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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511754</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[* https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/13/armstrongs-famous-one-small-step-quote-explained/
“The &#039;a&#039; was intended,” Armstrong said. “I thought I said it. I can’t hear it when I listen on the radio reception here on Earth, so I’ll be happy if you just put it in parentheses.”

** https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-man-who-wrote-the-pledge-of-allegiance-93907224/
A good, straight-forward history with only a little bit of snark at the end.
&quot;But it&#039;s ironic that the debate centers on a reference to God that [the author] an ordained minister left out.&quot; -- He probably didn&#039;t think it needed emphasizing in 1892, but then maybe it was deliberate - apparently, nobody asked him.

This post adds some nuance, although I think most of it was cribbed from Wikipedia.
https://www.businessinsider.com/under-god-added-to-pledge-of-allegiance-2014-6?op=1
&quot;Some consider Bellamy a socialist and his creation a criticism of rampant greed and hyper-individuality. &quot; 
-- So maybe his socialism outvoted his clerical training. (See the Wikipedia.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Then, an attorney from Illinois, Louis Bowman, shook the wording up a bit. At a meeting of the Sons of the American Revolution in 1948, he added &quot;under God,&quot; claiming Abraham Lincoln used the same phrase in his Gettysburg Address. Almost all reported transcripts from the speech do include &quot;that the nation shall, under God, have a new birth of freedom.&quot;
...
Finally, the government became involved. In 1953, Louis Rabaut, &lt;b&gt;a democrat from Michigan &lt;/b&gt;sponsored a resolution to add the words &quot;under God&quot; to the Pledge. It failed. But by then, the decision was up to President Dwight D. Eisenhower.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It succeeded on the second try, sponsored by a Republican, and has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

Curious trivia: God was in another popular Pledge before he wasn&#039;t.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

&lt;blockquote&gt;There did exist a previous pledge created by Captain George T. Balch, a veteran of the Civil War, who later became auditor of the New York Board of Education. Balch&#039;s pledge, which was recited contemporaneously with Bellamy&#039;s until the 1923 National Flag Conference, read:

We give our heads and hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one flag!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are some disputes about how and when &quot;God&quot; was admitted into the Balch pledge, which circulated in several versions.
And that &quot;one language&quot; thing is definitely obsolete.

As for the new one -- it was written &quot;to order&quot; for a big celebration. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. &lt;b&gt;As a socialist,&lt;/b&gt; he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity[18] but decided against it, knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.[21]&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* <a href="https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/13/armstrongs-famous-one-small-step-quote-explained/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/13/armstrongs-famous-one-small-step-quote-explained/</a><br />
“The &#8216;a&#8217; was intended,” Armstrong said. “I thought I said it. I can’t hear it when I listen on the radio reception here on Earth, so I’ll be happy if you just put it in parentheses.”</p>
<p>** <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-man-who-wrote-the-pledge-of-allegiance-93907224/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-man-who-wrote-the-pledge-of-allegiance-93907224/</a><br />
A good, straight-forward history with only a little bit of snark at the end.<br />
&#8220;But it&#8217;s ironic that the debate centers on a reference to God that [the author] an ordained minister left out.&#8221; &#8212; He probably didn&#8217;t think it needed emphasizing in 1892, but then maybe it was deliberate &#8211; apparently, nobody asked him.</p>
<p>This post adds some nuance, although I think most of it was cribbed from Wikipedia.<br />
<a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/under-god-added-to-pledge-of-allegiance-2014-6?op=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.businessinsider.com/under-god-added-to-pledge-of-allegiance-2014-6?op=1</a><br />
&#8220;Some consider Bellamy a socialist and his creation a criticism of rampant greed and hyper-individuality. &#8221;<br />
&#8212; So maybe his socialism outvoted his clerical training. (See the Wikipedia.)</p>
<blockquote><p>
Then, an attorney from Illinois, Louis Bowman, shook the wording up a bit. At a meeting of the Sons of the American Revolution in 1948, he added &#8220;under God,&#8221; claiming Abraham Lincoln used the same phrase in his Gettysburg Address. Almost all reported transcripts from the speech do include &#8220;that the nation shall, under God, have a new birth of freedom.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
Finally, the government became involved. In 1953, Louis Rabaut, <b>a democrat from Michigan </b>sponsored a resolution to add the words &#8220;under God&#8221; to the Pledge. It failed. But by then, the decision was up to President Dwight D. Eisenhower.</p></blockquote>
<p>It succeeded on the second try, sponsored by a Republican, and has been upheld by the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Curious trivia: God was in another popular Pledge before he wasn&#8217;t.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance</a></p>
<blockquote><p>There did exist a previous pledge created by Captain George T. Balch, a veteran of the Civil War, who later became auditor of the New York Board of Education. Balch&#8217;s pledge, which was recited contemporaneously with Bellamy&#8217;s until the 1923 National Flag Conference, read:</p>
<p>We give our heads and hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one flag!
</p></blockquote>
<p>There are some disputes about how and when &#8220;God&#8221; was admitted into the Balch pledge, which circulated in several versions.<br />
And that &#8220;one language&#8221; thing is definitely obsolete.</p>
<p>As for the new one &#8212; it was written &#8220;to order&#8221; for a big celebration. </p>
<blockquote><p>
The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. <b>As a socialist,</b> he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity[18] but decided against it, knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.[21]</p></blockquote>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511753</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Convention news from Just the News.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/nearly-70-voters-say-democratic-convention-wont-impact-their-choice
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Conventions are still a big deal to political activists, but they are little noticed by – and have little impact on – the public at large,&quot; Rasmussen said.

