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		By: T J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“The Outsiders,” a program on Skynews Australia, has an excellent video correction to the Charlottesville hoax; see 2 minutes to 5+ minutes, here, putting the record straight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQlgoSbF60]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Outsiders,” a program on Skynews Australia, has an excellent video correction to the Charlottesville hoax; see 2 minutes to 5+ minutes, here, putting the record straight:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQlgoSbF60" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQlgoSbF60</a></p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OOOOkay.  One of my relations...with whom I have decided not to discuss politics...just wished Howard Zinn a happy birthday.

I&#039;ve given up on the distracted and misinformed excuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOOkay.  One of my relations&#8230;with whom I have decided not to discuss politics&#8230;just wished Howard Zinn a happy birthday.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given up on the distracted and misinformed excuse.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As has been the case for several years now, President Trump and his Administration are being attacked from all sides.

The latest casualty?  

Long serving Kelly Ann Conway, who has just announced that she is leaving her White House position as Senior Counselor to the President at the end of this month, to “spend more time with my family.”

This phrase is usually just an excuse--usually a fiction to cover up some other reason but, in this case, it looks like it may well be true.

First, there is her husband George, who for years—despite Kelly Anne&#039;s very prominent position in the Trump Administration and the White House--has been a very public and vocal critic of the President.  Ol&#039; porcine George is also stepping down from his position as one of the co-founders of the anti-Trump “Lincoln Project.” 

This just as the news has surfaced that John Weaver, another of that organization&#039;s co-founders, has just reportedly registered with the DOJ as a Foreign Agent, and will lobby Congress for Tenam Corp, a subsidiary of Russatom, the Russian State owned energy company--pulling down a fee of $350,000 plus expenses for a 6 month contract for his efforts, with a provision for extensions.*

Then, there is Kelly Anne&#039;s 15 year old (from some of her pictures looking way too sexualized for her age) apparently very spoiled, anti-Trump, pro-radical Left daughter Claudia, who is very publicly, all over social media, moaning and blubbering about how her mother is a “sociopath” who has “ruined her life,” how she wants to intern for AOC, and how she wants to be “emancipated.” (It looks like Leftists on the Internet have gotten to Claudia, dumped a whole lotta propaganda on her, radicalized, and “turned” her.) **

Kelly Ann has been a fierce and omnipresent defender of President Trump, has --no doubt--routinely put in some insane hours, and has often looked haggard as a result. 

So, it is probably and unfortunately true that her family has born the brunt of her schedule.  That is apparently just the price you often have to pay, if you want to work in one of these high powered White House positions. 

So, yeah, I guess it really is time for Kelly Ann to “spend more time with her family,” and see if she can somehow straighten things out. 

https://bongino.com/lincoln-project-co-founder-registered-as-foreign-agent-of-russia

