />
@MAGASoGood<br />
·<br />
Sep 4<br />
Replying to<br />
@MZHemingway<br />
Corroboration is a concept that the Left didn&#8217;t understand during the Kavanaugh smear campaign &#8212; and they apparently still don&#8217;t understand it.</p></blockquote>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513981</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;No matter how many sources make the same allegations to different reporters, the allegations and story aren&#039;t &quot;confirmed&quot; simply because the people told you, too. They&#039;re still allegations. You&#039;re simply alleging the same claims.&quot; - Attkisson

Puts me in mind of the sourcing in some scholarly publications, where the author cites 10 publications asserting some claim, and when you run them down, 9 of them were themselves citing the one original source (which may or may not have been correct).

It&#039;s also like the old joke about the personnel interviewer asking the applicant if he really has 10 years experience in the field, or just 1 year repeated 10 times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No matter how many sources make the same allegations to different reporters, the allegations and story aren&#8217;t &#8220;confirmed&#8221; simply because the people told you, too. They&#8217;re still allegations. You&#8217;re simply alleging the same claims.&#8221; &#8211; Attkisson</p>
<p>Puts me in mind of the sourcing in some scholarly publications, where the author cites 10 publications asserting some claim, and when you run them down, 9 of them were themselves citing the one original source (which may or may not have been correct).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also like the old joke about the personnel interviewer asking the applicant if he really has 10 years experience in the field, or just 1 year repeated 10 times.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513976</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Make Orwell Fiction Again.&quot;

Please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Make Orwell Fiction Again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 18:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And we have a winner!
&quot;Confirmation&quot; for the MSCM now means &quot;unproven allegation that is repeated by more than one (preferably anonymous)&#039;source&#039;&quot;.
(Orrr, the same---anonymous---&#039;source&#039; more than one time?...)
https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1302336096563613699

Yes, these guys are really, really on their game!!

Related:
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we have a winner!<br />
&#8220;Confirmation&#8221; for the MSCM now means &#8220;unproven allegation that is repeated by more than one (preferably anonymous)&#8217;source'&#8221;.<br />
(Orrr, the same&#8212;anonymous&#8212;&#8216;source&#8217; more than one time?&#8230;)<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1302336096563613699" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1302336096563613699</a></p>
<p>Yes, these guys are really, really on their game!!</p>
<p>Related:<br />
<a href="https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 18:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, it&#039;s a lot easier than that:
&quot;Hate speech is what I say it is....&quot;
(With apologies, of course, to Humpty Dumpty.)

And organizations like the UN or the OAS or the EU or [your university of choice] can (and will) doctor the language so that it sounds a lot more sophisticated and high brow.

(...though there is something to say for the original.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it&#8217;s a lot easier than that:<br />
&#8220;Hate speech is what I say it is&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
(With apologies, of course, to Humpty Dumpty.)</p>
<p>And organizations like the UN or the OAS or the EU or [your university of choice] can (and will) doctor the language so that it sounds a lot more sophisticated and high brow.</p>
<p>(&#8230;though there is something to say for the original.)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 17:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Portland has created a hot new dance to celebrate the 100th night of peaceful protest,  

The &quot;Wheeler&quot;   https://twitter.com/i/status/1302476966801539073

I&#039;m not sure if Neo will have any critique of the form or artistic expression.  it&#039;s a dance best done wearing nomex or other FR clothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Portland has created a hot new dance to celebrate the 100th night of peaceful protest,  </p>
<p>The &#8220;Wheeler&#8221;   <a href="https://twitter.com/i/status/1302476966801539073" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/i/status/1302476966801539073</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if Neo will have any critique of the form or artistic expression.  it&#8217;s a dance best done wearing nomex or other FR clothing.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This &quot;hate speech is criminal&quot; was entirely foreseeable when the first hate crime laws were introduced and passed. A crime is a crime, and, except for murder, thinking (premeditation) has nothing to do with  any criminal charge. 

But it is a &quot;hate crime&quot; for two straights to murder a homosexual; that is a special, hateful kind of murder! Wonder what happens to gays who murder straights...are they charged with committing a hate crime? We all know they are not.

