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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Goethe Schmoethe. The pithiest version of this comes from H. P. Lovecraft:

“Do not call up that which you cannot put down.”

-- The Case of Charles Dexter Ward]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goethe Schmoethe. The pithiest version of this comes from H. P. Lovecraft:</p>
<p>“Do not call up that which you cannot put down.”</p>
<p>&#8212; The Case of Charles Dexter Ward</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513695</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cicero:

I recall reading somewhere that those officers had been federalized for the occasion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cicero:</p>
<p>I recall reading somewhere that those officers had been federalized for the occasion.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curious how many invoke &quot;Federal&quot; in the reporting on the group of cops that killed Reinoehl.
But if you read for detail FBI and US Marshals located him but local cops shot him after he blazed away at them:
&quot;Thurston County Sheriff’s Lt. Ray Brady said four task force members fired their weapons, including two Pierce County Sheriff’s deputies, an officer from the Lakewood Police Department and an officer from the Washington State Department of Corrections.&quot; (AP)

The Federales were thus not involved when it mattered most.

The shooters remain nameless for their own protection from Antifa/BLM, I&#039;m sure. I commend them in their just actions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious how many invoke &#8220;Federal&#8221; in the reporting on the group of cops that killed Reinoehl.<br />
But if you read for detail FBI and US Marshals located him but local cops shot him after he blazed away at them:<br />
&#8220;Thurston County Sheriff’s Lt. Ray Brady said four task force members fired their weapons, including two Pierce County Sheriff’s deputies, an officer from the Lakewood Police Department and an officer from the Washington State Department of Corrections.&#8221; (AP)</p>
<p>The Federales were thus not involved when it mattered most.</p>
<p>The shooters remain nameless for their own protection from Antifa/BLM, I&#8217;m sure. I commend them in their just actions.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aesop Fan...&quot;In early golem tales the golem was usually a perfect servant, his only fault being a too literal or mechanical fulfillment of his master’s orders&quot;   This is of course a prescient description of the programmable computer, and if you look at some of the stuff that was being written at the dawn of the computer age (late 1940s thru mid 1950s), there was a lot of discussion of golems and similar folklore....in fact, the mathematician and cyberneticist Norbert Weiner wrote a book titled &quot;God and Golem, Inc&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesop Fan&#8230;&#8221;In early golem tales the golem was usually a perfect servant, his only fault being a too literal or mechanical fulfillment of his master’s orders&#8221;   This is of course a prescient description of the programmable computer, and if you look at some of the stuff that was being written at the dawn of the computer age (late 1940s thru mid 1950s), there was a lot of discussion of golems and similar folklore&#8230;.in fact, the mathematician and cyberneticist Norbert Weiner wrote a book titled &#8220;God and Golem, Inc&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513663</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 19:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indigo: Indeed.

She was not the first, of course, but certainly among the best.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/golem-Jewish-folklore
(paragraphing and emphasis added)
&lt;blockquote&gt;Golem, in Jewish folklore, an image endowed with life. The term is used in the Bible (Psalms 139:16) and in Talmudic literature to refer to an embryonic or incomplete substance. 

It assumed its present connotation in the Middle Ages, when many legends arose of wise men &lt;b&gt;who could bring effigies to life by means of a charm or of a combination of letters forming a sacred word or one of the names of God. The letters, written on paper, were placed in the golem’s mouth or affixed to its head. The letters’ removal deanimated the golem. &lt;/b&gt;
In early golem tales the golem was usually a perfect servant, his only fault being a too literal or mechanical fulfillment of his master’s orders. In the 16th century the golem acquired the character of protector of the Jews in time of persecution but &lt;b&gt;also had a frightening aspect. 

