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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--Looking at some of the other videos and the subjects covered on Serpentza&#039;s Youtube channel, it seems to me that some of the things he is covering might not be seen by some as being as &quot;inoffensive&quot; as he described them to be, and are, in fact, critical of some aspects of things in China today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;Looking at some of the other videos and the subjects covered on Serpentza&#8217;s Youtube channel, it seems to me that some of the things he is covering might not be seen by some as being as &#8220;inoffensive&#8221; as he described them to be, and are, in fact, critical of some aspects of things in China today.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, wandering around Youtube and sampling videos on all sorts of topics, I just happened upon the videos put out by someone who goes by the handle of “Serpentza,” and whose videos are followed by 750,000 people.

Serpentza is a white native of South Africa who lived in China for something like 15 years, he apparently has native level fluency in Chinese, is married to a Chinese women and has a newborn daughter, and is someone who has been making and uploading videos about China for a dozen years.

Living in and doing what he admits was deliberately inoffensive, non-political reporting from China, that is, up until a year or so ago, when he and his wife and child had to flee China, because the Chinese Communist Party authorities were waging a campaign of increasing harassment against  him and his wife, and he felt that as a foreign videographer—no matter how studiously inoffensive--he was in increasing danger of being arrested, or perhaps even “disappeared.”

Check out his recent Youtube video with the title, “Is China Our Enemy?”

This is someone who has real experience of China, and not just the kind of academic knowledge that is, quite often, gathered from afar.

Given his expertise, his immersion in Chinese society, and his on the ground experience of living in China, his conclusion that the Communist government of China is our mortal enemy should be listened to, and given great weight, as we consider if China—or rather the Chinese Communist Party--is, indeed, our enemy.  

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_pcpN9iL4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, wandering around Youtube and sampling videos on all sorts of topics, I just happened upon the videos put out by someone who goes by the handle of “Serpentza,” and whose videos are followed by 750,000 people.</p>
<p>Serpentza is a white native of South Africa who lived in China for something like 15 years, he apparently has native level fluency in Chinese, is married to a Chinese women and has a newborn daughter, and is someone who has been making and uploading videos about China for a dozen years.</p>
<p>Living in and doing what he admits was deliberately inoffensive, non-political reporting from China, that is, up until a year or so ago, when he and his wife and child had to flee China, because the Chinese Communist Party authorities were waging a campaign of increasing harassment against  him and his wife, and he felt that as a foreign videographer—no matter how studiously inoffensive&#8211;he was in increasing danger of being arrested, or perhaps even “disappeared.”</p>
<p>Check out his recent Youtube video with the title, “Is China Our Enemy?”</p>
<p>This is someone who has real experience of China, and not just the kind of academic knowledge that is, quite often, gathered from afar.</p>
<p>Given his expertise, his immersion in Chinese society, and his on the ground experience of living in China, his conclusion that the Communist government of China is our mortal enemy should be listened to, and given great weight, as we consider if China—or rather the Chinese Communist Party&#8211;is, indeed, our enemy.  </p>
<p>See <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_pcpN9iL4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_pcpN9iL4</a></p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/04/trump-gives-america-a-history-lesson-at-mount-rushmore/#comment-2504185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 19:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no hesitation in saying that invading Iraq was an absolutely brilliant strategic idea.  (As an aside, it must be remembered that overthrowing Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy, enacted into law in the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.)  A justified invasion and occupation of Iraq with 160,000 &quot;coalition&quot; troops, right at the heart  of the Middle East, right next to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and the Persian Gulf would have solved a great many problems.  However, I could tell that the plan started going south when the massacre of the contractors in Fallujah occurred, and we did nothing.  What should have happened, of course, was that Fallujah should have been surrounded and the elders told to deliver the murderers or be annihilated -- and level the city if they failed to do just that.  That would have cost lives then, but saved many later.  (That was the COIN strategy of one of the few Westerners ever to successfully control the Middle East -- Alexander the Great.)  My foreboding was confirmed when I didn&#039;t see &quot;American Military Government&quot; signs going up all over Iraq.  We&#039;ve done this before, just dust off the old manuals and follow the instructions.

