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		By: huxley		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Now, British historian David Starkey gets cancelled as “racist” for finding that slavery is not the genocidal equivalent of the 20th century holocaust&lt;/i&gt;

T J: Toni Morrison dedicated her Pulitzer-winning novel, &quot;Beloved,&quot; to the &quot;Sixty million or more&quot; blacks who died in the slave trade to the Americans.

Sixty million just happens to be ten times the conventional number, six million, of Jews who died in the Holocaust.

The current Encyclopedia Britannica article on the transatlantic slave trade offers a slightly lower number, 10-12 million, of total slaves transported and estimates only 15-25% died on the voyage, therefore by those numbers, 1.5-3.0 million died.

Which is horrific of course, but a far cry from sixty million. However, Morrison needed to one-up -- or 10x-up -- the Holocaust, so &quot;Sixty Million or more&quot; it is. Let critic, Stanley Crouch, in the &quot;New Republic&quot; no less, respond:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;For Beloved, above all else, is a blackface holocaust novel.&lt;/b&gt; It seems to have been written in order to enter American slavery into the big-time martyr ratings contest, a contest usually won by references to, and works about, the experience of Jews at the hands of Nazis. &lt;b&gt;As a holocaust novel, it includes disfranchisement, brutal transport, sadistic guards, failed and successful escapes, murder, liberals among the oppressors, a big war, underground cells, separation of family members, losses of loved ones to the violence of the mad order, and characters who, like the Jew in The Pawnbroker, have been made emotionally catatonic by the past.&lt;/b&gt;

That Morrison chose to set the Afro-American experience in the framework of collective tragedy is fine, of course. But she lacks a true sense of the tragic. Such a sense is stark, but it is never simpleminded. For all the memory within this book, including recollections of the trip across the Atlantic and the slave trading in the Caribbean, &lt;b&gt;no one ever recalls how the Africans were captured. That would have complicated matters. It would have demanded that the Africans who raided the villages of their enemies to sell them for guns, drink, and trinkets be included in the equation of injustice, something far too many Afro-Americans are loath to do--including Toni Morrison.&lt;/b&gt; In Beloved Morrison only asks that her readers tally up the sins committed against the darker people and feel sorry for them, not experience the horrors of slavery as they do.

--Stanley Crouch, &quot;Literary Conjure Woman&quot;
http://rvannoy.asp.radford.edu/rvn/444/beloved.htm&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now, British historian David Starkey gets cancelled as “racist” for finding that slavery is not the genocidal equivalent of the 20th century holocaust</i></p>
<p>T J: Toni Morrison dedicated her Pulitzer-winning novel, &#8220;Beloved,&#8221; to the &#8220;Sixty million or more&#8221; blacks who died in the slave trade to the Americans.</p>
<p>Sixty million just happens to be ten times the conventional number, six million, of Jews who died in the Holocaust.</p>
<p>The current Encyclopedia Britannica article on the transatlantic slave trade offers a slightly lower number, 10-12 million, of total slaves transported and estimates only 15-25% died on the voyage, therefore by those numbers, 1.5-3.0 million died.</p>
<p>Which is horrific of course, but a far cry from sixty million. However, Morrison needed to one-up &#8212; or 10x-up &#8212; the Holocaust, so &#8220;Sixty Million or more&#8221; it is. Let critic, Stanley Crouch, in the &#8220;New Republic&#8221; no less, respond:<br />
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<p><i><b>For Beloved, above all else, is a blackface holocaust novel.</b> It seems to have been written in order to enter American slavery into the big-time martyr ratings contest, a contest usually won by references to, and works about, the experience of Jews at the hands of Nazis. <b>As a holocaust novel, it includes disfranchisement, brutal transport, sadistic guards, failed and successful escapes, murder, liberals among the oppressors, a big war, underground cells, separation of family members, losses of loved ones to the violence of the mad order, and characters who, like the Jew in The Pawnbroker, have been made emotionally catatonic by the past.</b></p>
<p>That Morrison chose to set the Afro-American experience in the framework of collective tragedy is fine, of course. But she lacks a true sense of the tragic. Such a sense is stark, but it is never simpleminded. For all the memory within this book, including recollections of the trip across the Atlantic and the slave trading in the Caribbean, <b>no one ever recalls how the Africans were captured. That would have complicated matters. It would have demanded that the Africans who raided the villages of their enemies to sell them for guns, drink, and trinkets be included in the equation of injustice, something far too many Afro-Americans are loath to do&#8211;including Toni Morrison.</b> In Beloved Morrison only asks that her readers tally up the sins committed against the darker people and feel sorry for them, not experience the horrors of slavery as they do.</p>
<p>&#8211;Stanley Crouch, &#8220;Literary Conjure Woman&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://rvannoy.asp.radford.edu/rvn/444/beloved.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://rvannoy.asp.radford.edu/rvn/444/beloved.htm</a></i></p>
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		By: T J		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/01/it-seems-to-me/#comment-2503868</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 06:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now, British historian David Starkey gets cancelled as “racist” for finding that slavery is not the genocidal equivalent of the 20th century holocaust (never mind that black slavery continues in the world, for example). BLM bigots know better than he, we are supposed to agree. (And his interview with Darron Grimes was in my YouTube que).
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/04/the-cancellation-of-david-starkey/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, British historian David Starkey gets cancelled as “racist” for finding that slavery is not the genocidal equivalent of the 20th century holocaust (never mind that black slavery continues in the world, for example). BLM bigots know better than he, we are supposed to agree. (And his interview with Darron Grimes was in my YouTube que).<br />
<a href="https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/04/the-cancellation-of-david-starkey/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/04/the-cancellation-of-david-starkey/</a></p>
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		By: T J		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/01/it-seems-to-me/#comment-2503867</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2020 06:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornflour: I later noticed the same thing, same Bing search search results, too. 