He also argued that the last &quot;meaningful&quot; convention occurred in 1980, when Ted Kennedy attempted to change the delegate rules to challenge Jimmy Carter. 

&quot;Another factor is television,&quot; Rasmussen also said. &quot;In the 1960s and &#039;70s, there were only three television networks, and they all covered the conventions as a big deal. Anybody turning on the TV would have noticed. In today’s world, consumers have a virtually unlimited supply of more appealing options on their screens and phones.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Conventions today are just preaching to the choir. 
(As if we were able to go to church and sing these days!)

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/army-investigating-after-uniformed-reservists-appeared-during-democratic
&lt;blockquote&gt;...the reservists were &quot;part of a brief presentation by delegates from American Samoa during the convention’s roll call of states.&quot;

The Army has reportedly indicated that it is checking into the matter.

“Wearing a uniform to a partisan political event like this is prohibited,” Army officials said in a Wednesday statement, according to the outlet. “The Army follows the Department of Defense’s longstanding and well-defined policy regarding political campaigns and elections to avoid the perception of DoD sponsorship, approval or endorsement of any political candidate, campaign or cause.&quot;

Democratic officials on Tuesday said that the intention was to &quot;celebrate American Samoa&#039;s legacy of military service,&quot; according to the Military Times, though the officials did not answer questions about if having the reservists appear broke military rules. 

The outlet said that party spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa on Wednesday described the military members&#039; appearance as &quot;an oversight.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would believe that the reservists didn&#039;t actually know there was a rule against what they did, considering how many high-ranking officers of the regular services don&#039;t seem to consider it a speed-bump on their way to dump Trump.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-theres-never-been-anything-weve-been-able-accomplish-when-weve-done
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There&#039;s never been anything we&#039;ve been able to accomplish when we&#039;ve done it together,&quot; Biden said during his address at the Democratic National Convention.

According to the official transcript that the Democratic National Committee sent out after his speech concluded, Biden was supposed to say, &quot;And there has never been anything we’ve been &lt;b&gt;unable&lt;/b&gt; to accomplish when we&#039;ve done it together.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that was just a normal mis-speak that anyone could have made, even without senile dementia. (&quot;One small step for (a) man...&quot;)*
But it isn&#039;t helping his case.

A lot of information here that DeMedia isn&#039;t telling viewers.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/illegal-immigrant-dnc-video-was-deported-under-clinton-and-re-arrested
&quot;..under Obama&quot; is added in the headline.
And then there was that thing again about children in cages ... without the admission that Obama built that.

https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/watch-under-god-skipped-pledge-allegiance-least-two-democratic-convention-meetings
Once was by a Muslim, which I can understand, since the Eisenhower-era addition** was clearly meant to reference the Judeo-Christian deity (although IIRC Islam supporters in the West make a big deal about how Allah is just another name for the same entity); and once in the DNC LGBTQ Caucus Meeting.

Which I can understand.

