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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 07:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if the Rittenhouse boy&#039;s motivation was something like what drew the Minutemen to Lexington. That quote from the little interview of him is interesting, as he speaks of &quot;&#039;our&#039; job&quot; being thus-and-so. He seems to see himself as part of a larger organization or community, not apparently a lone wolf type. The Trib article delves into that question a little bit, going into his connections to police-type cadet training activities, for example. 

I find it interesting and I&#039;m not prepared at this point to discount what the Trib says merely because it presumably doesn&#039;t like what such details imply about the youth&#039;s political views, such as they are at this point in his life. It looks to me like worthwhile investigative reporting, though I can accept that there are certainly journalists out there who would salivate at the prospect of finding a photo of him or one of his relatives in a brown shirt or something like that. But I&#039;m not sure that the particular reporter who wrote the article linking the quick interview to which Neo referred is in that category right off the bat. But if we&#039;re thinking of this as a brewing war situation, it does bring up the question: why do people march off to war? Everyone has his own reasons in that moment. That&#039;s why I find the boy&#039;s story of interest, I suppose.

Oh, also thanks to Isolden and Rufus for the local color angle. I love local color.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Rittenhouse boy&#8217;s motivation was something like what drew the Minutemen to Lexington. That quote from the little interview of him is interesting, as he speaks of &#8220;&#8216;our&#8217; job&#8221; being thus-and-so. He seems to see himself as part of a larger organization or community, not apparently a lone wolf type. The Trib article delves into that question a little bit, going into his connections to police-type cadet training activities, for example. </p>
<p>I find it interesting and I&#8217;m not prepared at this point to discount what the Trib says merely because it presumably doesn&#8217;t like what such details imply about the youth&#8217;s political views, such as they are at this point in his life. It looks to me like worthwhile investigative reporting, though I can accept that there are certainly journalists out there who would salivate at the prospect of finding a photo of him or one of his relatives in a brown shirt or something like that. But I&#8217;m not sure that the particular reporter who wrote the article linking the quick interview to which Neo referred is in that category right off the bat. But if we&#8217;re thinking of this as a brewing war situation, it does bring up the question: why do people march off to war? Everyone has his own reasons in that moment. That&#8217;s why I find the boy&#8217;s story of interest, I suppose.</p>
<p>Oh, also thanks to Isolden and Rufus for the local color angle. I love local color.</p>
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		By: Faith2014		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Faith2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evidently gofundme and fundly have removed fundraising efforts for his legal defense.  Infuriating.  I emailed the GOA to see if they had any info on donations.  

I&#039;m enraged.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently gofundme and fundly have removed fundraising efforts for his legal defense.  Infuriating.  I emailed the GOA to see if they had any info on donations.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m enraged.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 23:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T J:

Those have been Antifa&#039;s goals for a long, long time.  I don&#039;t know how widely known it is, but I&#039;ve certainly written about it on this blog several times.  The riots are part BLM and part Antifa, and both have similar goals (see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/06/24/trained-marxists/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; about BLM).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T J:</p>
<p>Those have been Antifa&#8217;s goals for a long, long time.  I don&#8217;t know how widely known it is, but I&#8217;ve certainly written about it on this blog several times.  The riots are part BLM and part Antifa, and both have similar goals (see <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/06/24/trained-marxists/">this</a> about BLM).</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trevor Noah has his clairvoyant powers and a sense of preexisting indignation upon which to base his opinions.

The rest of the world has video of the events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor Noah has his clairvoyant powers and a sense of preexisting indignation upon which to base his opinions.</p>
<p>The rest of the world has video of the events.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe Rittenhouse was defending himself? But he was clearly courting danger. He wasn’t a business owner standing out to protect a business he had poured his life into. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, let Grandpa defend his own business if the police cannot or will not show up.

And if he tries to reason with the rioters and they kill him, well so what ... that is none of our business. That&#039;s what we have law enforcement for! To clear the bodies of the innocent dead away!

You are not fit to be, or to live among, free men Montage. But, you already knew that, didn&#039;t you ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe Rittenhouse was defending himself? But he was clearly courting danger. He wasn’t a business owner standing out to protect a business he had poured his life into. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, let Grandpa defend his own business if the police cannot or will not show up.</p>
<p>And if he tries to reason with the rioters and they kill him, well so what &#8230; that is none of our business. That&#8217;s what we have law enforcement for! To clear the bodies of the innocent dead away!</p>
<p>You are not fit to be, or to live among, free men Montage. But, you already knew that, didn&#8217;t you &#8230;</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it interesting, how the biographies begin to stack up?  All of the people who are the prime motivation for the riots, and many of the people who are are victims of consequential violence - like the Rittenhouse Three - or those who have been arrested for violence in Seattle, had their pictures taken, and then have been summarily released on their own notable recognizance?