But VDH interview segments on Fox or FNC this year are all gone from YouTube. Plus a variety of recently uploaded lengthy interviews and on topical politics by Victor in the past two months are gone. 

I sent an email to VDH business email address, so that they know. Also, there is the authors own dot com web page for others having trouble. I expect more, weekly, if not monthly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornflour: I later noticed the same thing, same Bing search search results, too. </p>
<p>But VDH interview segments on Fox or FNC this year are all gone from YouTube. Plus a variety of recently uploaded lengthy interviews and on topical politics by Victor in the past two months are gone. </p>
<p>I sent an email to VDH business email address, so that they know. Also, there is the authors own dot com web page for others having trouble. I expect more, weekly, if not monthly.</p>
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		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/01/it-seems-to-me/#comment-2503605</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2020 01:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great short post and to the point!! Good job!]]></description>
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		By: Cornflour		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/01/it-seems-to-me/#comment-2503560</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off-topic reply to a comment by T J
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T J on July 2, 2020 at 6:25 am said:

The Victor Davis Hanson channel (which is different than others interviews of VDH), at YouTube is suddenly empty, and blocked from searching. The Left’s censors at Big Tech are reaching ever deeper, day by day.
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T J:

I was curious about this, so I did a very quick search.  I didn&#039;t find Hanson&#039;s channel with Google, but it was pretty easy with both DuckDuckGo and Bing.

The URL for Hanson&#039;s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChmhPvL6yFpnBVKyabAcmoQ/playlists

Please don&#039;t take this as a defense of YouTube, much less Google.  I hate their policies and practices.  No surprise, I like Hanson, and was worried there was something nefarious afoot.  Maybe just a temporary glitch?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic reply to a comment by T J<br />
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<p>T J on July 2, 2020 at 6:25 am said:</p>
<p>The Victor Davis Hanson channel (which is different than others interviews of VDH), at YouTube is suddenly empty, and blocked from searching. The Left’s censors at Big Tech are reaching ever deeper, day by day.<br />
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<p>T J:</p>
<p>I was curious about this, so I did a very quick search.  I didn&#8217;t find Hanson&#8217;s channel with Google, but it was pretty easy with both DuckDuckGo and Bing.</p>
<p>The URL for Hanson&#8217;s YouTube channel:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChmhPvL6yFpnBVKyabAcmoQ/playlists" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChmhPvL6yFpnBVKyabAcmoQ/playlists</a></p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t take this as a defense of YouTube, much less Google.  I hate their policies and practices.  No surprise, I like Hanson, and was worried there was something nefarious afoot.  Maybe just a temporary glitch?</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 18:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[phyicsguy:

Carlson said don&#039;t vote for them &quot;if&quot;, and I happened to hear him say it.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-gop-voters-demand-three-things&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a quote&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The host called on Republican voters to &quot;demand three things from their candidates. And if they don&#039;t provide them, don&#039;t vote for them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The three things he then listed were &quot;vigorous defense of total equality under the law,&quot; &quot;defend our freedom of speech,&quot; and &quot; never forget that in the end, the Republican Party exists to serve the interests of normal people.&quot;  He doesn&#039;t operationalize what they&#039;d have to do to prove they are defending those things to a person&#039;s satisfaction, either.  But he did say that if they don&#039;t provide those things don&#039;t vote for them. It got my attention immediately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phyicsguy:</p>
<p>Carlson said don&#8217;t vote for them &#8220;if&#8221;, and I happened to hear him say it.  <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-gop-voters-demand-three-things" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a quote</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The host called on Republican voters to &#8220;demand three things from their candidates. And if they don&#8217;t provide them, don&#8217;t vote for them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The three things he then listed were &#8220;vigorous defense of total equality under the law,&#8221; &#8220;defend our freedom of speech,&#8221; and &#8221; never forget that in the end, the Republican Party exists to serve the interests of normal people.&#8221;  He doesn&#8217;t operationalize what they&#8217;d have to do to prove they are defending those things to a person&#8217;s satisfaction, either.  But he did say that if they don&#8217;t provide those things don&#8217;t vote for them. It got my attention immediately.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 18:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