I&#039;m somewhat surprised they are saying the Pledge at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convention news from Just the News.<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/nearly-70-voters-say-democratic-convention-wont-impact-their-choice" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/nearly-70-voters-say-democratic-convention-wont-impact-their-choice</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Conventions are still a big deal to political activists, but they are little noticed by – and have little impact on – the public at large,&#8221; Rasmussen said.</p>
<p>He also argued that the last &#8220;meaningful&#8221; convention occurred in 1980, when Ted Kennedy attempted to change the delegate rules to challenge Jimmy Carter. </p>
<p>&#8220;Another factor is television,&#8221; Rasmussen also said. &#8220;In the 1960s and &#8217;70s, there were only three television networks, and they all covered the conventions as a big deal. Anybody turning on the TV would have noticed. In today’s world, consumers have a virtually unlimited supply of more appealing options on their screens and phones.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>Conventions today are just preaching to the choir.<br />
(As if we were able to go to church and sing these days!)</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/army-investigating-after-uniformed-reservists-appeared-during-democratic" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/army-investigating-after-uniformed-reservists-appeared-during-democratic</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;the reservists were &#8220;part of a brief presentation by delegates from American Samoa during the convention’s roll call of states.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Army has reportedly indicated that it is checking into the matter.</p>
<p>“Wearing a uniform to a partisan political event like this is prohibited,” Army officials said in a Wednesday statement, according to the outlet. “The Army follows the Department of Defense’s longstanding and well-defined policy regarding political campaigns and elections to avoid the perception of DoD sponsorship, approval or endorsement of any political candidate, campaign or cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democratic officials on Tuesday said that the intention was to &#8220;celebrate American Samoa&#8217;s legacy of military service,&#8221; according to the Military Times, though the officials did not answer questions about if having the reservists appear broke military rules. </p>
<p>The outlet said that party spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa on Wednesday described the military members&#8217; appearance as &#8220;an oversight.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>I would believe that the reservists didn&#8217;t actually know there was a rule against what they did, considering how many high-ranking officers of the regular services don&#8217;t seem to consider it a speed-bump on their way to dump Trump.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-theres-never-been-anything-weve-been-able-accomplish-when-weve-done" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-theres-never-been-anything-weve-been-able-accomplish-when-weve-done</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s never been anything we&#8217;ve been able to accomplish when we&#8217;ve done it together,&#8221; Biden said during his address at the Democratic National Convention.</p>
<p>According to the official transcript that the Democratic National Committee sent out after his speech concluded, Biden was supposed to say, &#8220;And there has never been anything we’ve been <b>unable</b> to accomplish when we&#8217;ve done it together.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that was just a normal mis-speak that anyone could have made, even without senile dementia. (&#8220;One small step for (a) man&#8230;&#8221;)*<br />
But it isn&#8217;t helping his case.</p>
<p>A lot of information here that DeMedia isn&#8217;t telling viewers.<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/illegal-immigrant-dnc-video-was-deported-under-clinton-and-re-arrested" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/illegal-immigrant-dnc-video-was-deported-under-clinton-and-re-arrested</a><br />
&#8220;..under Obama&#8221; is added in the headline.<br />
And then there was that thing again about children in cages &#8230; without the admission that Obama built that.</p>
<p><a href="https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/watch-under-god-skipped-pledge-allegiance-least-two-democratic-convention-meetings" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/watch-under-god-skipped-pledge-allegiance-least-two-democratic-convention-meetings</a><br />
Once was by a Muslim, which I can understand, since the Eisenhower-era addition** was clearly meant to reference the Judeo-Christian deity (although IIRC Islam supporters in the West make a big deal about how Allah is just another name for the same entity); and once in the DNC LGBTQ Caucus Meeting.</p>
<p>Which I can understand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m somewhat surprised they are saying the Pledge at all.</p>
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		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511747</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 04:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Parker, on “Most people have made up their minds.”

In case anyone knows someone who hasn&#039;t yet decided who NOT to vote for (because they aren&#039;t the ones who are already enthused about voting FOR one of the parties), send them this post by Doc Zero.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1296055068928737280.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;What a contrast to see the Dems march out their hideous foreign policy failures - never forget the path to 9/11 ran under Bill Clinton&#039;s desk and he helped China declare war on the free world - at the moment Trump is bringing an &quot;impossible&quot; realignment to the Middle East. 

And for an added bonus, the Dems have recruited the GOP&#039;s worst foreign policy failures to endorse their joke candidate! No one pushing Biden is capable of even UNDERSTANDING what Trump is achieving in foreign policy, let alone duplicating it. 

