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		By: neo		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L:

If you look at the George Floyd transcript, I think it&#039;s a good case for &quot;resisting arrest without violence.&quot;  He wouldn&#039;t obey instructions about his hands at first.  He kept falling down, wouldn&#039;t get in the squad car, once he was in the car he wouldn&#039;t stay in the car, etc..  He never hit the police as far as I can recall, or was violent to them.  But he was a big big guy and it made it almost impossible for them to get him in the car to take him away.  In fact, the position the police finally put him in - on the ground, with Chauvin&#039;s neck on his neck or shoulder, was in order to keep him under control until the ambulance could come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L:</p>
<p>If you look at the George Floyd transcript, I think it&#8217;s a good case for &#8220;resisting arrest without violence.&#8221;  He wouldn&#8217;t obey instructions about his hands at first.  He kept falling down, wouldn&#8217;t get in the squad car, once he was in the car he wouldn&#8217;t stay in the car, etc..  He never hit the police as far as I can recall, or was violent to them.  But he was a big big guy and it made it almost impossible for them to get him in the car to take him away.  In fact, the position the police finally put him in &#8211; on the ground, with Chauvin&#8217;s neck on his neck or shoulder, was in order to keep him under control until the ambulance could come.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.: &quot; Resisting arrest ought to be a five to ten year sentence.&quot; 
Many years ago I was an alternate juror and the defendant was charged with 3 or 4 offenses, only one of which I remember, namely &quot;resisting arrest without violence&quot;. At the time I thought &quot;that is really a BS charge, how do you resist arrest without violence?  How are you resisting?&quot;  But since I was the alternate I was excused and never had to deliberate with the other jurors about just what that meant. I later learned he had been convicted on all counts. If I had been an active juror in the deliberation room I might have resisted conviction on that one charge.

Given the  comments made here and elsewhere, and the lack of compliance with police directives we have been seeing and discussing, I might have to rethink my attitude from back then. But does anyone here have an idea of just what such a charge might mean, and why my attitude may have been wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.: &#8221; Resisting arrest ought to be a five to ten year sentence.&#8221;<br />
Many years ago I was an alternate juror and the defendant was charged with 3 or 4 offenses, only one of which I remember, namely &#8220;resisting arrest without violence&#8221;. At the time I thought &#8220;that is really a BS charge, how do you resist arrest without violence?  How are you resisting?&#8221;  But since I was the alternate I was excused and never had to deliberate with the other jurors about just what that meant. I later learned he had been convicted on all counts. If I had been an active juror in the deliberation room I might have resisted conviction on that one charge.</p>
<p>Given the  comments made here and elsewhere, and the lack of compliance with police directives we have been seeing and discussing, I might have to rethink my attitude from back then. But does anyone here have an idea of just what such a charge might mean, and why my attitude may have been wrong?</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimmy: &quot;And, I suspect, a similar number or greater number of unarmed white men were killed.&quot;

Yep, the number I&#039;ve seen from   2019 is 19.  

In 2019 the number of police that died from felonious acts by perps was 48.  
More detail on the police killings here: https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty

Resisting arrest ought to be a five to ten year sentence.  Assaulting a cop should be an automatic 15 to 25. Killing a policeman should be an automatic death sentence with only one appeal allowed.  Time to start protecting our police.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy: &#8220;And, I suspect, a similar number or greater number of unarmed white men were killed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, the number I&#8217;ve seen from   2019 is 19.  </p>
<p>In 2019 the number of police that died from felonious acts by perps was 48.<br />
More detail on the police killings here: <a href="https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty</a></p>
<p>Resisting arrest ought to be a five to ten year sentence.  Assaulting a cop should be an automatic 15 to 25. Killing a policeman should be an automatic death sentence with only one appeal allowed.  Time to start protecting our police.</p>
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		By: M Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sadly, the current narrative is focused on the police. It&#039;s so unserious.  It brings home (and soon might in a horrible way) how memes take hold and get out of control.  The past couple of centuries have numerous examples.

I used to think that American collective common sense, when push came to shove, would rule the day.  But with so many folks looking to the Democrat Party as their savior, I&#039;m still hopeful but I have my doubts.