No, I didn&#039;t miss the point of your argument.  I wasn&#039;t meaning to imply that you were saying what I was criticizing, merely that you were discussing the topic and might be interested in what I had to say.  It was really directed mostly at talk I&#039;ve seen at various blogs and in various places from various people (such as Tucker Carlson), not so much here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>No, I didn&#8217;t miss the point of your argument.  I wasn&#8217;t meaning to imply that you were saying what I was criticizing, merely that you were discussing the topic and might be interested in what I had to say.  It was really directed mostly at talk I&#8217;ve seen at various blogs and in various places from various people (such as Tucker Carlson), not so much here.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2020/07/01/it-seems-to-me/#comment-2503533</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 15:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;huxley; physicsguy:

Yes, as we know, the GOP isn’t even close to ideal. So what? Not voting for them brings something much much worse.&lt;/i&gt;

neo: You missed the point of my comment. I was basically shrugging that, OK, the GOP isn&#039;t ideal, but the GOP is still offering Trump as POTUS, who does make a difference. 

I didn&#039;t mention that we should vote for Trump, because I assumed that would be assumed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>huxley; physicsguy:</p>
<p>Yes, as we know, the GOP isn’t even close to ideal. So what? Not voting for them brings something much much worse.</i></p>
<p>neo: You missed the point of my comment. I was basically shrugging that, OK, the GOP isn&#039;t ideal, but the GOP is still offering Trump as POTUS, who does make a difference. </p>
<p>I didn&#039;t mention that we should vote for Trump, because I assumed that would be assumed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Busy with family visiting, but to Neo&#039;s comment, I don&#039;t think Tucker has advocated lately not voting GOP.  He, and I, are advocating the GOP become more fighters than is their usual nature.  I&#039;m still quite disgusted with the GOP, that&#039;s why I&#039;m a registered independent, but I&#039;m certainly not going to stop voting straight GOP ticket. The alternative is tyranny at this point]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busy with family visiting, but to Neo&#8217;s comment, I don&#8217;t think Tucker has advocated lately not voting GOP.  He, and I, are advocating the GOP become more fighters than is their usual nature.  I&#8217;m still quite disgusted with the GOP, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a registered independent, but I&#8217;m certainly not going to stop voting straight GOP ticket. The alternative is tyranny at this point</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, THIS is fun! Clay Co, FL Sheriff says he’ll deputise every lawful gun owner in the county to deal with BLM if they come there and get out of hand:

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Do not mess with this Sheriff

“If you come to Clay County and think for one second we’ll bend our backs for you, you’re sadly mistaken,” he said. “The second you step out from up under the protection of the Constitution, we’ll be waiting on you and give you everything you want: all the publicity, all the pain, all the glamour and glory for all that five minutes will give you.”

Daniels, a black man, has nothing good to say about Black Lives Matter either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/07/02/amazing-florida-sheriff-threatens-to-deputize-all-local-gun-owners-to-put-down-riots-n597418

Multiple LOLs!
And I haven’t even viewed the video at pjmedia yet!

Ya gotta love ‘em good ole Southerners hospitality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, THIS is fun! Clay Co, FL Sheriff says he’ll deputise every lawful gun owner in the county to deal with BLM if they come there and get out of hand:</p>
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Do not mess with this Sheriff</p>
<p>“If you come to Clay County and think for one second we’ll bend our backs for you, you’re sadly mistaken,” he said. “The second you step out from up under the protection of the Constitution, we’ll be waiting on you and give you everything you want: all the publicity, all the pain, all the glamour and glory for all that five minutes will give you.”</p>
<p>Daniels, a black man, has nothing good to say about Black Lives Matter either.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/07/02/amazing-florida-sheriff-threatens-to-deputize-all-local-gun-owners-to-put-down-riots-n597418" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/07/02/amazing-florida-sheriff-threatens-to-deputize-all-local-gun-owners-to-put-down-riots-n597418</a></p>
<p>Multiple LOLs!<br />
And I haven’t even viewed the video at pjmedia yet!</p>
<p>Ya gotta love ‘em good ole Southerners hospitality.</p>
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