The most famous tale involves the golem created by the 16th-century rabbi Judah Löw ben Bezulel of Prague. It was the basis for Gustav Meyrink’s novel Der Golem (1915) and for a classic of German silent films (1920), which provided many details on the movement and behaviour of man-made monsters that were later adopted in the popular American horror films on the Frankenstein theme.
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Golems and their like show up in a lot of modern science fiction, most recognizably in Asimov&#039;s Robot stories, where they cause trouble by being too literal (and mechanical!), and also become frightening because of the damage they do &lt;em&gt;despite their good intentions.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indigo: Indeed.</p>
<p>She was not the first, of course, but certainly among the best.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/golem-Jewish-folklore" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.britannica.com/topic/golem-Jewish-folklore</a><br />
(paragraphing and emphasis added)</p>
<blockquote><p>Golem, in Jewish folklore, an image endowed with life. The term is used in the Bible (Psalms 139:16) and in Talmudic literature to refer to an embryonic or incomplete substance. </p>
<p>It assumed its present connotation in the Middle Ages, when many legends arose of wise men <b>who could bring effigies to life by means of a charm or of a combination of letters forming a sacred word or one of the names of God. The letters, written on paper, were placed in the golem’s mouth or affixed to its head. The letters’ removal deanimated the golem. </b><br />
In early golem tales the golem was usually a perfect servant, his only fault being a too literal or mechanical fulfillment of his master’s orders. In the 16th century the golem acquired the character of protector of the Jews in time of persecution but <b>also had a frightening aspect. </p>
<p>The most famous tale involves the golem created by the 16th-century rabbi Judah Löw ben Bezulel of Prague. It was the basis for Gustav Meyrink’s novel Der Golem (1915) and for a classic of German silent films (1920), which provided many details on the movement and behaviour of man-made monsters that were later adopted in the popular American horror films on the Frankenstein theme.<br />
</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Golems and their like show up in a lot of modern science fiction, most recognizably in Asimov&#8217;s Robot stories, where they cause trouble by being too literal (and mechanical!), and also become frightening because of the damage they do <em>despite their good intentions.</em></p>
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		By: Indigo Red		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Indigo Red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary Shelley warned against the making of monsters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Shelley warned against the making of monsters.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip Sells,

Stith is a surname - probably used as a first name in the case of the great Stith Thompson (for whatever reason) - compare the more famous Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Nelson, etc.

The end of the anecdote in Lucan is worth reading - the apprentice tells his audience that he still remembers the magic word to start it, but never learned the one to stop it... and conversational reflections on scaring listeners follow. 

The Wikipedia article on Paul Dukas&#039; 1897 tone poem does not discuss whether he imagined the production of more than two magical water bearers by splitting - is this a brilliant Disney studios touch?  It does mention two earlier cartoon versions which it would be interesting to pursue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Sells,</p>
<p>Stith is a surname &#8211; probably used as a first name in the case of the great Stith Thompson (for whatever reason) &#8211; compare the more famous Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Nelson, etc.</p>
<p>The end of the anecdote in Lucan is worth reading &#8211; the apprentice tells his audience that he still remembers the magic word to start it, but never learned the one to stop it&#8230; and conversational reflections on scaring listeners follow. </p>
<p>The Wikipedia article on Paul Dukas&#8217; 1897 tone poem does not discuss whether he imagined the production of more than two magical water bearers by splitting &#8211; is this a brilliant Disney studios touch?  It does mention two earlier cartoon versions which it would be interesting to pursue.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 14:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;so the gap between them and the politicos is simply not a large as it once was; likewise, the politicos no longer have any ideological reason to despise jocks, as they did heretofore.&quot;  

Just saw from Turley that the NFL commissioner has stated he no longer cares about the traditional NFL fan, and is going after &quot;a new audience&quot;; which I assume are all the woke lefties....good luck with that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so the gap between them and the politicos is simply not a large as it once was; likewise, the politicos no longer have any ideological reason to despise jocks, as they did heretofore.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Just saw from Turley that the NFL commissioner has stated he no longer cares about the traditional NFL fan, and is going after &#8220;a new audience&#8221;; which I assume are all the woke lefties&#8230;.good luck with that.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 13:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1301865920437121024]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1301865920437121024" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1301865920437121024</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/09/03/the-riots-and-the-sorcerers-apprentice/#comment-2513621</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And those lies and slanders keep on coming:
The latest &quot;hi-tech&quot;---if easily refutable---hit piece from Jeffrey Goldberg (in &quot;The Atlantic&quot;):
https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2020/09/04/the-morning-briefing-the-atlantic-barfs-up-2020s-worst-trump-hit-piece-yet-n886990

And Sean Davis follows up in his twitter feed (you have to scroll down....):
https://twitter.com/seanmdav

Ah, they&#039;re thinking: If WE can only get the military to support our noble efforts... to destroy the country.... Banana Republic, indeed!

File under: Going far beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And those lies and slanders keep on coming:<br />
The latest &#8220;hi-tech&#8221;&#8212;if easily refutable&#8212;hit piece from Jeffrey Goldberg (in &#8220;The Atlantic&#8221;):<br />
<a href="https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2020/09/04/the-morning-briefing-the-atlantic-barfs-up-2020s-worst-trump-hit-piece-yet-n886990" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2020/09/04/the-morning-briefing-the-atlantic-barfs-up-2020s-worst-trump-hit-piece-yet-n886990</a></p>
<p>And Sean Davis follows up in his twitter feed (you have to scroll down&#8230;.):<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/seanmdav" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/seanmdav</a></p>
<p>Ah, they&#8217;re thinking: If WE can only get the military to support our noble efforts&#8230; to destroy the country&#8230;. Banana Republic, indeed!</p>
<p>File under: Going far beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel&#8230;.</p>
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