Although I remain convinced that it is America&#039;s duty to &quot;pay any price, meet any hardship, bear any burden, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty,&quot; that view is now tempered with the understanding that has been known to military philosophers throughout human history:  you should never go to war unless unless you are capable of and unequivocally committed to seeing it through to victory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no hesitation in saying that invading Iraq was an absolutely brilliant strategic idea.  (As an aside, it must be remembered that overthrowing Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy, enacted into law in the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.)  A justified invasion and occupation of Iraq with 160,000 &#8220;coalition&#8221; troops, right at the heart  of the Middle East, right next to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and the Persian Gulf would have solved a great many problems.  However, I could tell that the plan started going south when the massacre of the contractors in Fallujah occurred, and we did nothing.  What should have happened, of course, was that Fallujah should have been surrounded and the elders told to deliver the murderers or be annihilated &#8212; and level the city if they failed to do just that.  That would have cost lives then, but saved many later.  (That was the COIN strategy of one of the few Westerners ever to successfully control the Middle East &#8212; Alexander the Great.)  My foreboding was confirmed when I didn&#8217;t see &#8220;American Military Government&#8221; signs going up all over Iraq.  We&#8217;ve done this before, just dust off the old manuals and follow the instructions.</p>
<p>Although I remain convinced that it is America&#8217;s duty to &#8220;pay any price, meet any hardship, bear any burden, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty,&#8221; that view is now tempered with the understanding that has been known to military philosophers throughout human history:  you should never go to war unless unless you are capable of and unequivocally committed to seeing it through to victory.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, &#039;09 &#038; &#039;10...also. Up until BHO&#039;s Retreat and ...See&#039;ya!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, &#8217;09 &amp; &#8217;10&#8230;also. Up until BHO&#8217;s Retreat and &#8230;See&#8217;ya!!</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 15:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ArtDeco: We&#039;re maybe talking across each other. Look for the numbers of American Occupation force deaths in &#039;06, &#039;07, &#039;08 until BHO abandonded what President Bush handed him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArtDeco: We&#8217;re maybe talking across each other. Look for the numbers of American Occupation force deaths in &#8217;06, &#8217;07, &#8217;08 until BHO abandonded what President Bush handed him.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Uuuuummmm… What did I say about Iraq NOW…?! Nuttin’.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re contending that Iraq in 2009 was in fantastic shape and BO ruined everything.  Not true, and not true without qualifications.  


&lt;i&gt;But,it sure as hell isn’t due to Obama. &lt;/i&gt;

I never suggested it was.  I pointed out that you&#039;ve misrepresented Iraq&#039;s condition.  George W. Bush had great success with the surge program, but it still left Iraq in a state where it was suffering about 4,000 civilian deaths per year (heavily concentrated in provinces with a critical mass of Sunni Arabs).  Then everything went south with ISIS, and Iraq experience several years of violence which approached the 2006 peak.  After ISIS was defeated in mid-2017, you&#039;ve had a salutary reduction in violence and if Iraqis are smart and fortunate, that social renorming will continue.  Currently, the civilian death toll is running at about 1,800 per year and the intensity of the violence in the southern and Kurdish provinces is low enough that the pound-for-pound analogue is Ulster during the period running from 1977-99 (IOW, these areas have a terrorism problem, but not a full-blown insurrection).  And, again, Iraq&#039;s electoral institutions are still in place.  (Elections in Iraq are much cleaner and more competitive than they were during the period running from 1922 to 1958).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uuuuummmm… What did I say about Iraq NOW…?! Nuttin’.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re contending that Iraq in 2009 was in fantastic shape and BO ruined everything.  Not true, and not true without qualifications.  </p>
<p><i>But,it sure as hell isn’t due to Obama. </i></p>
<p>I never suggested it was.  I pointed out that you&#8217;ve misrepresented Iraq&#8217;s condition.  George W. Bush had great success with the surge program, but it still left Iraq in a state where it was suffering about 4,000 civilian deaths per year (heavily concentrated in provinces with a critical mass of Sunni Arabs).  Then everything went south with ISIS, and Iraq experience several years of violence which approached the 2006 peak.  After ISIS was defeated in mid-2017, you&#8217;ve had a salutary reduction in violence and if Iraqis are smart and fortunate, that social renorming will continue.  Currently, the civilian death toll is running at about 1,800 per year and the intensity of the violence in the southern and Kurdish provinces is low enough that the pound-for-pound analogue is Ulster during the period running from 1977-99 (IOW, these areas have a terrorism problem, but not a full-blown insurrection).  And, again, Iraq&#8217;s electoral institutions are still in place.  (Elections in Iraq are much cleaner and more competitive than they were during the period running from 1922 to 1958).</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ArtDeco: 
Really...? Seriously...?

Uuuuummmm... What did I say about Iraq NOW...?! Nuttin&#039;. 
But,it sure as hell isn&#039;t due to Obama. The ISIS butchers have been seriously diminished, reduced, bloodied since January 20, 2017. And Iran has been sent a very clear message that there&#039;s no longer a Wimpy Appeasement Fool in the White House. (*Any doubt that the Dems are just drooling to restore wishful thinking and Appeasement to that House?*)

om: Happily, you &#039;Get It&#039;. Thanks for your comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArtDeco:<br />
Really&#8230;? Seriously&#8230;?</p>
<p>Uuuuummmm&#8230; What did I say about Iraq NOW&#8230;?! Nuttin&#8217;.<br />
But,it sure as hell isn&#8217;t due to Obama. The ISIS butchers have been seriously diminished, reduced, bloodied since January 20, 2017. And Iran has been sent a very clear message that there&#8217;s no longer a Wimpy Appeasement Fool in the White House. (*Any doubt that the Dems are just drooling to restore wishful thinking and Appeasement to that House?*)</p>
<p>om: Happily, you &#8216;Get It&#8217;. Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Democrats can be accurately called &quot;Liberal Fascists&quot;, as J. Goldberg, a Never Trumper.  Too bad -- it could become a good name for it, a good phrase, but since he seems to hate Trump so much, Trump supporters won&#039;t use it as much as they could.

