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		By: Strange Daze		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Minneapolis: If you liked the riots and burning, you’ll love it when the police leave – you priv&#8230; After all, isn’t looting and stealing just Marx’s “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”? The homeowner’s got the ability to amass the goods, and the thief’s got the need. So hey, why worry about the police? Perhaps Bender wants homeowners to arm themselves and shoot intruders first, ask questions later. After all, if the police won’t or can’t protect the home and the people in it, it’s up to the homeowner. Ah, but I bet a rudimentary police force will be kept in order to arrest those homeowners who use a weapon to defend their paltry little privileged possessions. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Minneapolis: If you liked the riots and burning, you’ll love it when the police leave – you priv&#8230; After all, isn’t looting and stealing just Marx’s “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”? The homeowner’s got the ability to amass the goods, and the thief’s got the need. So hey, why worry about the police? Perhaps Bender wants homeowners to arm themselves and shoot intruders first, ask questions later. After all, if the police won’t or can’t protect the home and the people in it, it’s up to the homeowner. Ah, but I bet a rudimentary police force will be kept in order to arrest those homeowners who use a weapon to defend their paltry little privileged possessions. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrUselessNothing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 19:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;    Camerota asked, “What if, in the middle of the night, my home is broken into? Who do I call?”

    Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender. said, “Yes, I mean, I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors, and myself, too, and I know that that comes from a place of privilege. Because for those of us for whom the system is working, I think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm is done.”&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>    Camerota asked, “What if, in the middle of the night, my home is broken into? Who do I call?”</p>
<p>    Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender. said, “Yes, I mean, I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors, and myself, too, and I know that that comes from a place of privilege. Because for those of us for whom the system is working, I think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm is done.”</b></p>
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		By: GRA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Leftist mindset is quite simple despite them being relatively verbose and many holding advanced degrees in various fields and disciplines. Racism and privilege explains their world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Leftist mindset is quite simple despite them being relatively verbose and many holding advanced degrees in various fields and disciplines. Racism and privilege explains their world.</p>
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		By: D. Cohen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco, by &quot;welfare&quot; I was referring to voting for democrats to ensure the stability of all government benefits, which the poor living in big blue cities depend on regularly, as compared to the off-and-on and random possibility of being badly treated by the police.  As for sheriffs, I&#039;m sure that their police duties in the suburbs and rural areas are less demanding than those of the inner city -- but for sure these sheriffs also care more about doing a good job than if they were appointed.  Might I add that &quot;doing a good job&quot; becomes a much more well-defined term when it translates so directly to &quot;getting re-elected.&quot;  I think the same dynamic could improve the policing of the inner city, even though the job is more difficult.  If it helps, break the city up into multiple police districts, each policed by a different, directly elected sheriff.

Why are big-blue-city police chiefs almost always appointed?  I think that it&#039;s to prevent them from investigating the political corruption of those who appoint them.  The corruption must be blatantly obvious after all these decades of one-party rule.  It would be very tempting for a directly elected sheriff to go after that.  It&#039;s hard to imagine a better spring-board to higher office than putting a bunch of political grifters in jail.

So, in general, the inner-city voters will not &quot;throw the rascals out&quot; because they worry more about their government benefits than their bad and corrupt police forces, and the big blue politicians will not give up their &quot;power of appointment&quot; because they want to stay out of jail. Letting the voters choose their police chiefs directly would break up this corrupt cycle.