The USA is being turned upside down. The black female Democrat lawyer and mayor of Washington revels in painting Black Lives Matter on public streets. Silence is violence unless one is violently and noisily a riot participant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;hate speech is criminal&#8221; was entirely foreseeable when the first hate crime laws were introduced and passed. A crime is a crime, and, except for murder, thinking (premeditation) has nothing to do with  any criminal charge. </p>
<p>But it is a &#8220;hate crime&#8221; for two straights to murder a homosexual; that is a special, hateful kind of murder! Wonder what happens to gays who murder straights&#8230;are they charged with committing a hate crime? We all know they are not.</p>
<p>The USA is being turned upside down. The black female Democrat lawyer and mayor of Washington revels in painting Black Lives Matter on public streets. Silence is violence unless one is violently and noisily a riot participant.</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrUselessNothing		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/05/silence-is-violence-leads-of-course-to-compelled-speech/#comment-2513926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ArtfldgrUselessNothing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 13:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bonus (anti-communist) Music:

&lt;b&gt;Songs of Forest brothers(Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania)&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9VJr-6fpnA

Some history if you dont know
Forest Brothers - Fight for the Baltics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5rQFp7FF9c

Like Anne Frank people mostly think wrongly about the history for both her, and forest peoples. 
[and refuse to learn the whole history - much to their detriment as things progress]

&lt;b&gt;Death of the Bear&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWvx_btKZ8

&lt;b&gt;Kremlin uni [Finnish Patriotic Song] [English and Finnish lyrics]&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1N0Sb8aH4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonus (anti-communist) Music:</p>
<p><b>Songs of Forest brothers(Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania)</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9VJr-6fpnA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9VJr-6fpnA</a></p>
<p>Some history if you dont know<br />
Forest Brothers &#8211; Fight for the Baltics<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5rQFp7FF9c" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5rQFp7FF9c</a></p>
<p>Like Anne Frank people mostly think wrongly about the history for both her, and forest peoples.<br />
[and refuse to learn the whole history &#8211; much to their detriment as things progress]</p>
<p><b>Death of the Bear</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWvx_btKZ8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWvx_btKZ8</a></p>
<p><b>Kremlin uni [Finnish Patriotic Song] [English and Finnish lyrics]</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1N0Sb8aH4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1N0Sb8aH4</a></p>
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		By: ArtfldgrUselessNothing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ArtfldgrUselessNothing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 13:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When der fuehrer says we is de master race
We heil heil right in der fueher&#039;s face
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#039;s face

When Herr Goebbels says we own the world and space
We heil heil right in Herr Goebbels&#039; face
When Herr Goring says they&#039;ll never bomb this place
We heil heil right in Herr Goring&#039;s face
Are we not he supermen Aryan pure supermen
Ja we are the supermen (super duper supermen)
Is this Nazi land so good
Would you leave it if you could
Ja this Nazi land is good
&lt;i&gt;We would leave it if we could&lt;/i&gt;
We bring the world to order
Heil Hitler&#039;s world to order
Everyone of foreign race
Will love der fuehrer&#039;s face
When we bring to the world this order

When der fuehrer says we is de master race
We heil heil right in der fueher&#039;s face
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#039;s face

When der fuehrer says we is de master race
We heil heil right in der fueher&#039;s face
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#039;s face

--Spike Jones and His City Slickers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When der fuehrer says we is de master race<br />
We heil heil right in der fueher&#8217;s face<br />
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace<br />
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#8217;s face</p>
<p>When Herr Goebbels says we own the world and space<br />
We heil heil right in Herr Goebbels&#8217; face<br />
When Herr Goring says they&#8217;ll never bomb this place<br />
We heil heil right in Herr Goring&#8217;s face<br />
Are we not he supermen Aryan pure supermen<br />
Ja we are the supermen (super duper supermen)<br />
Is this Nazi land so good<br />
Would you leave it if you could<br />
Ja this Nazi land is good<br />
<i>We would leave it if we could</i><br />
We bring the world to order<br />
Heil Hitler&#8217;s world to order<br />
Everyone of foreign race<br />
Will love der fuehrer&#8217;s face<br />
When we bring to the world this order</p>
<p>When der fuehrer says we is de master race<br />
We heil heil right in der fueher&#8217;s face<br />
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace<br />
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#8217;s face</p>
<p>When der fuehrer says we is de master race<br />
We heil heil right in der fueher&#8217;s face<br />
Not to love der fuehrer is a great disgrace<br />
So we heil heil right in der fuehrer&#8217;s face</p>
<p>&#8211;Spike Jones and His City Slickers<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I</a></p>
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