**  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636493/Kellyanne-Conways-15-year-old-daughter-Claudia-wants-work-AOC.html and also   https://www.dailydot.com/debug/claudia-conway-tiktok-kellyanne-sociopath/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been the case for several years now, President Trump and his Administration are being attacked from all sides.</p>
<p>The latest casualty?  </p>
<p>Long serving Kelly Ann Conway, who has just announced that she is leaving her White House position as Senior Counselor to the President at the end of this month, to “spend more time with my family.”</p>
<p>This phrase is usually just an excuse&#8211;usually a fiction to cover up some other reason but, in this case, it looks like it may well be true.</p>
<p>First, there is her husband George, who for years—despite Kelly Anne&#8217;s very prominent position in the Trump Administration and the White House&#8211;has been a very public and vocal critic of the President.  Ol&#8217; porcine George is also stepping down from his position as one of the co-founders of the anti-Trump “Lincoln Project.” </p>
<p>This just as the news has surfaced that John Weaver, another of that organization&#8217;s co-founders, has just reportedly registered with the DOJ as a Foreign Agent, and will lobby Congress for Tenam Corp, a subsidiary of Russatom, the Russian State owned energy company&#8211;pulling down a fee of $350,000 plus expenses for a 6 month contract for his efforts, with a provision for extensions.*</p>
<p>Then, there is Kelly Anne&#8217;s 15 year old (from some of her pictures looking way too sexualized for her age) apparently very spoiled, anti-Trump, pro-radical Left daughter Claudia, who is very publicly, all over social media, moaning and blubbering about how her mother is a “sociopath” who has “ruined her life,” how she wants to intern for AOC, and how she wants to be “emancipated.” (It looks like Leftists on the Internet have gotten to Claudia, dumped a whole lotta propaganda on her, radicalized, and “turned” her.) **</p>
<p>Kelly Ann has been a fierce and omnipresent defender of President Trump, has &#8211;no doubt&#8211;routinely put in some insane hours, and has often looked haggard as a result. </p>
<p>So, it is probably and unfortunately true that her family has born the brunt of her schedule.  That is apparently just the price you often have to pay, if you want to work in one of these high powered White House positions. </p>
<p>So, yeah, I guess it really is time for Kelly Ann to “spend more time with her family,” and see if she can somehow straighten things out. </p>
<p><a href="https://bongino.com/lincoln-project-co-founder-registered-as-foreign-agent-of-russia" rel="nofollow ugc">https://bongino.com/lincoln-project-co-founder-registered-as-foreign-agent-of-russia</a></p>
<p>**  <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636493/Kellyanne-Conways-15-year-old-daughter-Claudia-wants-work-AOC.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636493/Kellyanne-Conways-15-year-old-daughter-Claudia-wants-work-AOC.html</a> and also   <a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/claudia-conway-tiktok-kellyanne-sociopath/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailydot.com/debug/claudia-conway-tiktok-kellyanne-sociopath/</a></p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a hard time understand what&#039;s so likeable about biden, even when i was a registered democrat back in the day in my 20s i thought he was an arrogant smug who had one of the most punchable face in DC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time understand what&#8217;s so likeable about biden, even when i was a registered democrat back in the day in my 20s i thought he was an arrogant smug who had one of the most punchable face in DC.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something terrible is and has been afoot in America. 
Law and order are considered superfluous. 
See yesterday&#039;s events in Kenosha, WI, where a black man resisted arrest, went to his SUV door, opened it and reached under the front seat. At that point a cop shot him. Clearly, to thinking people, the chance of a pistol under the front seat was large. If they had physically restrained him sooner, there would likely have been a lawsuit against the police.

A large arson/looting riot by blacks followed.

None of the news I&#039;ve read on this even mentions race. One has to get it from the videos.

NBA players, all black, are pontificating about political matters, all Leftist multimillionaires. The NBA is in bed with the Chinese Communists for financial reasons.

What does all of this add up to? In a patently non-racist country, blacks (always capitalized by the MSM, while &quot;whites&quot; is always lower case), have become the new elite class despite lower median incomes. Corporate CEOs and their ad agencies see this and act on it, as you know if you watch TV. Brooks Brothers features black models, pretending black men buy their suits. Bon Appetit&#039;s current issue has a one flaming red page ad which reads only &quot;NAACP.org: Donate&quot;. In a cooking magazine! 

The mayor of Kenosha sees this. Democrats know this, have made it happen. 

Some people have become more equal than others. If treated with perceived disfavor, blacks are allowed to riot and loot and burn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something terrible is and has been afoot in America.<br />
Law and order are considered superfluous.<br />
See yesterday&#8217;s events in Kenosha, WI, where a black man resisted arrest, went to his SUV door, opened it and reached under the front seat. At that point a cop shot him. Clearly, to thinking people, the chance of a pistol under the front seat was large. If they had physically restrained him sooner, there would likely have been a lawsuit against the police.</p>
<p>A large arson/looting riot by blacks followed.</p>
<p>None of the news I&#8217;ve read on this even mentions race. One has to get it from the videos.</p>
<p>NBA players, all black, are pontificating about political matters, all Leftist multimillionaires. The NBA is in bed with the Chinese Communists for financial reasons.</p>
<p>What does all of this add up to? In a patently non-racist country, blacks (always capitalized by the MSM, while &#8220;whites&#8221; is always lower case), have become the new elite class despite lower median incomes. Corporate CEOs and their ad agencies see this and act on it, as you know if you watch TV. Brooks Brothers features black models, pretending black men buy their suits. Bon Appetit&#8217;s current issue has a one flaming red page ad which reads only &#8220;NAACP.org: Donate&#8221;. In a cooking magazine! </p>
<p>The mayor of Kenosha sees this. Democrats know this, have made it happen. </p>
<p>Some people have become more equal than others. If treated with perceived disfavor, blacks are allowed to riot and loot and burn.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like Victor Davis Hanson nails it. Totally. And then some.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/23/from-dnc-irony-to-parody/
H/T Powerline blog