Those famous words come to mind - &quot;. . . if you can keep it&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, the current narrative is focused on the police. It&#8217;s so unserious.  It brings home (and soon might in a horrible way) how memes take hold and get out of control.  The past couple of centuries have numerous examples.</p>
<p>I used to think that American collective common sense, when push came to shove, would rule the day.  But with so many folks looking to the Democrat Party as their savior, I&#8217;m still hopeful but I have my doubts.</p>
<p>Those famous words come to mind &#8211; &#8220;. . . if you can keep it&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Interestingly, there were over ten million arrests made in 2019. During that time only 13 unarmed black men were killed during arrests. &lt;/i&gt;

And, I suspect, a similar number or greater number of unarmed white men were killed. The studies I&#039;ve read about suggest that per encounter, the numbers are similar (in fact a bit higher for whites).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Interestingly, there were over ten million arrests made in 2019. During that time only 13 unarmed black men were killed during arrests. </i></p>
<p>And, I suspect, a similar number or greater number of unarmed white men were killed. The studies I&#8217;ve read about suggest that per encounter, the numbers are similar (in fact a bit higher for whites).</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a policeman trying to arrest a suspect with a warrant for his arrest. He refuses to follow orders. You tussle with him and then taze him.  All to no avail.  You draw your gun and tell him to stop. He doesn&#039;t stop but attempts to get in his vehicle, which  contains three children.  What do you do?  Is he reaching for a gun or knife in his car? Is he going to try to drive away? If you let him drive away with the three children will they be safe, especially if you follow and he engages in high speeds in an attempt to evade you?  If you let him go, will he be easier to arrest tomorrow? Or will he be armed to the teeth and using his children as hostages? 

These and more questions arise when police try to arrest a suspect who resists.  The answers must be arrived at in seconds. Training helps, but mistakes will be made. Police are humans who want to stay alive and unharmed as much as anyone.  We give them a lot of authority because they are dealing with the worst of society, doing a job most of us will not do.

Interestingly, there were over ten million arrests made in 2019. During that time only 13 unarmed black men were killed during arrests. There were, no doubt, many more cases where suspects resisted arrest, but non-lethal procedures allowed a successful outcome. Considering the number of arrests, the number of deaths of unarmed black suspects is amazingly small.  It certainly does not show racial bias or an attempted holocaust against black perpetrators.  

Resisting arrest is a crime. When a suspect fails to follow orders it can lead to all kinds of problems for both the cop and the suspect. The worst outcome is death or permanent injury. IMO, our  leaders, particularly black leaders, should be making statements about not resisting arrest.  Like public service announcements about wearing masks and social distancing, statements from leaders about not resisting arrest might change the  way  these tragic encounters go down. It also might are change the way these encounters are viewed by the public at large.  Well, it&#039;s a thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a policeman trying to arrest a suspect with a warrant for his arrest. He refuses to follow orders. You tussle with him and then taze him.  All to no avail.  You draw your gun and tell him to stop. He doesn&#8217;t stop but attempts to get in his vehicle, which  contains three children.  What do you do?  Is he reaching for a gun or knife in his car? Is he going to try to drive away? If you let him drive away with the three children will they be safe, especially if you follow and he engages in high speeds in an attempt to evade you?  If you let him go, will he be easier to arrest tomorrow? Or will he be armed to the teeth and using his children as hostages? </p>
<p>These and more questions arise when police try to arrest a suspect who resists.  The answers must be arrived at in seconds. Training helps, but mistakes will be made. Police are humans who want to stay alive and unharmed as much as anyone.  We give them a lot of authority because they are dealing with the worst of society, doing a job most of us will not do.</p>
<p>Interestingly, there were over ten million arrests made in 2019. During that time only 13 unarmed black men were killed during arrests. There were, no doubt, many more cases where suspects resisted arrest, but non-lethal procedures allowed a successful outcome. Considering the number of arrests, the number of deaths of unarmed black suspects is amazingly small.  It certainly does not show racial bias or an attempted holocaust against black perpetrators.  </p>
<p>Resisting arrest is a crime. When a suspect fails to follow orders it can lead to all kinds of problems for both the cop and the suspect. The worst outcome is death or permanent injury. IMO, our  leaders, particularly black leaders, should be making statements about not resisting arrest.  Like public service announcements about wearing masks and social distancing, statements from leaders about not resisting arrest might change the  way  these tragic encounters go down. It also might are change the way these encounters are viewed by the public at large.  Well, it&#8217;s a thought.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Yeah, but these juries are made up of stupid people.&lt;/i&gt;