Bill Clinton and his ilk sold the free world out to China for campaign cash and big money for their rich globalist friends. They never even understood what game they were playing, and they didn&#039;t WANT to understand. They, and the neocons, get us into wars by throwing tantrums. 

&lt;b&gt;Foreign policy might not be a big mover in most presidential elections, but it really should be in this one. It&#039;s tied inextricably to how the candidates view the American people and our place in the world. It tells you that a candidate understands the game and plays to win. &lt;/b&gt;

For FAR too many years, we&#039;ve been tricked into ignoring Democrats - and too many Republicans - as they actively played for other teams, driven by blind greed, absolute folly, and an ideology that tells them America and its people are the source of all evil in the world. 

You can tell how bad it had gotten because when Donald Trump said &quot;America First,&quot; it was treated as heresy, blasphemy, bigotry, nativism, blah blah blah. &lt;b&gt;The notion of acting in America&#039;s interests was considered radicalism by the Beltway establishment. &lt;/b&gt;

Look at the abject failures Democrats are parading around at their convention and understand: &lt;b&gt;if they don&#039;t play 100 percent on Team America in foreign policy, why on Earth would you think they really give a damn about you when it comes to domestic policy? &lt;/b&gt;

These are people who think American strategic, technological, economic, and cultural influence is evil. OF COURSE they acted to take all of that away, lining their own pockets in the process. Their foreign policy is all about submission, payoffs, promises to weaken America. 

Why would anyone think Democrats would suddenly start loving the American people, valuing our strength, or feeling some sense of duty and loyalty to us during the walk from the State Dept. to the White House? They bring the same ideology and assumptions with them. 

&lt;b&gt;Democrats, and the absurd GOP leftovers endorsing them, show you who they really are when they handle foreign policy, because they think you aren&#039;t looking. &lt;/b&gt;They&#039;re among their friends, the globalist elite. They love playing Citizen of the World. Their tongues loosen up. 

Meanwhile, Trump the buffoonish outsider is delivering foreign policy miracles the Dems and RINOs said were impossible, just like he delivered an economy they said was impossible until the coronavirus struck. &lt;b&gt;He knows what team he&#039;s on and he plays to win. That&#039;s his big secret. 

Trump doesn&#039;t play flawlessly, but at least he grasps the rules and objectives better than anyone &lt;/b&gt;bloviating at the Dem convention. It would be nice if he had more help from the Seasoned Old Hands instead of having to fend off constant mutinies from them. /end 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Parker, on “Most people have made up their minds.”</p>
<p>In case anyone knows someone who hasn&#8217;t yet decided who NOT to vote for (because they aren&#8217;t the ones who are already enthused about voting FOR one of the parties), send them this post by Doc Zero.</p>
<p><a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1296055068928737280.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1296055068928737280.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>What a contrast to see the Dems march out their hideous foreign policy failures &#8211; never forget the path to 9/11 ran under Bill Clinton&#8217;s desk and he helped China declare war on the free world &#8211; at the moment Trump is bringing an &#8220;impossible&#8221; realignment to the Middle East. </p>
<p>And for an added bonus, the Dems have recruited the GOP&#8217;s worst foreign policy failures to endorse their joke candidate! No one pushing Biden is capable of even UNDERSTANDING what Trump is achieving in foreign policy, let alone duplicating it. </p>
<p>Bill Clinton and his ilk sold the free world out to China for campaign cash and big money for their rich globalist friends. They never even understood what game they were playing, and they didn&#8217;t WANT to understand. They, and the neocons, get us into wars by throwing tantrums. </p>
<p><b>Foreign policy might not be a big mover in most presidential elections, but it really should be in this one. It&#8217;s tied inextricably to how the candidates view the American people and our place in the world. It tells you that a candidate understands the game and plays to win. </b></p>
<p>For FAR too many years, we&#8217;ve been tricked into ignoring Democrats &#8211; and too many Republicans &#8211; as they actively played for other teams, driven by blind greed, absolute folly, and an ideology that tells them America and its people are the source of all evil in the world. </p>
<p>You can tell how bad it had gotten because when Donald Trump said &#8220;America First,&#8221; it was treated as heresy, blasphemy, bigotry, nativism, blah blah blah. <b>The notion of acting in America&#8217;s interests was considered radicalism by the Beltway establishment. </b></p>
<p>Look at the abject failures Democrats are parading around at their convention and understand: <b>if they don&#8217;t play 100 percent on Team America in foreign policy, why on Earth would you think they really give a damn about you when it comes to domestic policy? </b></p>
<p>These are people who think American strategic, technological, economic, and cultural influence is evil. OF COURSE they acted to take all of that away, lining their own pockets in the process. Their foreign policy is all about submission, payoffs, promises to weaken America. </p>
<p>Why would anyone think Democrats would suddenly start loving the American people, valuing our strength, or feeling some sense of duty and loyalty to us during the walk from the State Dept. to the White House? They bring the same ideology and assumptions with them. </p>
<p><b>Democrats, and the absurd GOP leftovers endorsing them, show you who they really are when they handle foreign policy, because they think you aren&#8217;t looking. </b>They&#8217;re among their friends, the globalist elite. They love playing Citizen of the World. Their tongues loosen up. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Trump the buffoonish outsider is delivering foreign policy miracles the Dems and RINOs said were impossible, just like he delivered an economy they said was impossible until the coronavirus struck. <b>He knows what team he&#8217;s on and he plays to win. That&#8217;s his big secret. </p>
<p>Trump doesn&#8217;t play flawlessly, but at least he grasps the rules and objectives better than anyone </b>bloviating at the Dem convention. It would be nice if he had more help from the Seasoned Old Hands instead of having to fend off constant mutinies from them. /end
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 04:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe the missing viewers went here.
https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-finds-most-americans-would-rather-jump-into-volcano-of-angry-geese-than-watch-democratic-convention