Though, as he writes in this masterpiece, the Democrats (and their supporters) will blithely---and threateningly---declare, &quot;OK, we&#039;re hypocrites, we&#039;re liars, we&#039;re deceitful, we&#039;re disgusting, we&#039;re led by a dementia-addled thug, we despise the Constitution and the American people, and we have the partisanly mendacious Media at our backs...all TRUE. BUT WHAT are YOU gonna do about it? There is, in fact, NOTHING you can do about it.&quot;

…and THAT is the campaign in a nutshell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Victor Davis Hanson nails it. Totally. And then some.<br />
<a href="https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/23/from-dnc-irony-to-parody/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/23/from-dnc-irony-to-parody/</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog</p>
<p>Though, as he writes in this masterpiece, the Democrats (and their supporters) will blithely&#8212;and threateningly&#8212;declare, &#8220;OK, we&#8217;re hypocrites, we&#8217;re liars, we&#8217;re deceitful, we&#8217;re disgusting, we&#8217;re led by a dementia-addled thug, we despise the Constitution and the American people, and we have the partisanly mendacious Media at our backs&#8230;all TRUE. BUT WHAT are YOU gonna do about it? There is, in fact, NOTHING you can do about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>…and THAT is the campaign in a nutshell.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Going postal&quot;, continued:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-postal-service-tried-to-swing-the-election-for-hillary-clinton
H/T Instapundit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Going postal&#8221;, continued:<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-postal-service-tried-to-swing-the-election-for-hillary-clinton" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-postal-service-tried-to-swing-the-election-for-hillary-clinton</a><br />
H/T Instapundit</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GRA: yes, that was sarcasm. I thought I had laid it on so heavily that it wouldn&#039;t be mistaken.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRA: yes, that was sarcasm. I thought I had laid it on so heavily that it wouldn&#8217;t be mistaken.</p>
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		By: R.C.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Montage says: &quot;Trump said there are very fine people on both sides and technically there are some friendly conservatives even though some are white nationalists.&quot;

Montage, are you clear about the identity of the 2 &quot;sides&quot; Trump was referencing when he said &quot;very fine people?&quot;

He was referencing &lt;i&gt;those who were debating the propriety of removing statues memorializing Confederate soldiers from public lands&lt;/i&gt;. There are 2 &quot;sides&quot; in that debate: People who think it&#039;s necessary to remove all such statues, and people who think it&#039;s not necessary. Trump was saying that there are &quot;fine people&quot; on both sides of &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; debate.

20% of all African Americans, when polled, do NOT believe it is necessary to remove all statues of Confederate soldiers from public lands.

50% of all Latinos living in the U.S., when polled, do NOT believe it is necessary to remove all statues of Confederate generals from public lands.

Trump was saying that there were &quot;fine people&quot; among those Latinos and those African Americans (as well as some Caucasian, Indian, Asian, etc. people with the same views).

Montage, I don&#039;t know whether or not you hold that the African Americans and Latinos who find Confederate war monuments acceptable &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t possibly&lt;/i&gt; be &quot;fine people,&quot; merely because they hold that view. Maybe you think such views prohibit &quot;fine person status.&quot; In that case, Trump disagrees.

But that&#039;s irrelevant to the larger problem. The &quot;Fine People Hoax&quot; is the hoax wherein Trump&#039;s words are taken out-of-context to refer to an &lt;i&gt;entirely different clash&lt;/i&gt;; namely, the animosity between the 65-or-so remaining white nationalists in the country, and whoever they got into a skirmish with in Charlottesville. By intentionally deceiving the public about which &lt;i&gt;debate&lt;/i&gt; Trump was referencing, the mainstream media sources tricked their viewers into thinking that Trump was calling white nationalists &quot;fine people.&quot; But he didn&#039;t. On the contrary, Trump &lt;i&gt;specifically excluded&lt;/i&gt; such racists from being considered &quot;fine people.&quot; (All one has to do, to see this, is watch the whole speech rather than relying on the decontextualized clips. The people debating statues were &quot;fine people on both sides&quot;; the violent racialists were &quot;horrible.&quot;)

So, Montage, why do you even mention &quot;white nationalists&quot; in the context of the &quot;fine people&quot; remark, when the &quot;fine people&quot; remark had literally nothing to do with white nationalists?