If you have a different explanation, I would be interested in hearing it, but it will have to explain why the big blue cities -- almost always -- seem to end up appointing their chiefs of police rather than directly electing them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco, by &#8220;welfare&#8221; I was referring to voting for democrats to ensure the stability of all government benefits, which the poor living in big blue cities depend on regularly, as compared to the off-and-on and random possibility of being badly treated by the police.  As for sheriffs, I&#8217;m sure that their police duties in the suburbs and rural areas are less demanding than those of the inner city &#8212; but for sure these sheriffs also care more about doing a good job than if they were appointed.  Might I add that &#8220;doing a good job&#8221; becomes a much more well-defined term when it translates so directly to &#8220;getting re-elected.&#8221;  I think the same dynamic could improve the policing of the inner city, even though the job is more difficult.  If it helps, break the city up into multiple police districts, each policed by a different, directly elected sheriff.</p>
<p>Why are big-blue-city police chiefs almost always appointed?  I think that it&#8217;s to prevent them from investigating the political corruption of those who appoint them.  The corruption must be blatantly obvious after all these decades of one-party rule.  It would be very tempting for a directly elected sheriff to go after that.  It&#8217;s hard to imagine a better spring-board to higher office than putting a bunch of political grifters in jail.</p>
<p>So, in general, the inner-city voters will not &#8220;throw the rascals out&#8221; because they worry more about their government benefits than their bad and corrupt police forces, and the big blue politicians will not give up their &#8220;power of appointment&#8221; because they want to stay out of jail. Letting the voters choose their police chiefs directly would break up this corrupt cycle.</p>
<p>If you have a different explanation, I would be interested in hearing it, but it will have to explain why the big blue cities &#8212; almost always &#8212; seem to end up appointing their chiefs of police rather than directly electing them.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Why do the mayors, etc., arrange to choose the police chief? After all, if the voters elected a sheriff directly, that’s one less headache for them and everyone benefits from a well-run police force. &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve never noticed the quality of policing was improved by putting it in the hands of an elected official. Sheriffs generally are in charge of local jails, court security and enforcing court orders.  Some are also in charge of police patrols, generally in exurbs, small towns, and rural areas with little violent crime.  Much less challenging that core city policing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why do the mayors, etc., arrange to choose the police chief? After all, if the voters elected a sheriff directly, that’s one less headache for them and everyone benefits from a well-run police force. </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never noticed the quality of policing was improved by putting it in the hands of an elected official. Sheriffs generally are in charge of local jails, court security and enforcing court orders.  Some are also in charge of police patrols, generally in exurbs, small towns, and rural areas with little violent crime.  Much less challenging that core city policing.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Re-elect us and be sure about your welfare checks and we get to run the police, or elect others and suffer the consequences. They vote for welfare because they for sure need the income, and only the relatively unlucky end up involved with the police.&lt;/i&gt;

I think you&#039;ll find very few municipal governments who have much to do with welfare policy apart from the housing authority and shizzy youth employment schemes.  Even in core cities, less than 5% of the households are billeted in public housing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Re-elect us and be sure about your welfare checks and we get to run the police, or elect others and suffer the consequences. They vote for welfare because they for sure need the income, and only the relatively unlucky end up involved with the police.</i></p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find very few municipal governments who have much to do with welfare policy apart from the housing authority and shizzy youth employment schemes.  Even in core cities, less than 5% of the households are billeted in public housing.</p>
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		By: D. Cohen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where I live, the voters directly elect a sheriff who then controls the local police.  If we don&#039;t like their behavior, we can directly elect a new sheriff.

In the big blue cities, the voters elect the mayor, perhaps council members, etc., who consult political VIP&#039;s from the police union, democrat campaign contributors, etc., and then appoint someone as head of the police. If something bad happens, they can blame him and appoint someone else.  The local voters have little to no direct control over who heads up the police.

Why do those same voters keep electing the same politicians when they are unhappy with the police?  The political establishment, speaking very broadly and generally, are always offering them the same poisoned choice: Re-elect us and be sure about your welfare checks and we get to run the police, or elect others and suffer the consequences.  They vote for welfare because they for sure need the income, and only the relatively unlucky end up involved with the police.

Why do the mayors, etc., arrange to choose the police chief?  After all, if the voters elected a sheriff directly, that&#039;s one less headache for them and everyone benefits from a well-run police force.  Ah -- that&#039;s the problem, isn&#039;t it.  A sheriff responsible to no one but the local voters could investigate and convict all the corrupt local politicians, all the way up to the mayor and beyond.  So, there will not be any locally elected sheriffs in those big blue cities until .....?

What those Minnesota blue politicians talking about defunding the police are probably thinking about is actually defunding the police -- so no one will be able to investigate them -- then collecting a last round of gigantic scams from the local budget and getting the hell out of Dodge.  There will be an incredible mess left behind but everyone will have more important things to worry about than local political corruption.