The media certainly went here.
https://babylonbee.com/news/media-criticizes-trump-for-making-them-tear-the-country-apart

And the Democrats went, not surprisingly, here.
https://babylonbee.com/news/man-who-has-been-in-government-for-48-years-promises-to-fix-government]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the missing viewers went here.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-finds-most-americans-would-rather-jump-into-volcano-of-angry-geese-than-watch-democratic-convention" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-finds-most-americans-would-rather-jump-into-volcano-of-angry-geese-than-watch-democratic-convention</a></p>
<p>The media certainly went here.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/media-criticizes-trump-for-making-them-tear-the-country-apart" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/media-criticizes-trump-for-making-them-tear-the-country-apart</a></p>
<p>And the Democrats went, not surprisingly, here.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/man-who-has-been-in-government-for-48-years-promises-to-fix-government" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/man-who-has-been-in-government-for-48-years-promises-to-fix-government</a></p>
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		By: Avi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 01:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“  He pointed out that opinion in Germany was close to unanimous against the war. By contrast, the US had a lively discussion about Iraq War 2.”

Funny though, the Reichs oil supply lines were protected by American soldiers and taxpayers in Iraq
The US Army should have stopped at the Rhine.
Since Nazism began in western Germany, that region should have suffered the same Soviet retribution as Mittel and Eastern Germany]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“  He pointed out that opinion in Germany was close to unanimous against the war. By contrast, the US had a lively discussion about Iraq War 2.”</p>
<p>Funny though, the Reichs oil supply lines were protected by American soldiers and taxpayers in Iraq<br />
The US Army should have stopped at the Rhine.<br />
Since Nazism began in western Germany, that region should have suffered the same Soviet retribution as Mittel and Eastern Germany</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xylourgos:
&lt;b&gt;Not an easy task to convince my Greek and German friends the benefits of a continued Trump presidency. It is lonely out here!&lt;/b&gt;

It is especially difficult given the tendency to  herd instinct in Germany. I recall reading in my Alumni magazine about one of our students on a junior year abroad in Germany around the time of Iraq War 2. He pointed out that opinion in Germany was close to unanimous against the war. By contrast, the US had a lively discussion about  Iraq War 2.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xylourgos:<br />
<b>Not an easy task to convince my Greek and German friends the benefits of a continued Trump presidency. It is lonely out here!</b></p>
<p>It is especially difficult given the tendency to  herd instinct in Germany. I recall reading in my Alumni magazine about one of our students on a junior year abroad in Germany around the time of Iraq War 2. He pointed out that opinion in Germany was close to unanimous against the war. By contrast, the US had a lively discussion about  Iraq War 2.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xylourgos:
&lt;b&gt;Not an easy task to convince my Greek and German friends the benefits of a continued Trump presidency. It is lonely out here!&lt;/b&gt;

German friends like Herta Däubler-Gmelin? Recall that Herta Däubler-Gmelin had her 15 minutes of fame in 2002 for  comparing George Bush to Hitler, and for calling the US justice system &quot;lousy.&quot;  All too often German criticism of the US is a cover-up for an underlying German misdeed- and so it is with Herta Däubler-Gmelin, whose father&#039;s  signature facilitated transport of Jews to the death camps.