I&#039;m wondering if Kanye West will be willing to call the Dems the KKK Party?
If he really does run, seriously, Trump wins easily.  He has to get &quot;on the ballot&quot;, and Libertarians &#038; Greens know how hard that is to do.  But he&#039;s rich and famous and black -- so it might be a lot easier for him.

The racist Dems will hate it.  He can also call the black Dem politicians &quot;Uncle Toms&quot;, supporting the racist KKK party that burns down Black businesses in KKK dominated cities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats can be accurately called &#8220;Liberal Fascists&#8221;, as J. Goldberg, a Never Trumper.  Too bad &#8212; it could become a good name for it, a good phrase, but since he seems to hate Trump so much, Trump supporters won&#8217;t use it as much as they could.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if Kanye West will be willing to call the Dems the KKK Party?<br />
If he really does run, seriously, Trump wins easily.  He has to get &#8220;on the ballot&#8221;, and Libertarians &amp; Greens know how hard that is to do.  But he&#8217;s rich and famous and black &#8212; so it might be a lot easier for him.</p>
<p>The racist Dems will hate it.  He can also call the black Dem politicians &#8220;Uncle Toms&#8221;, supporting the racist KKK party that burns down Black businesses in KKK dominated cities.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 05:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, since Vox showed up in the diet post, I thought I would see what they thought of Trump&#039;s speech.  You will be shocked to learn they didn&#039;t like it.
What most interested me, aside for the familiar boiler-plate spin, was the actual refinition of &quot;fascist&quot; to make their point that Trump was a meaning going after, um, non-fascist elements of the Left.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/5/21313762/trump-mount-rushmore-speech-independence-day

&lt;blockquote&gt;It should be noted that Trump’s claims of the existence of “far-left fascism” are fundamentally incoherent: Fascism is a right-wing form of ultranationalism calling for a rebirth of a nation or race, and has nothing to do with liberal and left-wing calls for an end to police brutality and racism. But that didn’t stop Trump from making it the central message of his speeches, which aimed to sensationalize the issue of protests and statue-toppling.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That comes straight out of Wikipedia, also not a surprise these day.
But notice what Vox clipped at the end of the definition.

&quot;Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by &lt;b&gt;dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy &lt;/b&gt;which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, since Vox showed up in the diet post, I thought I would see what they thought of Trump&#8217;s speech.  You will be shocked to learn they didn&#8217;t like it.<br />
What most interested me, aside for the familiar boiler-plate spin, was the actual refinition of &#8220;fascist&#8221; to make their point that Trump was a meaning going after, um, non-fascist elements of the Left.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2020/7/5/21313762/trump-mount-rushmore-speech-independence-day" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vox.com/2020/7/5/21313762/trump-mount-rushmore-speech-independence-day</a></p>
<blockquote><p>It should be noted that Trump’s claims of the existence of “far-left fascism” are fundamentally incoherent: Fascism is a right-wing form of ultranationalism calling for a rebirth of a nation or race, and has nothing to do with liberal and left-wing calls for an end to police brutality and racism. But that didn’t stop Trump from making it the central message of his speeches, which aimed to sensationalize the issue of protests and statue-toppling.
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<p>That comes straight out of Wikipedia, also not a surprise these day.<br />
But notice what Vox clipped at the end of the definition.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by <b>dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy </b>which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 05:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;An interesting example of reliance on experts&quot; - David Foster

So, experts in the old days are no better than experts today?
&quot;But it&#039;s the very best model,&quot; cried the Disease Establishment, ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

A certain amount of silo-age (and not a little silage) seems to be involved, or as it&#039;s sometimes called, the hammer-nail mindset.

IIRC, WWI was stumbled into in much the say way, by generals and politicians who couldn&#039;t look outside their own narrow interests or fields of expertise.
&quot;We&#039;ve already started the mobilization, we can&#039;t stop it now!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An interesting example of reliance on experts&#8221; &#8211; David Foster</p>
<p>So, experts in the old days are no better than experts today?<br />
&#8220;But it&#8217;s the very best model,&#8221; cried the Disease Establishment, ignoring any evidence to the contrary.</p>
<p>A certain amount of silo-age (and not a little silage) seems to be involved, or as it&#8217;s sometimes called, the hammer-nail mindset.</p>
<p>IIRC, WWI was stumbled into in much the say way, by generals and politicians who couldn&#8217;t look outside their own narrow interests or fields of expertise.<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ve already started the mobilization, we can&#8217;t stop it now!&#8221;</p>
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