Even so, police seem to get fair treatment most of the time. The cops in the Eric Garner and Michael Brown cases were acquitted, George Zimmerman was acquitted, despite the politics (or maybe because of the politics--backlash). Of course that doesn&#039;t stop the left from keeping Garner, Brown, Martin et al in their pantheon of &quot;victims,&quot; but juries seem to do the right thing in these cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeah, but these juries are made up of stupid people.</i></p>
<p>Even so, police seem to get fair treatment most of the time. The cops in the Eric Garner and Michael Brown cases were acquitted, George Zimmerman was acquitted, despite the politics (or maybe because of the politics&#8211;backlash). Of course that doesn&#8217;t stop the left from keeping Garner, Brown, Martin et al in their pantheon of &#8220;victims,&#8221; but juries seem to do the right thing in these cases.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you noticed that when these black criminals are shot they suddenly become saints? Did you see the funeral for saint George Floyd?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed that when these black criminals are shot they suddenly become saints? Did you see the funeral for saint George Floyd?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 06:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They lie.
They lie all the time.
They&#039;ve been lying (like this) for most of the past 15 years.

The default position is that they&#039;re telling you lies. And then telling other lies to back up the original ones.
You have to wait a bit to sort it all out. And look at other sources of information.
But even then...

(In the following trilogy, Andrew McCarthy shows how it&#039;s done, at least by professionals:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/kevin-clinesmith-guilty-plea-russia-probe-lying-about-lying/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmith-guilty-plea-using-a-digraph-to-conceal-a-massive-deception-of-the-court/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmiths-guilty-plea-the-perfect-snapshot-of-crossfire-hurricane-duplicity/ )

And speaking of lies (and justice).... Mazel Tov to Alan Dershowitz on the 69th anniversary of his Bar Mitzvah. &quot;Until 120&quot;, good sir!! (Or, perhaps, the variant: &quot;Until 100---as if you were still 20&quot;!)
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16421/alan-dershowitz-pursue-justice]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They lie.<br />
They lie all the time.<br />
They&#8217;ve been lying (like this) for most of the past 15 years.</p>
<p>The default position is that they&#8217;re telling you lies. And then telling other lies to back up the original ones.<br />
You have to wait a bit to sort it all out. And look at other sources of information.<br />
But even then&#8230;</p>
<p>(In the following trilogy, Andrew McCarthy shows how it&#8217;s done, at least by professionals:<br />
<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/kevin-clinesmith-guilty-plea-russia-probe-lying-about-lying/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/kevin-clinesmith-guilty-plea-russia-probe-lying-about-lying/</a><br />
<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmith-guilty-plea-using-a-digraph-to-conceal-a-massive-deception-of-the-court/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmith-guilty-plea-using-a-digraph-to-conceal-a-massive-deception-of-the-court/</a><br />
<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmiths-guilty-plea-the-perfect-snapshot-of-crossfire-hurricane-duplicity/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmiths-guilty-plea-the-perfect-snapshot-of-crossfire-hurricane-duplicity/</a> )</p>
<p>And speaking of lies (and justice)&#8230;. Mazel Tov to Alan Dershowitz on the 69th anniversary of his Bar Mitzvah. &#8220;Until 120&#8221;, good sir!! (Or, perhaps, the variant: &#8220;Until 100&#8212;as if you were still 20&#8221;!)<br />
<a href="https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16421/alan-dershowitz-pursue-justice" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16421/alan-dershowitz-pursue-justice</a></p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 05:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Knives are extremely dangerous at close encounters A cut at the arteries or several stabs at the gut is instant game over but of course the democrats will pretend knives are harmless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knives are extremely dangerous at close encounters A cut at the arteries or several stabs at the gut is instant game over but of course the democrats will pretend knives are harmless.</p>
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