Herta Däubler-Gmelin was born in 1943 in  Slovakia/Slovak Republic, where Hans Gmelin, her jurist  father,  helped dispense Nazi  justice  as the   principal deputy to  Hanns Ludin.  Ludin  was in charge of the  Nazi satellite state of the Slovak Republic. After the war, Ludin was executed for war crimes.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Documentary evidence discussed in an April 25, 2005 article in the Schwäbische Tagblatt indicates that Hans Gmelin was directly involved in the deportation of Slovakian Jews to the Nazi death camps. As author Hans-Joachim Lang notes: 
Whether Eichmann was announcing his arrival [in Bratislava] or railway officials came by to discuss &quot;questions relating to the shipment of Jews&quot; or the Reich Central Security Office was welcoming the Slovak government&#039;s &quot;making available of railway equipment,&quot; initials on the documents always confirmed who had been informed: for example, &quot;Gm&quot; for Gmelin.

An estimated 70,000 Slovakian Jews, representing over three-fourths of the pre-War Jewish population, died in the Nazi camps.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hans Gmelin spent three years in prison after the war. He later spent 20 years as Mayor of Tübingen.

Herta Däubler-Gmelin &#039;s  English language Wikipedia page mentions that she was born in the Slovak Republic in 1943, but  doesn&#039;t inform us why her father was in Slovakia during WW2. Its only  mention of  her father is that he  was mayor of Tübingen from 1954-1974. German language Wikipedia page on Hans Gmelin is comprehensive, though.

I suspect that Herta Däubler-Gmelin&#039;s condemnation of George W. Bush, and her  &quot;lousy&quot; characterization of American justice, were attempts  to show that her Daddy  and Germany weren&#039;t the only guilty parties. Herta Däubler-Gmelin is not responsible for her father&#039;s actions during World War II, but from her criticisms of the US, it appears that she feels some responsibility for her father&#039;s actions during WW2, or that she  resents the punishment meted out to her father. As such, we should dismiss her criticisms of the US.

.&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/1997/do-you-remember-herta-daubler-gmelin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Do You Remember Herta Däubler-Gmelin? - World Politics Review&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xylourgos:<br />
<b>Not an easy task to convince my Greek and German friends the benefits of a continued Trump presidency. It is lonely out here!</b></p>
<p>German friends like Herta Däubler-Gmelin? Recall that Herta Däubler-Gmelin had her 15 minutes of fame in 2002 for  comparing George Bush to Hitler, and for calling the US justice system &#8220;lousy.&#8221;  All too often German criticism of the US is a cover-up for an underlying German misdeed- and so it is with Herta Däubler-Gmelin, whose father&#8217;s  signature facilitated transport of Jews to the death camps.</p>
<p>Herta Däubler-Gmelin was born in 1943 in  Slovakia/Slovak Republic, where Hans Gmelin, her jurist  father,  helped dispense Nazi  justice  as the   principal deputy to  Hanns Ludin.  Ludin  was in charge of the  Nazi satellite state of the Slovak Republic. After the war, Ludin was executed for war crimes.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Documentary evidence discussed in an April 25, 2005 article in the Schwäbische Tagblatt indicates that Hans Gmelin was directly involved in the deportation of Slovakian Jews to the Nazi death camps. As author Hans-Joachim Lang notes:<br />
Whether Eichmann was announcing his arrival [in Bratislava] or railway officials came by to discuss &#8220;questions relating to the shipment of Jews&#8221; or the Reich Central Security Office was welcoming the Slovak government&#8217;s &#8220;making available of railway equipment,&#8221; initials on the documents always confirmed who had been informed: for example, &#8220;Gm&#8221; for Gmelin.</p>
<p>An estimated 70,000 Slovakian Jews, representing over three-fourths of the pre-War Jewish population, died in the Nazi camps.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Hans Gmelin spent three years in prison after the war. He later spent 20 years as Mayor of Tübingen.</p>
<p>Herta Däubler-Gmelin &#8216;s  English language Wikipedia page mentions that she was born in the Slovak Republic in 1943, but  doesn&#8217;t inform us why her father was in Slovakia during WW2. Its only  mention of  her father is that he  was mayor of Tübingen from 1954-1974. German language Wikipedia page on Hans Gmelin is comprehensive, though.</p>
<p>I suspect that Herta Däubler-Gmelin&#8217;s condemnation of George W. Bush, and her  &#8220;lousy&#8221; characterization of American justice, were attempts  to show that her Daddy  and Germany weren&#8217;t the only guilty parties. Herta Däubler-Gmelin is not responsible for her father&#8217;s actions during World War II, but from her criticisms of the US, it appears that she feels some responsibility for her father&#8217;s actions during WW2, or that she  resents the punishment meted out to her father. As such, we should dismiss her criticisms of the US.</p>
<p>.<a href="https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/1997/do-you-remember-herta-daubler-gmelin" rel="nofollow ugc">Do You Remember Herta Däubler-Gmelin? &#8211; World Politics Review</a></p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xylourgos:
&lt;b&gt;Somewhat on topic from the “conservative” German Bild Newspaper in-house columnist....&lt;/b&gt;

