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		By: Kate		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris J, I agree, with the possible exception of the rifle and its origin.  His defense attorneys are saying the rifle did not cross state lines.  I infer that it was provided by a local defense or &quot;militia&quot; unit, or maybe by a property owner.  He clearly knew how to use it; I&#039;m guessing he hunts.

Can he serve in the military, assuming these charges are withdrawn or he is acquitted?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris J, I agree, with the possible exception of the rifle and its origin.  His defense attorneys are saying the rifle did not cross state lines.  I infer that it was provided by a local defense or &#8220;militia&#8221; unit, or maybe by a property owner.  He clearly knew how to use it; I&#8217;m guessing he hunts.</p>
<p>Can he serve in the military, assuming these charges are withdrawn or he is acquitted?</p>
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		By: Chris J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;m late to comment on this post but I felt the need to express an opinion here which has, in other forums, met with much backlash. First, not having been there, I don&#039;t know the whole story of what took place between Rittenhouse and those he shot. The video analysis I have seen makes a strong case for self defense.  However, what gets lost on the &quot;Kyle is a hero&quot; crowd is this: he will certainly be convicted of illegal possession of a firearm (18 is the minimum age for open carry in WI) and his parent(s) face liability for his actions since he is too young to own a firearm in his state of residence (IL requires a firearm owners ID to purchase guns and you have to be 21 to obtain a FOID).

What&#039;s more, Rittenhouse, in my opinion, is a victim of too much propaganda about the role of firearms in law enforcement and the military and too little training with respect to the responsible use of firearms to protect one&#039;s own life and property.  As a veteran, a firearm owner and concealed carry permit holder I can tell you that there is a significant difference between these three (military, law enforcement, citizen) categories and the use and handling of firearms requires a very different mindset by each.  

I hope Kyle gets a fair trial. If he does, I am guessing the murder charges will not stand. However, even if he gets off scot-free, the following is true: his apparent aspirations for a career in law enforcement are pretty much done; social media will see to him being hounded out of &quot;polite society&quot; (as if such a concept even exists or matters any longer); but most importantly, he will be dealing with the emotional toll of that night for the rest of his life.  

No matter where I mention this last point, it is very clear to me that most people do not comprehend how traumatic it is to take a life. It is life changing and, depending on how one deals with it, can destroy who you were as a person prior to that. Whatever happens to young Kyle from here on, he will have this on his conscience for the rest of his life.  The &quot;hero narrative&quot; that I have seen from many refuses to acknowledge this fact. i suspect this is due to the lack of experience with trauma of this magnitude and its consequences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to comment on this post but I felt the need to express an opinion here which has, in other forums, met with much backlash. First, not having been there, I don&#8217;t know the whole story of what took place between Rittenhouse and those he shot. The video analysis I have seen makes a strong case for self defense.  However, what gets lost on the &#8220;Kyle is a hero&#8221; crowd is this: he will certainly be convicted of illegal possession of a firearm (18 is the minimum age for open carry in WI) and his parent(s) face liability for his actions since he is too young to own a firearm in his state of residence (IL requires a firearm owners ID to purchase guns and you have to be 21 to obtain a FOID).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, Rittenhouse, in my opinion, is a victim of too much propaganda about the role of firearms in law enforcement and the military and too little training with respect to the responsible use of firearms to protect one&#8217;s own life and property.  As a veteran, a firearm owner and concealed carry permit holder I can tell you that there is a significant difference between these three (military, law enforcement, citizen) categories and the use and handling of firearms requires a very different mindset by each.  </p>
<p>I hope Kyle gets a fair trial. If he does, I am guessing the murder charges will not stand. However, even if he gets off scot-free, the following is true: his apparent aspirations for a career in law enforcement are pretty much done; social media will see to him being hounded out of &#8220;polite society&#8221; (as if such a concept even exists or matters any longer); but most importantly, he will be dealing with the emotional toll of that night for the rest of his life.  </p>
<p>No matter where I mention this last point, it is very clear to me that most people do not comprehend how traumatic it is to take a life. It is life changing and, depending on how one deals with it, can destroy who you were as a person prior to that. Whatever happens to young Kyle from here on, he will have this on his conscience for the rest of his life.  The &#8220;hero narrative&#8221; that I have seen from many refuses to acknowledge this fact. i suspect this is due to the lack of experience with trauma of this magnitude and its consequences.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s started.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/victims-of-shooting-during-kenosha-protest-engaged-gunman/ar-BB18tCcr?li=BBnb7Kz]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s started.<br />
<a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/victims-of-shooting-during-kenosha-protest-engaged-gunman/ar-BB18tCcr?li=BBnb7Kz" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/victims-of-shooting-during-kenosha-protest-engaged-gunman/ar-BB18tCcr?li=BBnb7Kz</a></p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 05:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carl Benjamin, a classical liberal vblogger in the UK (as Sargon of Akkad), does a lengthy breakdown and defense of the right to self-defense in the Rittenhouse case using video. He defiantly defends against carping, hectoring, moral relativists who demand men submit to the mob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpabAwUk6Z4

Hell no, we ain’t gonna go! This is stirring stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Benjamin, a classical liberal vblogger in the UK (as Sargon of Akkad), does a lengthy breakdown and defense of the right to self-defense in the Rittenhouse case using video. He defiantly defends against carping, hectoring, moral relativists who demand men submit to the mob.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpabAwUk6Z4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpabAwUk6Z4</a></p>
<p>Hell no, we ain’t gonna go! This is stirring stuff.</p>
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		By: Oliver T.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oliver T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OldTexan- It seems that Rittenhouse first shot a crazy who was screaming at him, chasing him, and threw something at him just before he was shot.
I think you can see videos from here: https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/08/26/905992

After that he was being chased and shot the other two scumbags.
These three nut-jobs being white doesn&#039;t fit the narrative; I don&#039;t see the feral blacks rioting over these palefaces.