Are you trying to perpetuate the hoax? Or was the juxtaposition mere inadvertence?

It&#039;s important for conservatives to not sink to the level of Leftists, who habitually deny the human dignity of their political opponents, or other inconvenient persons.

But sometimes it&#039;s really difficult constantly having to remind ourselves that, yes, Leftists are people too, made in the image of God, and deserving of all the respect that they persistently deny to the unborn. It&#039;s difficult, because so often they act just like Non-Player Characters following simplistic macros and reciting from a script.

Next time, Montage, please try a little harder to pass a Turing Test.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montage says: &#8220;Trump said there are very fine people on both sides and technically there are some friendly conservatives even though some are white nationalists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Montage, are you clear about the identity of the 2 &#8220;sides&#8221; Trump was referencing when he said &#8220;very fine people?&#8221;</p>
<p>He was referencing <i>those who were debating the propriety of removing statues memorializing Confederate soldiers from public lands</i>. There are 2 &#8220;sides&#8221; in that debate: People who think it&#8217;s necessary to remove all such statues, and people who think it&#8217;s not necessary. Trump was saying that there are &#8220;fine people&#8221; on both sides of <i>that</i> debate.</p>
<p>20% of all African Americans, when polled, do NOT believe it is necessary to remove all statues of Confederate soldiers from public lands.</p>
<p>50% of all Latinos living in the U.S., when polled, do NOT believe it is necessary to remove all statues of Confederate generals from public lands.</p>
<p>Trump was saying that there were &#8220;fine people&#8221; among those Latinos and those African Americans (as well as some Caucasian, Indian, Asian, etc. people with the same views).</p>
<p>Montage, I don&#8217;t know whether or not you hold that the African Americans and Latinos who find Confederate war monuments acceptable <i>can&#8217;t possibly</i> be &#8220;fine people,&#8221; merely because they hold that view. Maybe you think such views prohibit &#8220;fine person status.&#8221; In that case, Trump disagrees.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s irrelevant to the larger problem. The &#8220;Fine People Hoax&#8221; is the hoax wherein Trump&#8217;s words are taken out-of-context to refer to an <i>entirely different clash</i>; namely, the animosity between the 65-or-so remaining white nationalists in the country, and whoever they got into a skirmish with in Charlottesville. By intentionally deceiving the public about which <i>debate</i> Trump was referencing, the mainstream media sources tricked their viewers into thinking that Trump was calling white nationalists &#8220;fine people.&#8221; But he didn&#8217;t. On the contrary, Trump <i>specifically excluded</i> such racists from being considered &#8220;fine people.&#8221; (All one has to do, to see this, is watch the whole speech rather than relying on the decontextualized clips. The people debating statues were &#8220;fine people on both sides&#8221;; the violent racialists were &#8220;horrible.&#8221;)</p>
<p>So, Montage, why do you even mention &#8220;white nationalists&#8221; in the context of the &#8220;fine people&#8221; remark, when the &#8220;fine people&#8221; remark had literally nothing to do with white nationalists?</p>
<p>Are you trying to perpetuate the hoax? Or was the juxtaposition mere inadvertence?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important for conservatives to not sink to the level of Leftists, who habitually deny the human dignity of their political opponents, or other inconvenient persons.</p>
<p>But sometimes it&#8217;s really difficult constantly having to remind ourselves that, yes, Leftists are people too, made in the image of God, and deserving of all the respect that they persistently deny to the unborn. It&#8217;s difficult, because so often they act just like Non-Player Characters following simplistic macros and reciting from a script.</p>
<p>Next time, Montage, please try a little harder to pass a Turing Test.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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I don&#039;t really know much about that...

...but I suspect that the Democrats are about to redefine (or perhaps &quot;fine tune&quot;) the meaning of &quot;going postal&quot;.]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t really know much about that&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but I suspect that the Democrats are about to redefine (or perhaps &#8220;fine tune&#8221;) the meaning of &#8220;going postal&#8221;.</p>
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