Violent felons, pedophiles, sexual predators, anarchists, members of radical revolutionary groups.  And no commentary from the media on the common thread binding all of this destruction together.  They are criminals, all.  And they represent just the foot soldiers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting, how the biographies begin to stack up?  All of the people who are the prime motivation for the riots, and many of the people who are are victims of consequential violence &#8211; like the Rittenhouse Three &#8211; or those who have been arrested for violence in Seattle, had their pictures taken, and then have been summarily released on their own notable recognizance?</p>
<p>Violent felons, pedophiles, sexual predators, anarchists, members of radical revolutionary groups.  And no commentary from the media on the common thread binding all of this destruction together.  They are criminals, all.  And they represent just the foot soldiers.</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ami Horowitz has embedded with rioters in Kenosha. And in a lengthy interview on Prager explains that his eye-witness sources make a good case for self-defense. 

I cannot recite his account, however. 

Ami Horowitz has interviewed hundreds of rioters from Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, and New York City riots as well.

This provoked Prager to ask if his own generalisations were false: most looters are black, but most rioters are young and white. Ami said this impression was true.

But Ami Horowitz next observations were disturbing. All of the hundreds of rioters shared the same motives and rationalisations: almost no one mentioned dead black victims. They were irrelevant. The all blamed the west, especially the US, for creating all of the world’s ills. And only by destroying the USA could this be changed. Destruction of the US, sedition and Revolution is their aim.

He did report that in Kenosha, his gang of rioters discussed attacking a hospital that sheltered the shooter. But contradictory and uncertain target intelligence shot down their planning.

If this interview gets posted online somewhere, listen. I’ve not heard anything so firsthand, nor so riveting. And disturbing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ami Horowitz has embedded with rioters in Kenosha. And in a lengthy interview on Prager explains that his eye-witness sources make a good case for self-defense. </p>
<p>I cannot recite his account, however. </p>
<p>Ami Horowitz has interviewed hundreds of rioters from Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, and New York City riots as well.</p>
<p>This provoked Prager to ask if his own generalisations were false: most looters are black, but most rioters are young and white. Ami said this impression was true.</p>
<p>But Ami Horowitz next observations were disturbing. All of the hundreds of rioters shared the same motives and rationalisations: almost no one mentioned dead black victims. They were irrelevant. The all blamed the west, especially the US, for creating all of the world’s ills. And only by destroying the USA could this be changed. Destruction of the US, sedition and Revolution is their aim.</p>
<p>He did report that in Kenosha, his gang of rioters discussed attacking a hospital that sheltered the shooter. But contradictory and uncertain target intelligence shot down their planning.</p>
<p>If this interview gets posted online somewhere, listen. I’ve not heard anything so firsthand, nor so riveting. And disturbing.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read a tweet indicating that Lin Wood, the attorney who represents Nick Sandmann, has offered to defend Rittenhouse &lt;i&gt;pro bono&lt;/i&gt;.  Is he a criminal defense lawyer?  It seems to me that Rittenhouse can legitimately claim self-defense in these shootings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a tweet indicating that Lin Wood, the attorney who represents Nick Sandmann, has offered to defend Rittenhouse <i>pro bono</i>.  Is he a criminal defense lawyer?  It seems to me that Rittenhouse can legitimately claim self-defense in these shootings.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now it&#039;s Montage and Trevor Noah reading minds. Such insight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it&#8217;s Montage and Trevor Noah reading minds. Such insight.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Montage:

Ah - Trevor Noah, another great mind-reader.

He hasn&#039;t a clue about what motivated Rittenhouse or anyone else - except perhaps for himself.  And although Noah is entitled to his opinion, why on earth would I subscribe to it? It&#039;s not the least bit persuasive to me - and it&#039;s illogical, because if Rittenhouse wanted to shoot someone it&#039;s awfully strange that he would wait till he was attacked and being chased to do so. 

I have my own opinion, which I&#039;ve already expressed quite fully, so I have no need to restate it.

Oh, and good old &quot;unarmed&quot; Blake &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.fox6now.com/news/doj-identifies-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-says-knife-was-recovered-from-floorboard&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;was apparently reaching for the knife&lt;/a&gt; under his driver&#039;s side floorboard when he was shot.  This was after being unsuccessfully tased and unsuccessfully wrestled with by two officers, who failed to restrain him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montage:</p>
<p>Ah &#8211; Trevor Noah, another great mind-reader.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t a clue about what motivated Rittenhouse or anyone else &#8211; except perhaps for himself.  And although Noah is entitled to his opinion, why on earth would I subscribe to it? It&#8217;s not the least bit persuasive to me &#8211; and it&#8217;s illogical, because if Rittenhouse wanted to shoot someone it&#8217;s awfully strange that he would wait till he was attacked and being chased to do so. </p>
<p>I have my own opinion, which I&#8217;ve already expressed quite fully, so I have no need to restate it.</p>
<p>Oh, and good old &#8220;unarmed&#8221; Blake <a href="https://www.fox6now.com/news/doj-identifies-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-says-knife-was-recovered-from-floorboard" rel="nofollow ugc">was apparently reaching for the knife</a> under his driver&#8217;s side floorboard when he was shot.  This was after being unsuccessfully tased and unsuccessfully wrestled with by two officers, who failed to restrain him.</p>
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