Replace the &quot;defunded&quot; police with locally elected sheriffs, and some good may come out of this mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live, the voters directly elect a sheriff who then controls the local police.  If we don&#8217;t like their behavior, we can directly elect a new sheriff.</p>
<p>In the big blue cities, the voters elect the mayor, perhaps council members, etc., who consult political VIP&#8217;s from the police union, democrat campaign contributors, etc., and then appoint someone as head of the police. If something bad happens, they can blame him and appoint someone else.  The local voters have little to no direct control over who heads up the police.</p>
<p>Why do those same voters keep electing the same politicians when they are unhappy with the police?  The political establishment, speaking very broadly and generally, are always offering them the same poisoned choice: Re-elect us and be sure about your welfare checks and we get to run the police, or elect others and suffer the consequences.  They vote for welfare because they for sure need the income, and only the relatively unlucky end up involved with the police.</p>
<p>Why do the mayors, etc., arrange to choose the police chief?  After all, if the voters elected a sheriff directly, that&#8217;s one less headache for them and everyone benefits from a well-run police force.  Ah &#8212; that&#8217;s the problem, isn&#8217;t it.  A sheriff responsible to no one but the local voters could investigate and convict all the corrupt local politicians, all the way up to the mayor and beyond.  So, there will not be any locally elected sheriffs in those big blue cities until &#8230;..?</p>
<p>What those Minnesota blue politicians talking about defunding the police are probably thinking about is actually defunding the police &#8212; so no one will be able to investigate them &#8212; then collecting a last round of gigantic scams from the local budget and getting the hell out of Dodge.  There will be an incredible mess left behind but everyone will have more important things to worry about than local political corruption.</p>
<p>Replace the &#8220;defunded&#8221; police with locally elected sheriffs, and some good may come out of this mess.</p>
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		By: brinster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where do you think this comes from?
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and &quot;villages&quot; that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. We foster a queer-affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you think this comes from?<br />
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and &#8220;villages&#8221; that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. We foster a queer-affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 13:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After G.W. Bush won in 2004 I attended a Thanksgiving dinner with a mostly progressive-lesbian crowd (my ex- switched teams after we broke up). The meal was good and afterward, over chamomile tea and bidi cigarettes (I made that part up), the guests got to discussing what to do now that America had turned extra-evil and re-elected Bush.

Half declared they were serious about leaving the country. Ireland was the preferred destination, hipper than Canada I guess. But -- you may have heard this story before -- they never did.

My point: &quot;Defunding the police&quot; may sound like a blood oath today but will melt away like a light spring snow on a sunny afternoon when it comes time to do something. A few token budget cuts might be enacted, but nod, nod, wink, wink, restored quietly with hidden bookkeeping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After G.W. Bush won in 2004 I attended a Thanksgiving dinner with a mostly progressive-lesbian crowd (my ex- switched teams after we broke up). The meal was good and afterward, over chamomile tea and bidi cigarettes (I made that part up), the guests got to discussing what to do now that America had turned extra-evil and re-elected Bush.</p>
<p>Half declared they were serious about leaving the country. Ireland was the preferred destination, hipper than Canada I guess. But &#8212; you may have heard this story before &#8212; they never did.</p>
<p>My point: &#8220;Defunding the police&#8221; may sound like a blood oath today but will melt away like a light spring snow on a sunny afternoon when it comes time to do something. A few token budget cuts might be enacted, but nod, nod, wink, wink, restored quietly with hidden bookkeeping.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 13:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth: a leftist acquaintance of mine, in his late &#039;60s, took to Facebook yesterday to sound an alarm about the word &quot;defund&quot; because (1) what &quot;defund&quot; really means is &quot;reform&quot; (2) Trump and all those other wicked right-wingers will wickedly exploit the situation by wickedly claiming that &quot;defund&quot; means &quot;defund.&quot; 

He must be quite alarmed because he had sworn off Facebook some time ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth: a leftist acquaintance of mine, in his late &#8217;60s, took to Facebook yesterday to sound an alarm about the word &#8220;defund&#8221; because (1) what &#8220;defund&#8221; really means is &#8220;reform&#8221; (2) Trump and all those other wicked right-wingers will wickedly exploit the situation by wickedly claiming that &#8220;defund&#8221; means &#8220;defund.&#8221; </p>
<p>He must be quite alarmed because he had sworn off Facebook some time ago.</p>
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