Shame on the &quot;public servants&quot; who don&#039;t keep order! The blood and financial wreckage are on their hands!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldTexan- It seems that Rittenhouse first shot a crazy who was screaming at him, chasing him, and threw something at him just before he was shot.<br />
I think you can see videos from here: <a href="https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/08/26/905992" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/08/26/905992</a></p>
<p>After that he was being chased and shot the other two scumbags.<br />
These three nut-jobs being white doesn&#8217;t fit the narrative; I don&#8217;t see the feral blacks rioting over these palefaces.</p>
<p>Shame on the &#8220;public servants&#8221; who don&#8217;t keep order! The blood and financial wreckage are on their hands!</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrUselessNothing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So the left calculates that it’s win/win/win for them – except for the possibility of backlash against the riots, which they don’t seem to have originally factored in. 

Communists from Lenin onward have always been surprised no one wanted to join their revolution.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the left calculates that it’s win/win/win for them – except for the possibility of backlash against the riots, which they don’t seem to have originally factored in. </p>
<p>Communists from Lenin onward have always been surprised no one wanted to join their revolution&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrUselessNothing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A gold ring to the politician who can craft a law to make what the news is doing illegal without actually setting up a division of truth...  


Perhaps sue them for fraud?

You paid for news (truth), news is not false (fiction),  providing falsehood is a fraud in terms of what one was being told one was being offered (a good of lesser value - actually value has nothing to do with it, its a good that was misrepresented as something else).
 

&lt;i&gt;Fraud is a broad term that refers to acts intended to swindle someone. ... Fraud always includes a false statement, misrepresentation or deceitful conduct. The purpose is to gain something of value, usually money, by misleading or deceiving someone into believing something that the perpetrator knows to be false.&lt;/i&gt; - FindLaw

For those that didn&#039;t outright pay... 
Time is money
(as that is what they convert into advertising revenue - they convert your time into their money)... 
and a class action suit would be interesting]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gold ring to the politician who can craft a law to make what the news is doing illegal without actually setting up a division of truth&#8230;  </p>
<p>Perhaps sue them for fraud?</p>
<p>You paid for news (truth), news is not false (fiction),  providing falsehood is a fraud in terms of what one was being told one was being offered (a good of lesser value &#8211; actually value has nothing to do with it, its a good that was misrepresented as something else).</p>
<p><i>Fraud is a broad term that refers to acts intended to swindle someone. &#8230; Fraud always includes a false statement, misrepresentation or deceitful conduct. The purpose is to gain something of value, usually money, by misleading or deceiving someone into believing something that the perpetrator knows to be false.</i> &#8211; FindLaw</p>
<p>For those that didn&#8217;t outright pay&#8230;<br />
Time is money<br />
(as that is what they convert into advertising revenue &#8211; they convert your time into their money)&#8230;<br />
and a class action suit would be interesting</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 01:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JimNorCal:

You can see that but Montage can only see the beach from the sidewalk or from his magic bicycle.  

Montage can see the violent extremists on both sides although he has to strain to see those who aren&#039;t right wing.  His vision is a curious thing.

The White Supremacists seem to be outnumbered by hate crime hoaxers for some reason.  Another curiosity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimNorCal:</p>
<p>You can see that but Montage can only see the beach from the sidewalk or from his magic bicycle.  </p>
<p>Montage can see the violent extremists on both sides although he has to strain to see those who aren&#8217;t right wing.  His vision is a curious thing.</p>
<p>The White Supremacists seem to be outnumbered by hate crime hoaxers for some reason.  Another curiosity.</p>
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		By: Geofrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geofrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;So the question becomes, how can a society function–what sort of mental condition are people in–when the MSM and almost all of the other sources of information are presenting/pumping what are obviously lies into the society, are presenting as genuine what many people know to be a deliberately constructed and false “reality”?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Snow on Pine 

Obviously it&#039;s not sustainable. America will serve &quot;either one master or the other&quot;. 

Yes, we will either participate in the LIES and live on our knees or... decide there are worse things than death. 

History repeatedly demonstrates that, the greater the evil, the greater the sacrifice good must make to defeat it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So the question becomes, how can a society function–what sort of mental condition are people in–when the MSM and almost all of the other sources of information are presenting/pumping what are obviously lies into the society, are presenting as genuine what many people know to be a deliberately constructed and false “reality”?&#8221;</i> Snow on Pine </p>
<p>Obviously it&#8217;s not sustainable. America will serve &#8220;either one master or the other&#8221;. </p>
<p>Yes, we will either participate in the LIES and live on our knees or&#8230; decide there are worse things than death. </p>
<p>History repeatedly demonstrates that, the greater the evil, the greater the sacrifice good must make to defeat it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 00:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;In not showing the evidence that would tend to support a self-defense argument for Rittenhouse ...&quot;

Yes, the agenda for some time has been &quot;white supremacist terrorists&quot;. MSM has used every trick in their book to push this agenda. There are hordes of lefties who quote links to the vast numbers of these &quot;W/S Terror&quot; guys ... who somehow haven&#039;t managed to burn down any cities so far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In not showing the evidence that would tend to support a self-defense argument for Rittenhouse &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the agenda for some time has been &#8220;white supremacist terrorists&#8221;. MSM has used every trick in their book to push this agenda. There are hordes of lefties who quote links to the vast numbers of these &#8220;W/S Terror&#8221; guys &#8230; who somehow haven&#8217;t managed to burn down any cities so far.</p>
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