German media has the aroma of a  month-old dead fish. Here are 2 examples of lying, shoddy German media reports on the United States, one from 2007 and the other from several years ago.  

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&#038;as_epq=&#038;as_oq=Markus+G%C3%BCnther&#038;as_eq=&#038;as_nlo=&#038;as_nhi=&#038;lr=&#038;cr=&#038;as_qdr=all&#038;as_sitesearch=https%3A%2F%2Fmedienkritik.typepad.com%2F&#038;as_occt=any&#038;safe=images&#038;as_filetype=&#038;tbs=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Markus Günther @ David&#039;s Medienktitik.&lt;/a&gt; The detail is there IF you are interested in learning it.It&#039;s old hat for me.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Der+Spiegel+reporter+fired+for+false+Fergus+Falls+reporting&#038;t=brave&#038;ia=web&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Der Spiegel reporter fired for false Fergus Falls reporting.&lt;/a&gt;

BTW, my late brother-in-law, who emigrated as a child with his family  from Germany after WW2, had a similar opinion of German media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xylourgos:<br />
<b>Somewhat on topic from the “conservative” German Bild Newspaper in-house columnist&#8230;.</b></p>
<p>German media has the aroma of a  month-old dead fish. Here are 2 examples of lying, shoddy German media reports on the United States, one from 2007 and the other from several years ago.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=Markus+G%C3%BCnther&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_nlo=&amp;as_nhi=&amp;lr=&amp;cr=&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;as_sitesearch=https%3A%2F%2Fmedienkritik.typepad.com%2F&amp;as_occt=any&amp;safe=images&amp;as_filetype=&amp;tbs=" rel="nofollow ugc">Markus Günther @ David&#8217;s Medienktitik.</a> The detail is there IF you are interested in learning it.It&#8217;s old hat for me.</p>
<p><a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Der+Spiegel+reporter+fired+for+false+Fergus+Falls+reporting&amp;t=brave&amp;ia=web" rel="nofollow ugc">Der Spiegel reporter fired for false Fergus Falls reporting.</a></p>
<p>BTW, my late brother-in-law, who emigrated as a child with his family  from Germany after WW2, had a similar opinion of German media.</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511651</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Zaphod:
And, the Dems may strive to physically prevent DJT voters from being able to get to the polls (e.g. via antiFa blocking doors), or to stop their votes from being included in the official count (until it&#039;s too late).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zaphod:<br />
And, the Dems may strive to physically prevent DJT voters from being able to get to the polls (e.g. via antiFa blocking doors), or to stop their votes from being included in the official count (until it&#8217;s too late).</p>
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		By: aNanyMouse		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/08/19/viewership-down-for-this-years-democratic-convention/#comment-2511650</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aNanyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Among those who&#039;ve not made up their minds may be Taibbi, whose long recent interview with B. Weinstein is quite worth a look, see https://bernays.substack.com/p/cancel-culture .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among those who&#8217;ve not made up their minds may be Taibbi, whose long recent interview with B. Weinstein is quite worth a look, see <a href="https://bernays.substack.com/p/cancel-culture" rel="nofollow ugc">https://bernays.substack.com/p/cancel-culture</a> .</p>
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